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R300will
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20 months
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Alfanatic said: I believe that IQ tests were designed so that the average result calibrates to a score of 100. So whether or not the national average is 100 depends on how well the calibrating mechanism is designed, when the last calibration happened and of course on what IQ test you use. Ohh i see well i bet if the nation took one now the average wouldn't hit 100 this time around.
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fjord
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6 months
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TheHeretic
68,165 posts
124 months
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fjord said: For the revival! If you are going to resurrect, at least have something to say.
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McWigglebum4th
23,606 posts
73 months
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Just ban people using the roads for leisure activities.
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Fleckers
1,517 posts
70 months
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Just ban people using the roads  some of the tools I saw yesterday they would be safer on the pavements in concrete boots
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bobbo89
355 posts
14 months
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steve j
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97 months
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How on earth can these vests upset people ? If drivers slow thinking it`s the police, that`s fine; not slowing down for horses imho is dangerous and shows lack of respect for other road users. Some of the replies on here are unbelievable !!!!!!!! Drivers with bad attitude should be taken off the road.
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TheHeretic
68,165 posts
124 months
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steve j said: How on earth can these vests upset people ? If drivers slow thinking it`s the police, that`s fine; not slowing down for horses imho is dangerous and shows lack of respect for other road users. Some of the replies on here are unbelievable !!!!!!!! Drivers with bad attitude should be taken off the road. Quick... Type as many exclamation marks so folks know you are serious. It is not the high visibility jackets that are the issue. The issue is intentionally dressing in order to convince others you the police. Just as decking your car to look like a police car is illegal. That is the issue.
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Guam
15,438 posts
137 months
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I did wonder at this when these appeared around the stables the wifes horse is at, even she has one This will be an interesting discussion when she comes back from her hack 
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NWTony
1,570 posts
97 months
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steve j said: How on earth can these vests upset people ? If drivers slow thinking it`s the police, that`s fine; not slowing down for horses imho is dangerous and shows lack of respect for other road users. Some of the replies on here are unbelievable !!!!!!!! Drivers with bad attitude should be taken off the road. Yes, it's unbelievable!!!!!!111elventy!! OMFG
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Ayahuasca
16,065 posts
148 months
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Why are dog owners required to 'bag up' their animal's poo and horse riders are not?
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mph1977
4,810 posts
37 months
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Ayahuasca said: Why are dog owners required to 'bag up' their animal's poo and horse riders are not? because canine poop contains far most nasties than horse poop , what with canines being carnivorous ...
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CoolHands
1,844 posts
64 months
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yea! And cat owners. And disabled.
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Ayahuasca
16,065 posts
148 months
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mph1977 said: Ayahuasca said: Why are dog owners required to 'bag up' their animal's poo and horse riders are not? because canine poop contains far most nasties than horse poop , what with canines being carnivorous ... That can't be the reason, or are vegetarian humans allowed to curl one out on the pavement too?
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audidoody
5,180 posts
125 months
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Why can't they just put "Baby On Board" lettering on their Hi-Viz?
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swerni
19,908 posts
79 months
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It isn't just the horsey people. Seems the power rangers are at it as well. 
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Tannedbaldhead
108 posts
1 month
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There's a lot to be said for impersonating plod. One of the most relaxing and rewarding driving experiences I ever had was being given a white SAAB 9-3 Estate courtesy car while my company car was in having work done. As a surveyor I wear a HiViz jacket or vest while working on site. Keeping it on whilst driving and wearing a white shirt and dark tie completely changed my driving experience. Never before and never since have I seen an overtaking lane clear to let me by, mobile phones disappear and speeders slow down than than the way I did in that SAAB. Loved it.
The moral to that story is people behave themselves while the BiB are around. I know from experience that not everyone passes a horse and rider on the road safely. I know also that a good proportion of the same drivers would do if they were momentarily fooled into thinking they were overtaking a police rider. This gives the rider who imitates plod a statistical advantage of escaping premature death or permanent disability over a rider who doesn't. That being the case the wearing of said offending items is a no brainer.
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Jagmanv12
484 posts
33 months
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mph1977 said: Ayahuasca said: Why are dog owners required to 'bag up' their animal's poo and horse riders are not? because canine poop contains far most nasties than horse poop , what with canines being carnivorous ... But horse poo could be far more dangerous to a motorbike rider if he hits it.
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Fantuzzi
1,429 posts
15 months
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R300will said: Alfanatic said: I believe that IQ tests were designed so that the average result calibrates to a score of 100. So whether or not the national average is 100 depends on how well the calibrating mechanism is designed, when the last calibration happened and of course on what IQ test you use. Ohh i see well i bet if the nation took one now the average wouldn't hit 100 this time around. No, the average is always 100, its around 68percent. pretty sure its 115 plus 11percent, 130 or over 2 percent, 145 plus 0.1 Then the same the other way so 70 to 85 11, lower than 70 2, 55 or below 0.1 130 mensa, 70 is mentally retarded I think.
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AmitG
522 posts
29 months
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TheHeretic said: It is not the high visibility jackets that are the issue. The issue is intentionally dressing in order to convince others you the police. Just as decking your car to look like a police car is illegal. That is the issue. I agree This is not about who has the most right to use the roads, or the etiquette of horse riding. Horse riders have every right to use the roads (within applicable law). So do drivers, cyclists and pedestrians. Car drivers may be greatest in number and have the greatest destructive potential, but they do not have any kind of priority over horse riders. All sides make mistakes. IMHO we all need to get on with each other if we are going to make the best use of the roads. This island isn't getting any less crowded. This issue is solely about intent to impersonate a police officer. To me, it is pretty bloody obvious that the jackets in question are intended to make passing motorists think that the rider is a police officer, and therefore modify their behaviour. This is no different to me sticking POLITE stickers and reflective stripes on my car to get other motorists to clear the fast lane for me. It's equally against the law. High-viz jackets? Yes absolutely. A sensible choice. POLITE written in police uniform font, at police uniform size on a label with police uniform label layout and police uniform colours? Wrong. The more militant parts of the horse-riding community have not helped themselves through their defence of the practice, which at times has bordered on the bizarre. Their initial defence seemed to be that the jackets were not intended to impersonate police jackets at all, and that any similarity to police uniform was entirely coincidental. The latest defence appears to be that police-style jackets are sold by fancy dress shops for parties, and it is therefore perfectly possible that the rider in question is merely on their way to a fancy dress party, and is not intending to impersonate a real police officer. Such juvenile arguments do little to advance their position, and reflect badly on the vast majority of horse riders who just want to use and enjoy the roads like everyone else. As with many things in this country, it started off as a reasoned argument but seems to have descended into class war.
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