RE: PH Fleet: Jaguar XF Diesel S

RE: PH Fleet: Jaguar XF Diesel S

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Clivey

5,110 posts

205 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I'm currently driving a 61-plate Premium Luxury with the non-'S' 240 horsepower version of the engine (it's a courtesy car as some berk reversed into my BMW). I'm Averaging 30 mpg on short journeys around town, which is very impressive given the type of car. It's brilliant, but there are a couple of things that irritate: The automatic 'box and slow throttle response of the diesel engine combine to make junctions and roundabouts "interesting", whereas you can point and shoot the BMW...and after the linear power delivery of the German's straight six petrol, the massive slug of torque, when it does arrive a second or so after planting the throttle, makes progress jerky. See a gap that you have to be quick to exploit = plant foot = nothing, nothing...THUMP! Before settling down as you rejoin the traffic flow. Hmmm. I think the petrols would be smoother here, but at least you can drive from A to B rather than from Esso to Shell. nuts

Matt_c

186 posts

246 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I have a 2012 3.0L diesel XFS. Its only got 1000mls on the clock (3 weeks old), yet I can achieve over 42mpg on a motorway cruise (daily commute is 39mpg). With the 8spd, revs are about 1350rpm at 70mph (roughly). Great car. I like the ride on 20inch wheels too.

tomoleeds

770 posts

187 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Blown2CV said:
dont know how to post a link,have checked,its a 2012, 3.0v6 portfolio,in grey at stratstone Jaguar wakefield, dab radio,reverse camera,heated and cooled seats,loads of extras, its on ebay £23,000

what's a sport? Can you post a link as I'm afraid those numbers don't stack. Those cars probably are 2.2D and not 3.0DS, and i can't imagine they are portfolio like this one.

dasherdiablo1

3,531 posts

222 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I am currently in the market for a motorway munching diesel that I can turn up at clients businesses in and not raise too many eyebrows....

Jaguar do seem to be getting it right and are producing some lovely cars at the mo. But over 50k is big money and I'm not sure I wouldn't rather have an S class 350d and £10k in my back pocket.

Back to back test drives needed me thinks.

Fleckers

2,861 posts

202 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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good write up

i have a december 2007 s type but to be honest I am still not a fan of the XF which is why I still have the S type, but the XF estate is looking good to me, just want a year or 18 monther to come up

so looks like the S type will stay for anouther 20 or so months

tommy vercetti

11,489 posts

164 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Great looking car.

k15tox

1,680 posts

182 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Matt_c said:
I have a 2012 3.0L diesel XFS. Its only got 1000mls on the clock (3 weeks old), yet I can achieve over 42mpg on a motorway cruise (daily commute is 39mpg). With the 8spd, revs are about 1350rpm at 70mph (roughly). Great car. I like the ride on 20inch wheels too.
Bloody hell and i thought my old Monaro was tall geared!

lotus116tornado

312 posts

153 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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tomoleeds said:
Blown2CV said:
dont know how to post a link,have checked,its a 2012, 3.0v6 portfolio,in grey at stratstone Jaguar wakefield, dab radio,reverse camera,heated and cooled seats,loads of extras, its on ebay £23,000

what's a sport? Can you post a link as I'm afraid those numbers don't stack. Those cars probably are 2.2D and not 3.0DS, and i can't imagine they are portfolio like this one.
The Jaguar dealer in Wakefield is not Stratstone and this car is not available. You would pay £20,000 more for this car as a used buy at this spec.

Pip1968

1,348 posts

205 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Any clever photographer have a picture of the night time cabin illumination?

Pip

Blown2CV

28,852 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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tomoleeds said:
Blown2CV said:
dont know how to post a link,have checked,its a 2012, 3.0v6 portfolio,in grey at stratstone Jaguar wakefield, dab radio,reverse camera,heated and cooled seats,loads of extras, its on ebay £23,000

what's a sport? Can you post a link as I'm afraid those numbers don't stack. Those cars probably are 2.2D and not 3.0DS, and i can't imagine they are portfolio like this one.
clearly a mistake in the ad. It isn't a 2012 model its 2009, looking at the reg, body and spec. It has nearly 60k miles on it. Not going to have done that in 2 months is it?

Blown2CV

28,852 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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lotus116tornado said:
tomoleeds said:
Blown2CV said:
dont know how to post a link,have checked,its a 2012, 3.0v6 portfolio,in grey at stratstone Jaguar wakefield, dab radio,reverse camera,heated and cooled seats,loads of extras, its on ebay £23,000

what's a sport? Can you post a link as I'm afraid those numbers don't stack. Those cars probably are 2.2D and not 3.0DS, and i can't imagine they are portfolio like this one.
The Jaguar dealer in Wakefield is not Stratstone and this car is not available. You would pay £20,000 more for this car as a used buy at this spec.
it's hatfields

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2012-09-Jaguar-XF-3-0-V6...

2010 model portfolios are c. £29k at main dealer. 2012 are mid £30k's

tomoleeds

770 posts

187 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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lotus116tornado said:
The Jaguar dealer in Wakefield is not Stratstone and this car is not available. You would pay £20,000 more for this car as a used buy at this spec.
sorry its hatfields Jaguar wakefield, 3.0 v6 sport,Portfollio, in grey, all the extras £23,000 on Ebay, just type, xf s to find it,you can do it by the year

confused_buyer

6,624 posts

182 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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No experience of how it works in a Jag but The iPhone is probably cutting out because it is switching to Bluetooth for the audio which all iPhones seem to default to if available.

You need to go into "Playing music", press the little "eject" button and it should give you the option of Bluetooth or Dock Connector and you need to select the latter and it should be heard again.

It is an annoying design fault of the iPhone and as far as I can tell you have to do it everytime you plug it into a bluetooth enabled car which uses the dock connector for audio.

Blown2CV

28,852 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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tomoleeds said:
lotus116tornado said:
The Jaguar dealer in Wakefield is not Stratstone and this car is not available. You would pay £20,000 more for this car as a used buy at this spec.
sorry its hatfields Jaguar wakefield, 3.0 v6 sport,Portfollio, in grey, all the extras £23,000 on Ebay, just type, xf s to find it,you can do it by the year
did you not read what i wrote above? It's a 2008/2009 model on an 09 plate, and the ad is a mistake. Clearly you mentioned this car to prove a point; but there is no point to prove because the ad is wrong. It is possible to see by the front end of the car and the mileage that it is not a 2012 car. I wouldn't want people reading the write-up and the comments and thinking based on what you have said that one of these would drop £25k in value in a car within a handful of months. In any case I don't think people in their right mind would think that, and I am not trying to lambast you for not knowing, but just be aware that you can't get a 2012 car for £23k, or anything like - you'd be looking at an extra £12-15k.

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Clivey said:
I'm currently driving a 61-plate Premium Luxury with the non-'S' 240 horsepower version of the engine (it's a courtesy car as some berk reversed into my BMW). I'm Averaging 30 mpg on short journeys around town, which is very impressive given the type of car. It's brilliant, but there are a couple of things that irritate: The automatic 'box and slow throttle response of the diesel engine combine to make junctions and roundabouts "interesting", whereas you can point and shoot the BMW...and after the linear power delivery of the German's straight six petrol, the massive slug of torque, when it does arrive a second or so after planting the throttle, makes progress jerky. See a gap that you have to be quick to exploit = plant foot = nothing, nothing...THUMP! Before settling down as you rejoin the traffic flow. Hmmm. I think the petrols would be smoother here, but at least you can drive from A to B rather than from Esso to Shell. nuts
Evidently not found "Dynamic" Mode. Sharpens throttle and transmission response. Another 240PS owner - more than quick enough off the mark, and 40+mpg when it gets it's legs stretched. Europe bashing is a doddle in it. Best bit - it isn't an Audi.

Blown2CV

28,852 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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i would also say the bowers and wilkins stereo is interesting... it isn't mega loud as such, but the bass is ridiculous! It's like being in Ali G's renault 5. There's a sub on the dash and even though I am technically younger than their loyal customer-base average, I have to turn the bass right down. Weird idea. I would settle for something that focuses on balance and clarity across the range, rather than gut rumbling bottom end.

Clivey

5,110 posts

205 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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FWDRacer said:
Evidently not found "Dynamic" Mode. Sharpens throttle and transmission response. Another 240PS owner - more than quick enough off the mark, and 40+mpg when it gets it's legs stretched. Europe bashing is a doddle in it. Best bit - it isn't an Audi.
I've found Dynamic Mode, and tried with the car in Sport mode as well. If you manually select 1st it helps (although as the turbos cut in you get a spike of torque which means wheelspin on greasy roads) but there's still a delay between pressing the throttle and anything happening. The Drive by Wire throttle + turbo diesel + auto 'box are the culprits. I can accelerate from standstill much quicker in my petrol manual BMW. This is just a minor point though - it's a fabulous saloon biggrin.

tomoleeds

770 posts

187 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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Blown2CV said:
did you not read what i wrote above? It's a 2008/2009 model on an 09 plate, and the ad is a mistake. Clearly you mentioned this car to prove a point; but there is no point to prove because the ad is wrong. It is possible to see by the front end of the car and the mileage that it is not a 2012 car. I wouldn't want people reading the write-up and the comments and thinking based on what you have said that one of these would drop £25k in value in a car within a handful of months. In any case I don't think people in their right mind would think that, and I am not trying to lambast you for not knowing, but just be aware that you can't get a 2012 car for £23k, or anything like - you'd be looking at an extra £12-15k.
sorry did not realise they had put the wrong year on the ad,but as you have stated a 2012 model can be had for
£33k its still a drop of nearly £20k on a current 2012 model,sounds a lot to me

legalknievel

352 posts

198 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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It took me a while to remember Whisper from Live and Let Die. Definitely the coolest obscure reference I've read in a (fairly exciting, admittedly) repmobile write up!

Blown2CV

28,852 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th May 2012
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tomoleeds said:
Blown2CV said:
did you not read what i wrote above? It's a 2008/2009 model on an 09 plate, and the ad is a mistake. Clearly you mentioned this car to prove a point; but there is no point to prove because the ad is wrong. It is possible to see by the front end of the car and the mileage that it is not a 2012 car. I wouldn't want people reading the write-up and the comments and thinking based on what you have said that one of these would drop £25k in value in a car within a handful of months. In any case I don't think people in their right mind would think that, and I am not trying to lambast you for not knowing, but just be aware that you can't get a 2012 car for £23k, or anything like - you'd be looking at an extra £12-15k.
sorry did not realise they had put the wrong year on the ad,but as you have stated a 2012 model can be had for
£33k its still a drop of nearly £20k on a current 2012 model,sounds a lot to me
actually i said anything like it is at least that. The cheapest 2012 portfolio on trader is £38,800 and that isn't even an 'S' engine. Cheapest 'S' is £39995. After checking drive the deal, apparently they can be had new for £42,671 on the road. Considering the drop is more like £2k than £20k I think this is a non-topic.