RE: Blood Brothers: Mini Coupe JCW vs Peugeot RCZ

[va1o]

Nice enough cars but are they really better than a TT or Scirocco? VAG have that market category pretty much nailed.

[Skater12]

ajprice said:

Skater12 said:

ajprice said:

I'd never vote for the Mini, the only thing against the RCZ for me is the Ugly Betty mouth. Can't they put the new Peugeot front end onto it?

Peugeot do a range of options, including different front grills, just so you know ;-)

I know, I meant the shape, not a choice between black trims and silver or chrome trims.

Ah i see, so you mean you'd prefer the new shape front, like the one below?

[buzzer]

doogz said:

LOL at "Aldi TT"

You're so very witty, dragging that same 'pun' out, again and again...

But I added a bit about the Lidl Coupe....

[Skater12]

doogz said:

va1o said:

Nice enough cars but are they really better than a TT or Scirocco? VAG have that market category pretty much nailed.

IME, the MINI is a much better drive than either of the above.

I agree, the Mini is the best drive out of the TT, Scirocco and RCZ. Shame it's just bloody ugly !

Fatima Whitbread is a very good athlete, but aesthetically......... ?

[williredale]

I think the RCZ is a much better looking car. The mini looks better in the metal than it does in some of the pictures but it still loses to the Peugeot.

[jimbro1000]

While I agree with the (so far) general consensus that the RCZ is the better looking of the two and possibly genuinely in the good looking department when it comes to cars - and that the mini looks like it grew-up living in the bell tower of notre dame - I have to question the flip side of this story.

How many here have actually driven an RCZ? I took the trouble to get a test drive when they first appeared thinking I might have found a suitably stylish coupe that stepped outside of the Audi lineup. Initial impressions were good, it is indeed a nice place to spend some time, the cabin is indeed very nice but the whole thing came crashing down on the dynamics. Try and wind it up and you are forced to take a laid-back approach because it simply won't be hurried. A real case of all show and no go.

The biggest hindrance was the gearbox, even my old TVR T5 was slicker, easier and quicker to use. Going from the rather sweet shift of say a Clio or a Megane (as a benchmark) was enough to make me hand the keys back and say "thanks but no thanks".

Now whenever I see them on the road I just laugh inwardly to myself and feel smug in the knowledge that I didn't blow £25k on one...

[fozluvscars]

I'm afraid not for me, but the missus would have either. I bet both are a hoot to drive though

[fozluvscars]

jimbro1000 said:

While I agree with the (so far) general consensus that the RCZ is the better looking of the two and possibly genuinely in the good looking department when it comes to cars - and that the mini looks like it grew-up living in the bell tower of notre dame - I have to question the flip side of this story.

How many here have actually driven an RCZ? I took the trouble to get a test drive when they first appeared thinking I might have found a suitably stylish coupe that stepped outside of the Audi lineup. Initial impressions were good, it is indeed a nice place to spend some time, the cabin is indeed very nice but the whole thing came crashing down on the dynamics. Try and wind it up and you are forced to take a laid-back approach because it simply won't be hurried. A real case of all show and no go.

The biggest hindrance was the gearbox, even my old TVR T5 was slicker, easier and quicker to use. Going from the rather sweet shift of say a Clio or a Megane (as a benchmark) was enough to make me hand the keys back and say "thanks but no thanks".

Now whenever I see them on the road I just laugh inwardly to myself and feel smug in the knowledge that I didn't blow £25k on one...

prob best in diesel guise then

[Skater12]

fozluvscars said:

jimbro1000 said:

While I agree with the (so far) general consensus that the RCZ is the better looking of the two and possibly genuinely in the good looking department when it comes to cars - and that the mini looks like it grew-up living in the bell tower of notre dame - I have to question the flip side of this story.

How many here have actually driven an RCZ? I took the trouble to get a test drive when they first appeared thinking I might have found a suitably stylish coupe that stepped outside of the Audi lineup. Initial impressions were good, it is indeed a nice place to spend some time, the cabin is indeed very nice but the whole thing came crashing down on the dynamics. Try and wind it up and you are forced to take a laid-back approach because it simply won't be hurried. A real case of all show and no go.

The biggest hindrance was the gearbox, even my old TVR T5 was slicker, easier and quicker to use. Going from the rather sweet shift of say a Clio or a Megane (as a benchmark) was enough to make me hand the keys back and say "thanks but no thanks".

Now whenever I see them on the road I just laugh inwardly to myself and feel smug in the knowledge that I didn't blow £25k on one...

prob best in diesel guise then

I like the way the diesel drives more so than the petrol. The torque delivery makes it more fun around town.
Sure, it's never going to win the A-B country lane blast against a mini coupe, TT or scirocco, but then that's not the point of this car. It's about style, while still having enough performance and capability to enjoy in real world scenarios.

[ganser]

The RCZ is a lovely shape - makes the Mini look quite ordinary. I think the front end completely ruins it though

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[georgetuk]

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[lazystudent]

georgetuk said:

RCZ is boring middle management car

It quite clearly isn't

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lazystudent said:

georgetuk said:

RCZ is boring middle management car

It quite clearly isn't

clearly you are right, it not.... its a Hairdressers car

[LuS1fer]

I could sit and look at the RCZ for some time...not so the MINI Monster.

[Zaxxon]

I like the RCZ but was very disapointed with the interior. On my 407 GT coupe the interior is solid and very nicely put together.
I sat in an RCZ at the Wokingham showroom and the interior felt like my wifes Citroen C4, average and cheapish. The seats did not feel as sturdy.
It's a shame cause if they were to make one with a quality interior and a stronger, more potent engine, I would definatley trade in my 407.

[fozzymandeus]

georgetuk said:

So there you go, only 1 out of about 8 girls was for the Porsche. Everyone male and female liked the Alfa idea...so guess what I am getting.

You're going to join the army?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcAqR-Hs9II

Not "passing off" I guess, but... make your own decision!!

Edited by fozzymandeus on Thursday 10th May 19:41

[R I C H]

Skater12 said:

Or just lease one and screw the depreciation!

You mean lease one and pay for the depreciation - what else is leasing?

[howardhughes]

Peugeot's RCZ - what a pile of utter sh*te. Peugeot had clearly no idea of producing their own coupe, so went and ripped off an Audi TT Instead. Hideous. And to make matters worse its a Peugeot.

[nickfrog]

R I C H said:

Skater12 said:

Or just lease one and screw the depreciation!

You mean lease one and pay for the depreciation - what else is leasing?

Exactly. What a bizarre thing to think. Skater12, the car depreciates equally regardless of the way it's financed so if you lease it, who do you think pays for the depreciation ? Father Xmas ? You pay it every month (+ interests) rather than in one go, so it may feel less painful but it hurts equally (and much more than if you had bought a 2/3 year old car outright).