Clio trophy or jdm integra dc2
Discussion
Are some people getting a little confused here?
The OP is not talking about a Clio cup, he's talking about the Trophy, completely different propositions...........
The Trophy suspension set up is in another league to the Cup, in terms of agility, and more importantly I think, ride comfort.
I'd take a DC2 over a Cup, but not a Trophy.
As I've said, I think ITR's are incredible, but as an everyday proposition, Clio Trophy for me. Newer, a little more refined, I averaged 38MPG in the one I drove, cruise, speed limiter, nice seats, easy to park, awesome fun when you want it, shopping car when you don't.
Also, far easier to buy a decent one at the moment.
The OP is not talking about a Clio cup, he's talking about the Trophy, completely different propositions...........
The Trophy suspension set up is in another league to the Cup, in terms of agility, and more importantly I think, ride comfort.
I'd take a DC2 over a Cup, but not a Trophy.
As I've said, I think ITR's are incredible, but as an everyday proposition, Clio Trophy for me. Newer, a little more refined, I averaged 38MPG in the one I drove, cruise, speed limiter, nice seats, easy to park, awesome fun when you want it, shopping car when you don't.
Also, far easier to buy a decent one at the moment.
f1nn said:
Are some people getting a little confused here?
The OP is not talking about a Clio cup, he's talking about the Trophy, completely different propositions...........
The Trophy suspension set up is in another league to the Cup, in terms of agility, and more importantly I think, ride comfort.
I'd take a DC2 over a Cup, but not a Trophy.
As I've said, I think ITR's are incredible, but as an everyday proposition, Clio Trophy for me. Newer, a little more refined, I averaged 38MPG in the one I drove, cruise, speed limiter, nice seats, easy to park, awesome fun when you want it, shopping car when you don't.
Also, far easier to buy a decent one at the moment.
Are there different Trophy Clios? Because this one certainly looks very much like most CliosThe OP is not talking about a Clio cup, he's talking about the Trophy, completely different propositions...........
The Trophy suspension set up is in another league to the Cup, in terms of agility, and more importantly I think, ride comfort.
I'd take a DC2 over a Cup, but not a Trophy.
As I've said, I think ITR's are incredible, but as an everyday proposition, Clio Trophy for me. Newer, a little more refined, I averaged 38MPG in the one I drove, cruise, speed limiter, nice seats, easy to park, awesome fun when you want it, shopping car when you don't.
Also, far easier to buy a decent one at the moment.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrive...
C2james said:
f
king hell I say one slightly stupid comment and everyone turns on me, and 300 you can ps off some of the things I've seen you say are radiculous.
You could have a pop at 300 using "rpms" if you want retribution.king hell I say one slightly stupid comment and everyone turns on me, and 300 you can ps off some of the things I've seen you say are radiculous. Or his comparison between a car he has driven and a car he hasn't, which is only half as silly as your comment but is much more hypocritical.
Or you could swear some more.
What are the relevant prices like? I had a feeling a good Clio Trophy was still a few grand more expensive than a respectable DC2? That might swing it towards the Integra.
That said, anecdotal evidence suggests fuel costs should be rather lower on the Clio, plus the hatchback layout is more practical in many situations and the Trophy is a bit special.
Personally I think I'd go for the Clio if you can stretch to a good Trophy.
That said, anecdotal evidence suggests fuel costs should be rather lower on the Clio, plus the hatchback layout is more practical in many situations and the Trophy is a bit special.
Personally I think I'd go for the Clio if you can stretch to a good Trophy.
Chris71 said:
What are the relevant prices like? I had a feeling a good Clio Trophy was still a few grand more expensive than a respectable DC2? That might swing it towards the Integra.
That said, anecdotal evidence suggests fuel costs should be rather lower on the Clio, plus the hatchback layout is more practical in many situations and the Trophy is a bit special.
Personally I think I'd go for the Clio if you can stretch to a good Trophy.
yeah because the teg doesnt have a massive hatch does it lolThat said, anecdotal evidence suggests fuel costs should be rather lower on the Clio, plus the hatchback layout is more practical in many situations and the Trophy is a bit special.
Personally I think I'd go for the Clio if you can stretch to a good Trophy.
wackojacko said:
Why not buy a DC5 and have a car that day to day is better ? ......
DC5 would take it over 5k, but I'd agree it's more of a direct rival. You need to really want a dc2 to put up with running what is in reality an old car. Mines had some issues so I'm going to fix and sell. Not my cup of tea. Pm me
300bhp/ton said:
f1nn said:
Are some people getting a little confused here?
The OP is not talking about a Clio cup, he's talking about the Trophy, completely different propositions...........
The Trophy suspension set up is in another league to the Cup, in terms of agility, and more importantly I think, ride comfort.
I'd take a DC2 over a Cup, but not a Trophy.
As I've said, I think ITR's are incredible, but as an everyday proposition, Clio Trophy for me. Newer, a little more refined, I averaged 38MPG in the one I drove, cruise, speed limiter, nice seats, easy to park, awesome fun when you want it, shopping car when you don't.
Also, far easier to buy a decent one at the moment.
Are there different Trophy Clios? Because this one certainly looks very much like most CliosThe OP is not talking about a Clio cup, he's talking about the Trophy, completely different propositions...........
The Trophy suspension set up is in another league to the Cup, in terms of agility, and more importantly I think, ride comfort.
I'd take a DC2 over a Cup, but not a Trophy.
As I've said, I think ITR's are incredible, but as an everyday proposition, Clio Trophy for me. Newer, a little more refined, I averaged 38MPG in the one I drove, cruise, speed limiter, nice seats, easy to park, awesome fun when you want it, shopping car when you don't.
Also, far easier to buy a decent one at the moment.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrive...
vz-r_dave said:
Chris71 said:
What are the relevant prices like? I had a feeling a good Clio Trophy was still a few grand more expensive than a respectable DC2? That might swing it towards the Integra.
That said, anecdotal evidence suggests fuel costs should be rather lower on the Clio, plus the hatchback layout is more practical in many situations and the Trophy is a bit special.
Personally I think I'd go for the Clio if you can stretch to a good Trophy.
yeah because the teg doesnt have a massive hatch does it lolThat said, anecdotal evidence suggests fuel costs should be rather lower on the Clio, plus the hatchback layout is more practical in many situations and the Trophy is a bit special.
Personally I think I'd go for the Clio if you can stretch to a good Trophy.
(All of which means this is now a moot point, but if you have a coupe with fixed seats it can mean even a very large boot is less useful than a two-box hatchback with the seats down...)
As you were.
Chris71 said:
To be honest I typed that thinking the rear seats didn't fold on the DC2 (they do on the Clio) but a quick Google reveals I was mistaken.
(All of which means this is now a moot point, but if you have a coupe with fixed seats it can mean even a very large boot is less useful than a two-box hatchback with the seats down...)
As you were.
(All of which means this is now a moot point, but if you have a coupe with fixed seats it can mean even a very large boot is less useful than a two-box hatchback with the seats down...)
As you were.
My wife has had a JDM DC2 as a daily for 3 and a half years, and it's the best car we've ever had, full stop. It's been pretty much faultless, all it ever needs is an oil and filter change. We've done nearly 40k in it from track days to holidays in Devon with 2 bikes, a week's worth of her stuff, and a selection of birthday pressies, transported engines and wheels, moved house, and done numerous tip and firniture trips.
The boot is cavernous, the noise is wonderful, the seats and driving position are brilliant, the petrol consumption is not unreasonable, and the whole thing about 'no torque' is bobbins, even more so due to the weight of the car (or lack of)
We may have to sell at some point when we start a family, but to be honest, we're going to be inclined to keep it and jkust ge ta cheap 'practical' car. The bodywork isn't the greatest, and it does need some bushes replacing and the lifters adjusting, but it just takes everything we throw at it. It's an absolute joy to own.
I've never driven a Clio, but they are certainly on my list. If you want space though, the 'teg would be a winner.
The handling with an LSD just has to be driven to be believed. It does need to be driven past 90% to really gel though. Pottering around it can feel a little odd and distant, but it just comes alive when you push it. It doesn't feel like a FWD car, it's more MidWD! It's so communicative, so agile, and so adjustable. I spent thousands on the handling of my old 200sx, and then every time I got in the 'teg, I just wondered why I bothered.
They're not for everyone, but I urge you to try one.
I'm not sure who said that the clio would hold their value better, but a good, well looked after 'teg will pretty much plateau in price.
The boot is cavernous, the noise is wonderful, the seats and driving position are brilliant, the petrol consumption is not unreasonable, and the whole thing about 'no torque' is bobbins, even more so due to the weight of the car (or lack of)
We may have to sell at some point when we start a family, but to be honest, we're going to be inclined to keep it and jkust ge ta cheap 'practical' car. The bodywork isn't the greatest, and it does need some bushes replacing and the lifters adjusting, but it just takes everything we throw at it. It's an absolute joy to own.
I've never driven a Clio, but they are certainly on my list. If you want space though, the 'teg would be a winner.
The handling with an LSD just has to be driven to be believed. It does need to be driven past 90% to really gel though. Pottering around it can feel a little odd and distant, but it just comes alive when you push it. It doesn't feel like a FWD car, it's more MidWD! It's so communicative, so agile, and so adjustable. I spent thousands on the handling of my old 200sx, and then every time I got in the 'teg, I just wondered why I bothered.
They're not for everyone, but I urge you to try one.
I'm not sure who said that the clio would hold their value better, but a good, well looked after 'teg will pretty much plateau in price.
300bhp/ton said:
re there different Trophy Clios? Because this one certainly looks very much like most Clios
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrive...
In the same way as most Integra's look like Type R's apart from wheels and styling differences, then yes I agree.http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrive...
My point was that the Clio Trophy is superior to a Clio Cup in terms of it's ride/handling compromise.
f1nn said:
In the same way as most Integra's look like Type R's apart from wheels and styling differences, then yes I agree.
My point was that the Clio Trophy is superior to a Clio Cup in terms of it's ride/handling compromise.
The average joe does not know that they make integra's in other models outside of the uk so to them it is only the type r which is a coupe and therefore has less mums shopping car image. Reflecting on other points average joe believes Clio cup is Barry chavved up Clio mums shopping car. My point was that the Clio Trophy is superior to a Clio Cup in terms of it's ride/handling compromise.
Hmmm.......Don't get me wrong as I am a massive fan of both the DC2 and the Trophy, but lets be honest about image here, to the man in the street I'm not sure the red seats (and yes I know black and red Teg's have black recaros) and the large rear wing are especially desirable.
Chavvy hatch or chavvy "coupe"?
I know I'm doing both of these fine cars a dis-service, and yes to most enthusiasts these are desirable cars, but lets have a bit a realism when we talk about image, I certainly don't think an DC2 ITR is any better than a Clio trophy in this respect.
Chavvy hatch or chavvy "coupe"?
I know I'm doing both of these fine cars a dis-service, and yes to most enthusiasts these are desirable cars, but lets have a bit a realism when we talk about image, I certainly don't think an DC2 ITR is any better than a Clio trophy in this respect.
f1nn said:
Hmmm.......Don't get me wrong as I am a massive fan of both the DC2 and the Trophy, but lets be honest about image here, to the man in the street I'm not sure the red seats (and yes I know black and red Teg's have black recaros) and the large rear wing are especially desirable.
Chavvy hatch or chavvy "coupe"?
I know I'm doing both of these fine cars a dis-service, and yes to most enthusiasts these are desirable cars, but lets have a bit a realism when we talk about image, I certainly don't think an DC2 ITR is any better than a Clio trophy in this respect.
I have no idea, to me thy are both great cars but I am going on the basis of comments from the OH that she liked the teg and loved the seats for sleeping in ;-) when she see's a Clio she doesn't know the difference and probably doesn't thinks it "chav" either but who knows. She thinks "my mum has a clio or my sister"perhaps. The teg to the average joe looks like sports car, Clio a hatch and to the more than average joe a cup looks chav? Hmmm Sorry for the terrible English, on an iPhone Chavvy hatch or chavvy "coupe"?
I know I'm doing both of these fine cars a dis-service, and yes to most enthusiasts these are desirable cars, but lets have a bit a realism when we talk about image, I certainly don't think an DC2 ITR is any better than a Clio trophy in this respect.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff