RE: 770hp and 94mpg for Porsche 918 Spyder
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I presume (not knowning any details) that the hybrid system is self regenerating, so when idling, braking or not exceeding the power output of the engine, the batteries will be charging, therefore mains charging will only be required after a long, sustained hard run..
Perhaps it will have a limited highspeed run capability (which isn't realistic in most countries anyway), and may result in a situation comparable to the Veyron, which will use up its full tank capacity in ~15mins when at full pelt.
As above, good for companies like porsche to develop such technologies, as it does have genuine benefits in the right application (even sporting one IMO), and hope in years to come it filters down to lesser models at a reasonable cost.
KevSeymour said:
How did they come to that 94mpg figure?
I believe (although I'm not certain) that the standard EU cycle allows hybrids to start on a half charged battery. The test is not very long, so it's perfectly viable for a hybrid to run most, if not all, of the test on battery power alone, thus returning infinite fuel economy. The official fuel economy figures for hybrids are almost completely meaningless. If this actually does more than about 30mpg over a significant distance, I'll be astounded.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 16th May 12:29
fk me.
So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
- average over 10k miles, a run to the evo triangle gives 11....
Some Gump said:
fk me.
So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
If it has anything electric on or near the drive-train everyone starts going mental. Boring fks.So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
- average over 10k miles, a run to the evo triangle gives 11....
Some Gump said:
fk me.
So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
you've missed my point.So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
- average over 10k miles, a run to the evo triangle gives 11....
i'd like to know what mpg it gets when you take a long trip up to the evo triangle for instance, once it's run out of electricity! and how much power it produces.
lovely car though
It looks great, but we all know the official MPG figures are rarely achieved in the realworld, so it will be interesting to see if this manages it or if it's just another white elephant hybrid which comes with lots of headline grabbing figures that dont quite play out that way in real life
Having said that, it is porsche and it is a lot of money, so i expect they will be pushing the boat out to make sure this delivers on peoples expectations of the badge and engineering inside it, which is a level of expectation makers of bread and butter cars dont have to live up to, so it could well be this is the first hybrid to actually be really good
Having said that, it is porsche and it is a lot of money, so i expect they will be pushing the boat out to make sure this delivers on peoples expectations of the badge and engineering inside it, which is a level of expectation makers of bread and butter cars dont have to live up to, so it could well be this is the first hybrid to actually be really good
Some Gump said:
fk me.
So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
It's more the fact that if it was a 'normal' car from another manufacturer people would be having the rage about EU test conditions, unrealistic claims that border on lying, etc. Porsche do it and everyone heralds it as the next big thing. It's bizarre. So Porsche come up with an awesome looking thing with 770 brake, and you all bh that it might not get 94mpg at all times? Is this Priusheads?
I only get 20mpg to get 412 horse*, a mate gets 17mpg for his 500. If the 918 can get 770hp (even on short bursts) with anything over 15, it's ahead of the curve. 30mpg would have it better economy than a 2.7 boxster (228HP), ffs.
- average over 10k miles, a run to the evo triangle gives 11....
mpg is irrelevant on a supercar/hypercar. The tech shouldn't be there so that they can claim x, y or z, it should be there to enhance the car. Somehow I doubt it will. Jag's concept was much more radical and cohesive, unfortunately it's also further away.
What a crock .
1700 kg
Hybrid tech and batteries that will be obsolete in no time at all
4wd
" only " 770 hp
How could you fall from the heights of the Carrera gt to this poop ? 90 bleeding mph , who gives a god damn ? You've just spent almost a million euros do they think a few mpg is going to kill the deal ? Who wants a hybrid Supercar ?
Short sighted madness .
I knew it would be crap when they showed me the cruise control .
No thanks , I'll get an f40 and a 959 and spend the change in stringies .
1700 kg
Hybrid tech and batteries that will be obsolete in no time at all
4wd
" only " 770 hp
How could you fall from the heights of the Carrera gt to this poop ? 90 bleeding mph , who gives a god damn ? You've just spent almost a million euros do they think a few mpg is going to kill the deal ? Who wants a hybrid Supercar ?
Short sighted madness .
I knew it would be crap when they showed me the cruise control .
No thanks , I'll get an f40 and a 959 and spend the change in stringies .
Edited by wtdoom on Wednesday 16th May 13:09
I think the time has come for the EU to re-write the whole MPG test phase as clearly the companies are simply building cars to achieve good performance within the spectrum of the test (OK I'm not blameless here, we happily messed up the gear ratios on a car for CO2 and a company car tax bracket) - with no regard for the real world. The most obvious of these is stop start which works fine in the test phase where an engine is off for long periods, but is borderline pointless in real world conditions as you just don't sit TOTALLY still long enough.
Grrrrrrr!!
As for the Porsche - well I love it!! Damn this infernal poverty!!!!
Grrrrrrr!!
As for the Porsche - well I love it!! Damn this infernal poverty!!!!
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