RE: Chris Harris video: GT-R Track Pack vs 911 Turbo

RE: Chris Harris video: GT-R Track Pack vs 911 Turbo

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Raify

6,552 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Ooh, that's me getting overtaken at 4:54. I can confirm both those cars are insanely quick.

Lordglenmorangie

3,053 posts

205 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Final word from Chris, he would have a standard 997 Turbo MANUAL sorry for shouting biggrin

You can also go shopping in a Porsche Turbo without looking like a knob on steroids

V6GTA

2,004 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Great vid!

Don1

15,949 posts

208 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Your videos are getting better and better - really enjoying your remote interaction with the forums as well (thus proving you are reading and paying attention).

What's coming up next?

wackojacko

8,581 posts

190 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Harris, great video as per usual.


Favourite motoring journo at present.

Those PDK Turbo S's are insane when fettled by DMS, hit 207mph on clocks at Vmax in one last year.

I think the GTR has lost its unique selling point with the price gradually rising. It may well Be very good but Jesus they're getting pricey.....


Keep em cheap Nissan, rival the the M3 for price easily and you'll sell a shed load.

Chunkychucky

5,961 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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wackojacko said:
Harris, great video as per usual.


Favourite motoring journo at present.

Those PDK Turbo S's are insane when fettled by DMS, hit 207mph on clocks at Vmax in one last year.


Keep em cheap Nissan, rival the the M3 for price easily and you'll sell a shed load.
Agree with everything he said yes

JulesB

535 posts

159 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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E38Ross said:
and the nissan isn't incredible? it's what around £40k+ cheaper and how much slower? wink
Personal preference I suppose, dont get me wrong I think the Nissan is an amazing bit of kit but my loyalties are with Porsche smile

Shibbyjames

34 posts

151 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Thanks for another fantastic vid Chris & Team - it's great to get genuine, proper reviews and videos from like minded petrol heads and true driving enthusiasts, please keep up the great work we all really look forward to your features and hope the new Drive channel keeps growing strong!

nickfrog

21,162 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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wackojacko said:
Favourite motoring journo at present.
Agreed, although that's not particularly difficult.

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Dear Mr Chris,

Regarding pricing - agreed, the track pack is overpriced but - please remember that when the GT-R was launched V.A.T. was only 15% and the £52K ish price point was for a Premium Edition ( read base model ) without sat-nav...

raptor600

1,356 posts

146 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Bash Brannigan said:
I'd like to meet a GT-R owner, the Nissan just leaves me utterly cold and I'd like to hear the appeal beyond the empirical. I just don't get it!
byebye

What's not to get?

It's the quickest car you can buy for the money. It's handling is incredible, the gearbox is incredible - the car just doesn't have any rivals IMO. How can a car you have never driven (I am assuming based on your comment) leave you cold?

I have owned a couple of Ferrari's, M3's and Porchses - the Nissan is the best car I have ever owned and I have had it 3 years now biggrin

Chris Harris even said those that think the GTR is too clinical just haven't driven one properly.

Contigo

3,113 posts

209 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Let me guess... He Prefers the Porsche? biggrin


GT2CS

657 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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the evolution of the GTR price since launch has a lot to do with the exchange rate of the British Pound versus the Japanese Yen. In early 2008 £1 bought you 210 odd Yen. Today it buys you just 127. That's 40% less, and about the same as the increase from the original £52k for the base model.

K2MDL

2,673 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Harris says: "What grabs my attention is the list price. The first UK R35 GT-R I drove was £52,995 - this one is over £30K more and it is mechanically little different. Yes, the 490hp is now 550hp, and there are a load of upgrades, but most of those come with successive modelyear improvements. Where once the GT-R was an absolute bargain, that is no longer the case".

You can't blame Nissan for exchange rates problems. Cost us almost twice as much to buy Yen today as it did when the GTR was first released. This is the only reason the GT-R isn't the bargain it was back in 2008. Simples.... idea






Edited by K2MDL on Thursday 17th May 14:43

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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nickfrog said:
wackojacko said:
Favourite motoring journo at present.
Agreed, although that's not particularly difficult.
Yeah? So who are you READING?

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

232 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Bash Brannigan said:
I'd like to meet a GT-R owner, the Nissan just leaves me utterly cold and I'd like to hear the appeal beyond the empirical. I just don't get it!
You don't need to meet a GT-R owner.
Just google any article about them from any journalist and read it and they will all explain why your preconceptions are false!

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

232 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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GT2CS said:
the evolution of the GTR price since launch has a lot to do with the exchange rate of the British Pound versus the Japanese Yen. In early 2008 £1 bought you 210 odd Yen. Today it buys you just 127. That's 40% less, and about the same as the increase from the original £52k for the base model.
Except they first arrived in April 2009 and at the time Nissan still claimed to be making money on them despite the exchange rate being 140.
I find it pretty inexcusable and a real shame. It still a lot of car for the money and if they had priced it at 65k from the outset there would seem nothing wrong with its current price tag.
BUt to increase it the way they have after acknowledging they could afford to put it out at 53k seems like nothing more than a piss-take to me.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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blindswelledrat said:
Bash Brannigan said:
I'd like to meet a GT-R owner, the Nissan just leaves me utterly cold and I'd like to hear the appeal beyond the empirical. I just don't get it!
You don't need to meet a GT-R owner.
Just google any article about them from any journalist and read it and they will all explain why your preconceptions are false!
...or just drive one and form your own opinion.

El Shafto

133 posts

145 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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robm3 said:
Surely the 40K price difference makes it a little unfair as a 'real world' comparison though?
But then what the hell would you compare it with? That's what makes the GT-R so amazing - It's great value for money and punches well above it's weight. It's a genuine Super car killer. If you compared it to anything of a similar price, then it just completely embarrass it in handling and speed comparisons. Who'd have thought you could go from 0-60 in 2.8 seconds, in a car that costs less than £90k????

RichTBiscuit

430 posts

151 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Whoever is moaning about Harris 'doing skids' needs to take a look at themselves in the mirror.

Chris - mix of Yobbo driving and 'Track' driving would be perfect smile

Great Vids.