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General Madness
Original Poster
215 posts
21 months
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I have had an auto electrician out to the car today.
It turned out to be the relay for the fuel pump. There is a little bit of corrosion on the connections and one little bit of plastic on the edge looks like its melted a little.
Anyway, connections cleaned up, grease applied and starting fine now.
Cheers for all the advice folks.
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Sump
1,585 posts
36 months
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Good job, just a typical French car problem!
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POORCARDEALER
5,639 posts
110 months
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I think this thread highlights the expectations of the general public now (not having a go at the OP here).
We have stopped selling part exchange cars that retail below 1500 quid due to customers returning non stop, demanding free this that and the other, expecting you to recover their car (Im in the AA why dont you join) three months after they bought it...
The market is now so price driven that very soon the only garages selling cheap cars will be ones that move once a year and are happy to tell customers to F Off when they have any problem.
And a warranty that is insurance backed on a 10 year old car will be literally worthless as they wont pay out on almost everything.
SOGA....It isnt an easy route to go down to exercise your rights when you have bought a cheap car...it is very time consuming and the laws are open to interpritation, and depends on the mood of the judge unfortunatly in many cases.
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Gmund
32 posts
13 months
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MSTRBKR said: Seriously getting tired of this French car b  ks now on PH. Not only is this a load of s  t, you are not helping the OP by posting drivel like this. Cars don't start sometimes, all cars. It could be a component that is not even from France. You can just alt+F4 for all I care. OP, Any warning lights at all? Try the immobiliser trick above and yes the TDC (top dead centre) sensor can be temperamental. It is located under the airbox on the right side of the engine. It has a 'banana' shaped bracket and looks like this.  I took mine off and cleaned it with some alcohol and the car was fine once again. Even if it's broken it's £30 for a new one and will take about 30 minutes tops to change by yourself. If you sign up to cliosport.net and search for a problem you will have the answer and a place to buy it from in about 5 minutes. Everyone knocks French cars but the only stuff that breaks is the easy and cheap stuff to fix, whereas the stuff that breaks on a VAG car is something massive like a brake master cylinder to the tune of £800 (from memory). Here, here! I've had quite a few Frenchies, and they've been wonderful little cars. In fact, my girlfriend has a 2001 Peugeot 106 which is 100% reliable, everything works, and it went through its last MOT with no advisories. The tester said it was faultless. I run a Renault Clio 200 Cup, and again it's an absolutely cracking car. OK, so it's only 2 years old, but it is a 100% reliable, and well put together little car.
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TallbutBuxomly
11,933 posts
85 months
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Poorcardealer there has to be a degree of leeway. You cannot expect to sell a used car and if issue crop up abandon the customer. It is YOUR job as a car dealer through knowledge and experience in the field to be able to assess cars that you are buying into stock for any potential issues.
As the average buyer has no clue about cars. At the same time ther needs to be a degree of common sense from buyers of second hand cars. They arent going to be perfect so they should expect the odd dent etc.
Fundamental things like brakes that are barely legal etc are for the dealer to spot and sort and are the dealers issue. Likewise any serious issues such as engine gearbox or electrical problems you should reasonably be expected to notice.
I bought my first car off a second hand dealer for 250 quid iirc and the exhaust started chucking out its filler a short while later. I didnt go running back complaining as it was to be expected on an old car and quite frankly for the price I paid it would have been unreasonable to complain.
If however the engine blew up ten minutes after driving off i would be knocking on his door. Mechanically it was sound and everything worked as it should.
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POORCARDEALER
5,639 posts
110 months
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TallbutBuxomly said: Poorcardealer there has to be a degree of leeway. You cannot expect to sell a used car and if issue crop up abandon the customer. It is YOUR job as a car dealer through knowledge and experience in the field to be able to assess cars that you are buying into stock for any potential issues.
AGREED.....But, as an example the OP's car runs fine for 700 miles, so clearly no problem that the dealer could identify prior to the car being sold, its part and parcel of the job, but this is the reason i dont sell cheaper part exchanges now, there isnt enough margin in them to spend time finding electrical faults.
As the average buyer has no clue about cars. At the same time ther needs to be a degree of common sense from buyers of second hand cars. They arent going to be perfect so they should expect the odd dent etc.
PROBLEM is when things are tight economically, customers are looking at the dealer to rectify absolutely everything.
Fundamental things like brakes that are barely legal etc are for the dealer to spot and sort and are the dealers issue. Likewise any serious issues such as engine gearbox or electrical problems you should reasonably be expected to notice.
AGREED
I bought my first car off a second hand dealer for 250 quid iirc and the exhaust started chucking out its filler a short while later. I didnt go running back complaining as it was to be expected on an old car and quite frankly for the price I paid it would have been unreasonable to complain.
If however the engine blew up ten minutes after driving off i would be knocking on his door. Mechanically it was sound and everything worked as it should. YOU sound like a sensible buyer, seriously many are not.
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Deva Link
26,934 posts
114 months
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TallbutBuxomly said: Poorcardealer there has to be a degree of leeway. You cannot expect to sell a used car and if issue crop up abandon the customer. It is YOUR job as a car dealer through knowledge and experience in the field to be able to assess cars that you are buying into stock for any potential issues. So he's saying the solution is he doesn't sell cheap cars anymore. I guess, like loans sharks, the sort of people who will sell into that market will go underground so consumers will be completely unprotected.
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TallbutBuxomly
11,933 posts
85 months
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Deva Link said: So he's saying the solution is he doesn't sell cheap cars anymore. I guess, like loans sharks, the sort of people who will sell into that market will go underground so consumers will be completely unprotected. Sadly yes. vicious circle. Buyers want something for nothing only people prepared to offer it are the scum who will sell them crap and disappear leaving the something for nothing to whinge about how unfair things are.
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Ullevi
281 posts
39 months
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VR46 said: I have had several french cars and vans thru work, everyone was an unreliable lemon. 306gti, clio's, pug experts, berlingo's, megane, 106, etc etc I am talking from experience when I say they are unreliable crap. Funny how defensive some crap car owners can be in this thread. Search jd power surveys for info, french cars dont do well!
I'm not stupid enough to spend MY cash on a french heap of crap! Jap or German for me, currently have a golf v6 4motion and a honda fireblade fwiw. Agree, French cars have a rep for a reason. It is many moons since I had French cars, and to be honest, they were reliable for the short time I kept them. Now that I am likely to keep cars a little longer (3-5 yrs) there is no way I would touch the current batch of French tat on offer. Just read through Honest John's recent report on MOT failure figures. Guess which country's cars are below average/ near the bottom of the pile for MOT failures right from year 3 and on. Sorry, if I cause any members to blow a fuse (must be French electrics!).
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