RE: PH Carpool: LS3-powered TVR Cerbera
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E500 TAT said:
The idiots even posted a video of his stupid driving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eD0RKVTkew&fea...
Passing on either side, driving around the outside of people, passing at the pit lane exit.
I'll tell you what brummie, i'll be at donington friday, i'll tell you face to face what i think of your driving.
Is stalking a new trend on PH? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eD0RKVTkew&fea...
Passing on either side, driving around the outside of people, passing at the pit lane exit.
I'll tell you what brummie, i'll be at donington friday, i'll tell you face to face what i think of your driving.
E500 TAT said:
djstevec said:
What were the instructions given about passing?
personally I can see the arguments from both points but on Saturday the were alot of people not looking in their mirrors, their for a stroll round the circuit, not moving over etc and yes brummie may have been passing here there and everywhere but this is always going to happen when you have such a vary degree of speed, I couldn't be bothered with the session to be honest as just too much traffic and idiots who don't have a clue what they are doing in their car!
while you could point the finger at Brummie, 500 has also blatantly come on here to try and get a reaction and brummie has pretty much ignored it to try and stop the thread going off topic and 500 is still on at it, if your that pissed of talk about it on the video thread you have found.
Never met either one of them but tbh if I saw a car coming up behind me as fast as brummie I'd stick my indicator on and move over even if it was in the hairpin.
If you have a problem do as anyone else should and take it to the marshals or have a word privately, don't come spouting s
t on forums.
while you could point the finger at Brummie, 500 has also blatantly come on here to try and get a reaction and brummie has pretty much ignored it to try and stop the thread going off topic and 500 is still on at it, if your that pissed of talk about it on the video thread you have found.
Never met either one of them but tbh if I saw a car coming up behind me as fast as brummie I'd stick my indicator on and move over even if it was in the hairpin.
If you have a problem do as anyone else should and take it to the marshals or have a word privately, don't come spouting s
t on forums.E500 TAT said:
macdeb said:
E500 TAT said:
It's a real shame he drives it like a complete prick at track days ignoring the rules set out at the briefing about not overtaking in the bends or in the braking zones.
And don't give me no grief about moaning and groaning, i paid my money to go on track at mallory on saturday, i went into the briefing and i agreed to abide by the rules set up by the guys in charge.
Then when your out on track the last thing you expect is some prick diving up the inside of you as your braking and about to turn into the hairpin.
If you want to go racing, get a licence and go racing, this was a track day for people of all abilities to try and enjoy a great day out.
If i'd have found you in the paddock after that second session you'd have got my mouthfull face to face. luckily when i found out you were in one of the pit garages later in the day i'd calmed down by then but i did notice you out on the track doing the same stuff.
Rant over.
OOOOhhh, OOOHHH Ooooo, calm down dear. I'm sure that 'if' you'd have found him [titter] you would've discovered he's a good guy. The thread is about the car, not you getting all upset 'cus someone went past you And don't give me no grief about moaning and groaning, i paid my money to go on track at mallory on saturday, i went into the briefing and i agreed to abide by the rules set up by the guys in charge.
Then when your out on track the last thing you expect is some prick diving up the inside of you as your braking and about to turn into the hairpin.
If you want to go racing, get a licence and go racing, this was a track day for people of all abilities to try and enjoy a great day out.
If i'd have found you in the paddock after that second session you'd have got my mouthfull face to face. luckily when i found out you were in one of the pit garages later in the day i'd calmed down by then but i did notice you out on the track doing the same stuff.
Rant over.
The guys a prick and i stand by that.
THE THREAD IS ABOUT THE CAR
Not you getting all upset about Pauls mom. Get over it dude.
Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 22 May 21:06
slippery said:
Brummmie said:
As for the guy who got passed on the brakes, i think it was the session i let my mum have a go, i've had a word with her and she says she wont do it again!
That IS funny Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 22 May 21:01
Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 22 May 21:05
Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 22 May 21:08
I watched that video and I have to say that his driving seemed very good with safe overtakes even if he did not observe the spirit of the rules but that is down to poor marshalling of the rules, we all get the red mist....
I would also point out that the speed of many of the other cars were far too low and ability of drivers was quite novice to be on the same track day.
When I first moved up to RMA track days I was intimidated by the speed of the other drivers and often felt they were being rude and aggressive but as my ability rose I understood that they were fine and comfortable with the distances that felt scary to me initially. I then found I was finally driving as close and felt at home and I didn't see any coming together in 100 s of track days.
I think the carbide and driver would be more at home on some more advanced track days and the more novice drivers would feel less intimidated.
I would also point out that the speed of many of the other cars were far too low and ability of drivers was quite novice to be on the same track day.
When I first moved up to RMA track days I was intimidated by the speed of the other drivers and often felt they were being rude and aggressive but as my ability rose I understood that they were fine and comfortable with the distances that felt scary to me initially. I then found I was finally driving as close and felt at home and I didn't see any coming together in 100 s of track days.
I think the carbide and driver would be more at home on some more advanced track days and the more novice drivers would feel less intimidated.
macdeb said:
slippery said:
Brummmie said:
As for the guy who got passed on the brakes, i think it was the session i let my mum have a go, i've had a word with her and she says she wont do it again!
That IS funny Game, set & match! suprised the driver of the slow car that got overtaken showed his face again after that!
To the OP: great car, that's all most of us are interested in on here
ikarl said:
if driving on the limit as we all do on track
If you're driving "on the limit" on an open trackday with mixed road/race cars, you're a massive, massive, massive tool!Trackdays (open pitlane/mixed road/race/class ones at least) are for people to take their cars out and 'use them as intended' without speed limits and oncoming traffic.
What they are NOT are places to find out the limits of your car/talent because other people's cars will probably get tangled-up in your accident or their time and money will be wasted whilst your f
k-up is cleared from the track at least.I've not a trackday for a few years now, but a spin used to mean the end of your day - and should always mean that (unless caused by someone else perhaps).
I don't want to continue to drag this thread in the wrong direction but I couldn't let that comment go because it's so utterly and massively retarded that either the poster has never actually done a trackday or they're utterly and totally mental and I'd like to know which trackdays they do so I never, ever meet them.
Obviously track days mean different things to different people. I've spun on a trackday. I'm also somewhat dubious of anyone who is that confident of the difference between going fast and spinning. If you don't cross the line occasionally, how do you know where it is.
If you drive a bland eurobox jaguar or somesuch you can feel the car about to lose it as its set up for the lowest common denominator. However a light sportscar will hold on till the very last split second and suddenly let go. You will get very little warning with those sort of cars.
On a trackday if you are comming up to a bend and cars are all around you I go easy for obvious reasons. However if there is nothing behind or infront then pushing enough to get a four wheel drift or catching the back end is what the track day is all about. Other than that not quite sure what you are learning by going fast but not actually coming close to the cars ability.
If you drive a bland eurobox jaguar or somesuch you can feel the car about to lose it as its set up for the lowest common denominator. However a light sportscar will hold on till the very last split second and suddenly let go. You will get very little warning with those sort of cars.
On a trackday if you are comming up to a bend and cars are all around you I go easy for obvious reasons. However if there is nothing behind or infront then pushing enough to get a four wheel drift or catching the back end is what the track day is all about. Other than that not quite sure what you are learning by going fast but not actually coming close to the cars ability.
johnpeat said:
ikarl said:
if driving on the limit as we all do on track
If you're driving "on the limit" on an open trackday with mixed road/race cars, you're a massive, massive, massive tool!Trackdays (open pitlane/mixed road/race/class ones at least) are for people to take their cars out and 'use them as intended' without speed limits and oncoming traffic.
What they are NOT are places to find out the limits of your car/talent because other people's cars will probably get tangled-up in your accident or their time and money will be wasted whilst your f
k-up is cleared from the track at least.I've not a trackday for a few years now, but a spin used to mean the end of your day - and should always mean that (unless caused by someone else perhaps).
I don't want to continue to drag this thread in the wrong direction but I couldn't let that comment go because it's so utterly and massively retarded that either the poster has never actually done a trackday or they're utterly and totally mental and I'd like to know which trackdays they do so I never, ever meet them.
Driving on the limit = driving at the point where speed, safety & confidence in your own car and abilities still feel comfortable. To go over the limit would mean out of control drifting, powering up the inside of cars that are braking into corners etc.
I have done 1 or 2 trackdays
and very fortunately never spun, crashed or even came close to it... that for me is driving on the limit. The point that is safe to do with other cars about.The point I WAS trying to make is that people driving past their limit, or the limit of others, on the track at any given point is downright dangerous and something I've seen happen on a few occasions.
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