School Transportation of P1's

[Crow555]

Based on the reaction of this thread and now that I realise how dangerous cars and buses are, I'll demand that any field trips that my little darlings are going on, they get there by being shot out of a cannon.

[hairykrishna]

Bayerischer said:

good for you. I didn't have kids until I was 34. Given that you don't have kids, posting ttty comments on this topic, which is pretty serious as Pistonheads topics goes, would seem to make you the ignorant one.

It's not that serious though, really, is it? Some kids got a lift in a Clio is essentially what it boils down to.

[DanDC5]

hairykrishna said:

It's not that serious though, really, is it? Some kids got a lift in a Clio is essentially what it boils down to.

+ Teacher tries to be good Samaritan, get's nothing but crap in return. At least he knows to tell the kids where to go next time, they can stay at the school instead while everyone else goes on the trip.

[EDLT]

DannyScene said:

benjj said:

Jamie VTS said:

No I did however spend 18 years being one.

So, let me get this straight... You are questioning the judgement of a parent even though you're not one?

Best image I could do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNyPwJZL2E

Seriously though, what is a P1 if it is not an Impreza? If nobody tells me I'll go fking apoplectic with rage.

[Leptons]

EDLT said:

Seriously though, what is a P1 if it is not an Impreza? If nobody tells me I'll go fking apoplectic with rage.

+1

The only thing I can come up with is some sort of mumsnet derived code for primary school student.

Please tell me quick I'm about to explode

[anonymous-user]

EDLT said:

DannyScene said:

benjj said:

Jamie VTS said:

No I did however spend 18 years being one.

So, let me get this straight... You are questioning the judgement of a parent even though you're not one?

Best image I could do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlNyPwJZL2E

Seriously though, what is a P1 if it is not an Impreza? If nobody tells me I'll go fking apoplectic with rage.

That phrase is brilliant, don't you think?

[Leptons]

Can see it sticking around for a couple of weeks.

[DanDC5]

I think P1 is what I would have called year 1 at primary school. Really though, it's a fking Impreza.

[uuf361]

I think it used by known as 1st year but that's probably not PC any more and makes children feel inferior or some such bks.

[Javam]

DanDC5 said:

hairykrishna said:

It's not that serious though, really, is it? Some kids got a lift in a Clio is essentially what it boils down to.

+ Teacher tries to be good Samaritan, get's nothing but crap in return. At least he knows to tell the kids where to go next time, they can stay at the school instead while everyone else goes on the trip.

Or they could do a bit of basic forward planning as what it boils down to is that the teacher/school did not compare number of people going with number of seats on bus and send a note round the parents saying something along the lines of:

"due to number of people going on this trip and in an effort to keep the costs down to that agreed, x number of teachers have volunteered to take the children in their cars. Please could you rsvp to let us know if you would be able to provide a car seat for your child, or if you are happy for them to travel without a booster seat".

win win for everybody and no unhappy teachers or parents.

A bit of simple communication and planning seems a fairly basic expectation for a parent to have from a school.

Not thinking ahead and knowingly increasing the risk of injury to the child 'should' an accident occur as a result, is a breach of their duty of care.

You can soap box about initiative and making do as much as you like, it is a clear case of bad planning and asking for repercussions, however well intentioned the decision to use the car was. At the very least and allowing for the fact st happens and plans fail, in this situation I would expect the school to phone me up and ask if it was ok or if I wanted to drop a seat round/take them myself.

If the safety of a child is being put at risk the parent has a right to know.

If you don't have a problem with it and will not take legal action against the school or teacher should your child be injured, good for you. Some of us do have a problem with it though so is respecting that viewpoint too much to ask?

Returning to the OP's original question, going down the route of what laws apply is a heavy handed approach.

I would right a letter to the school expressing your displeasure and politely request that they consult you in the future if they need to transport your child. Presumably this is the first issue you have had over the care of your child and therefore a simple request should be sufficient. If they refuse or do it again, then start looking at more weighty options.

[jbush]

Leptons said:

+1

The only thing I can come up with is some sort of mumsnet derived code for primary school student.

Please tell me quick I'm about to explode

It is a rating that teachers use to know how much of a prat the parents are. P1 being absolute massive dheads who will bh and moan that their little burst condom had to walk from the APC that drove them to school that day and the front door of the school.

P10 being the sort of parents who is glad the teachers are doing everything they can to create a nice environment for their children to learn and accept that at times things do not go to plan, but no one was hurt and the teacher made a kind gesture to help their burst condom go on a school trip.

Unfortunately the latter hasn't been seen in the wild for a number of years. They are assumed extinct.

[TheEnd]

CampDavid said:

Because unless you have kids you don't understand, right?

(Read, unless you have kids, you won't understand how little perspective some parents have)

Yep, until you join that club, your arguments will always be invalid.

[Sir Bagalot]

balls-out said:

I pity the younger generation. They are so protected that they will have no idea how to live their own lives when daddy and mummy finally let them out of the cotton wool.

I'd rather the tiny risk of something happening to my children than the certainty of a stunted childhood. Yes - I have kids. I let them walk and cycle to school - I had to write the headmaster before he could allow it. I was tempted to tell him that its wasn't his business how my children travel, but I guess the poor man was trying to defend himself from people like OP.

I even let my children ride their bikes without a cycle helmet!!

[Jamie VTS]

Sir Bagalot said:

I even let my children ride their bikes without a cycle helmet!!

Bloody hell! You should be stoned to death.

[DannyScene]

Sir Bagalot said:

balls-out said:

I pity the younger generation. They are so protected that they will have no idea how to live their own lives when daddy and mummy finally let them out of the cotton wool.

I'd rather the tiny risk of something happening to my children than the certainty of a stunted childhood. Yes - I have kids. I let them walk and cycle to school - I had to write the headmaster before he could allow it. I was tempted to tell him that its wasn't his business how my children travel, but I guess the poor man was trying to defend himself from people like OP.

I even let my children ride their bikes without a cycle helmet!!

That's brave, my mum let me do that once I died 3 times!!

[Vantagefan]

Sir Bagalot said:

I even let my children ride their bikes without a cycle helmet!!

You're crazy man.

[fozzymandeus]

Jamie VTS said:

Sir Bagalot said:

I even let my children ride their bikes without a cycle helmet!!

Bloody hell! You should be stoned to death.

With marshmallow stones, whilst wearing the approved PPE.

[XitUp]

Seems a bit daft planning a trip and not getting a bus with enough seats.

benjj said:

So, let me get this straight... You are questioning the judgement of a parent even though you're not one?

It is illegal to disagree with parents unless you have kids. Fact!

[EDLT]

Javam said:

"due to number of people going on this trip and in an effort to keep the costs down to that agreed, x number of teachers have volunteered to take the children in their cars. Please could you rsvp to let us know if you would be able to provide a car seat for your child, or if you are happy for them to travel without a booster seat".

If they did that then the trip in the car wouldn't have been unplanned, therefore a booster seat would be required so they wouldn't be insured in the event of an accident and there would be no compo to be had.

[horton]

DanDC5 said:

+ Teacher tries to be good Samaritan, get's nothing but crap in return. At least he knows to tell the kids where to go next time, they can stay at the school instead while everyone else goes on the trip.

Agreed.
I work in an school and I have given kids lifts home when they are sick, there is heavy rain, etc...
The parents thank me for doing them a favour and have never complained.