School Transportation of P1's
Discussion
horton said:
Agreed.
I work in an school and I have given kids lifts home when they are sick, there is heavy rain, etc...
The parents thank me for doing them a favour and have never complained.
WHAT! Obviously they are negligent parents to allow their little snowflakes to be exposed to such danger! I work in an school and I have given kids lifts home when they are sick, there is heavy rain, etc...
The parents thank me for doing them a favour and have never complained.
You seriously have to wonder where the modern neurosis in British society over the 'safety' of kids from an array of very unlikely dangers comes from. I personally think it's a mixture of guilt (for not devoting enough quality time) and insecurity (they feel that the kids are reflections of them). Whatever it is, it's widespread and making teachers lives hell.
Hi, Thanks for all your comments.
I have no plan to SUE anybody and if that was the plan I would not have taken out an advert on the WWW.
The point about the wheels was if the car is insured thru the school has it been declared that the car has been modified. Thus invalidating the insurance.
For the non parents amongst you P1 stands for Primary 1 ( 5-6 years old ).
Again thanks for all the response........
I have no plan to SUE anybody and if that was the plan I would not have taken out an advert on the WWW.
The point about the wheels was if the car is insured thru the school has it been declared that the car has been modified. Thus invalidating the insurance.
For the non parents amongst you P1 stands for Primary 1 ( 5-6 years old ).
Again thanks for all the response........
Saabhonda said:
Hi All,
My 5 year old was going on his first school trip, There are 19 kids in the class and so the school decided it would be a good idea to use 2 of the teachers own cars as the mini bus was full. My child ended up in the back seat with 2 other children with no booster/child seats. The car was a 02 Clio with non standard alloy wheels and driven by an older teacher.
We are not impressed and have approached the school head teacher who was very sorry.
My Q is what is the law surrounding the transportation of school children??????????
Thanks Nick
P.S this is my first post.....
I suspect, based on your needless over usage of question marks, that you need to get a grip.My 5 year old was going on his first school trip, There are 19 kids in the class and so the school decided it would be a good idea to use 2 of the teachers own cars as the mini bus was full. My child ended up in the back seat with 2 other children with no booster/child seats. The car was a 02 Clio with non standard alloy wheels and driven by an older teacher.
We are not impressed and have approached the school head teacher who was very sorry.
My Q is what is the law surrounding the transportation of school children??????????
Thanks Nick
P.S this is my first post.....
No one came to any harm.
If anything you need to open a can of whoop arse on your kid for not being at the front of the queue for the bus.
Bayerischer said:
St John Smythe said:
Bayerischer said:
Jamie VTS said:
benjj said:
Yes, absolutely. Do you have kids?
No I did however spend 18 years being one.
Bayerischer, how about you have a nice sit down and a cup of tea, relax and stop making yourself look like a fool?
I have a 5 year old, i couldn't give a f
k if the school bungied her to the back of the bus, as long as she came to no harm.
I suspect those who get wound up by a lack of health and safety will in 10 minutes time be getting wound up by health and safety legislation that impinges on their lives and decrying the compensation culture.
k if the school bungied her to the back of the bus, as long as she came to no harm.I suspect those who get wound up by a lack of health and safety will in 10 minutes time be getting wound up by health and safety legislation that impinges on their lives and decrying the compensation culture.
Lucas Ayde said:
WHAT! Obviously they are negligent parents to allow their little snowflakes to be exposed to such danger!
You seriously have to wonder where the modern neurosis in British society over the 'safety' of kids from an array of very unlikely dangers comes from. I personally think it's a mixture of guilt (for not devoting enough quality time) and insecurity (they feel that the kids are reflections of them). Whatever it is, it's widespread and making teachers lives hell.
Luckily, I don't live/work in UK.You seriously have to wonder where the modern neurosis in British society over the 'safety' of kids from an array of very unlikely dangers comes from. I personally think it's a mixture of guilt (for not devoting enough quality time) and insecurity (they feel that the kids are reflections of them). Whatever it is, it's widespread and making teachers lives hell.
I am also allowed to pat kids on the back without because arrested for being a pedo.
I have given kids a slap round the back of the head without being arrested for beating kids.
Obviously the teacher(s) / school were trying to avoid disappointing the child / children by giving them a lift in the car.
I'm sure the OP would have been on here complaining just as vigorously had their child been denied the school trip to due lack of spaces on the official transport.
Typically, the schools / teachers just can't win.
I'm sure the OP would have been on here complaining just as vigorously had their child been denied the school trip to due lack of spaces on the official transport.
Typically, the schools / teachers just can't win.
Saabhonda said:
Hi, Thanks for all your comments.
I have no plan to SUE anybody and if that was the plan I would not have taken out an advert on the WWW.
The point about the wheels was if the car is insured thru the school has it been declared that the car has been modified. Thus invalidating the insurance.
For the non parents amongst you P1 stands for Primary 1 ( 5-6 years old ).
Again thanks for all the response........
What an oddly detached way to describe your children, is there another reason you took so much interest in potential insurance payouts?I have no plan to SUE anybody and if that was the plan I would not have taken out an advert on the WWW.
The point about the wheels was if the car is insured thru the school has it been declared that the car has been modified. Thus invalidating the insurance.
For the non parents amongst you P1 stands for Primary 1 ( 5-6 years old ).
Again thanks for all the response........
This thread is priceless (in places).
I remember three or four of us being taken on a school trip in our teachers early VW Beetle. I was in the front, and we got there quite safely. Another time we were on a trip to the Peak District and the school minibus we were in did actually have a crash when we were on our way home.
An old Cortina (which turned out to be on bold tyres), clipped somebody else, then came spinning across the road and collided with us. Our Transit 'bus had two long bench seats running alongside the full length of the side panels with no seat belts (early eighties model), which collapsed on impact. I hurt my hip and someone else got water on the knee, nothing more serious than that.
So, I can sort of see both sides of the argument, but I do think parents get a bit too hysterical these days. I blame that there Internet for heightening awareness a tad too much......
I remember three or four of us being taken on a school trip in our teachers early VW Beetle. I was in the front, and we got there quite safely. Another time we were on a trip to the Peak District and the school minibus we were in did actually have a crash when we were on our way home.
An old Cortina (which turned out to be on bold tyres), clipped somebody else, then came spinning across the road and collided with us. Our Transit 'bus had two long bench seats running alongside the full length of the side panels with no seat belts (early eighties model), which collapsed on impact. I hurt my hip and someone else got water on the knee, nothing more serious than that.
So, I can sort of see both sides of the argument, but I do think parents get a bit too hysterical these days. I blame that there Internet for heightening awareness a tad too much......
DJC said:
Bayerischer said:
Its a little different. Come back to this thread when you have kids. until then f**k off
I have ultimate health and safety responsibility for many, many children.
I am not a parent.
Am I allowed to have a view?
Until you have a child....Until you have a child you cannot possibly know!
Of course people who aren’t parents can post an opinion.
But it’s about as relevant as me posting an opinion on the handling of a Cayman even though I’ve never actually driven one.
I think most of those with kids have some sympathy for the OP insofar as they would be wary of letting an unknown driver in an unknown car drive their children around.
It’s one thing to have a kid given a lift by a known teacher in their Volvo.
It’s quite another to be told after the fact that your kid got a lift by some random teacher in a chaved up corsa.
There are too many people jumping on this thread because they want to be part of a pack of wolves and not enough of them are equipped to consider what it means to be a parent.
But it’s about as relevant as me posting an opinion on the handling of a Cayman even though I’ve never actually driven one.
I think most of those with kids have some sympathy for the OP insofar as they would be wary of letting an unknown driver in an unknown car drive their children around.
It’s one thing to have a kid given a lift by a known teacher in their Volvo.
It’s quite another to be told after the fact that your kid got a lift by some random teacher in a chaved up corsa.
There are too many people jumping on this thread because they want to be part of a pack of wolves and not enough of them are equipped to consider what it means to be a parent.
benjj said:
CampDavid said:
So if you're kid was killed you'd worry about the payout?
Seriously, that pretty much sums up everything that's wrong with society
If you change that around a bit you end up with the justification of pretty much every insurance dodger out there. Nice work.Seriously, that pretty much sums up everything that's wrong with society
Frankly the answer is mute anyway, because as far as I'm aware even if said teacher hadn't declared a bloody V8 engine conversion, let alone a set of poxy alloy wheels, then any third party claims could still be made against his insurance with the only question as to whether the insurance would then seek to reclaim those costs from the policy holder.
mattnunn said:
I have a 5 year old, i couldn't give a fk if the school bungied her to the back of the bus, as long as she came to no harm.
And what if she did come to harm?k if the school bungied her to the back of the bus, as long as she came to no harm.(I know that's a horrible thing to suggest about your kid, and it’s not a nice thing for you to consider.)
But would it not be tragic if your kid was badly injured in a car crash because of a lack of proper seating in a car crash that was caused by a near blind 55 year old teacher going the wrong way up a sliproad in their badly maintained car.
Imagine a situation where if you met the driver or saw the car you would not let your kid into it. But the school decided it was safe.
I would imagine you’d be livid that the school allowed it to happen.
It’s one thing to give a single kid a lift home.
It’s quite another to bundle three kids into a car and take off on a school trip.
DJC said:
I have ultimate health and safety responsibility for many, many children.
I am not a parent.
Am I allowed to have a view?
As for the OP, I am with him, if it was my son, I would be asking the school, how they came to arrange a school trip without having a coach big enough for all the children.
And for all those saying "nothing happened so what you worrying about", do we have to wait till something goes wrong before complaining to the school about the mistake they have made?
Snowboy said:
It’s one thing to have a kid given a lift by a known teacher in their Volvo.It’s quite another to be told after the fact that your kid got a lift by some random teacher in a chaved up corsa.
So putting some alloy wheels on a car now makes it chavved up in your mind does it? You are aware of wht website you're posting on aren't you?Snowboy said:
Of course people who aren’t parents can post an opinion.
But it’s about as relevant as me posting an opinion on the handling of a Cayman even though I’ve never actually driven one.
I think most of those with kids have some sympathy for the OP insofar as they would be wary of letting an unknown driver in an unknown car drive their children around.
It’s one thing to have a kid given a lift by a known teacher in their Volvo.
It’s quite another to be told after the fact that your kid got a lift by some random teacher in a chaved up corsa.
There are too many people jumping on this thread because they want to be part of a pack of wolves and not enough of them are equipped to consider what it means to be a parent.
Again it was a teacher from the childs school who was trying to do a good thing to ensure the child could go on the school trip, in all probabilities driving a modest renault clio not a chaved corsa. Im not a parent - I do however work with children (outdoor activity instructor) so I am responsible for 100's of childrens lives every single day. I have as much "right" to post on topics involving children as anyone else, as someone above has posted prehaps it is the case that by being a parent you are infact not in a position to give a fair and reasonable assesment of the situation?But it’s about as relevant as me posting an opinion on the handling of a Cayman even though I’ve never actually driven one.
I think most of those with kids have some sympathy for the OP insofar as they would be wary of letting an unknown driver in an unknown car drive their children around.
It’s one thing to have a kid given a lift by a known teacher in their Volvo.
It’s quite another to be told after the fact that your kid got a lift by some random teacher in a chaved up corsa.
There are too many people jumping on this thread because they want to be part of a pack of wolves and not enough of them are equipped to consider what it means to be a parent.
Jamie VTS said:
as someone above has posted prehaps it is the case that by being a parent you are infact not in a position to give a fair and reasonable assesment of the situation?
Which is as absurd as saying that only those that don’t drive should be allowed to decide on the laws of the road.I understand you are in charge of a load of kids and have their wellbeing as your responsibility.
Assuming that 3 kids around the age of 5 needed to be transported from one place to another would you let one of your staff drive them in their own car without booster seats.
Do you have any staff who you wouldn’t let drive them because you couldn’t vouch for their driving skills?
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