School Transportation of P1's
Discussion
fozzymandeus said:
I spent quite a few journeys in the boot of a volvo estate in my childhood (friend's parents, not a teacher). I am still alive, barely.
I spent most journeys from 1979 to 1985 in the boot of a cortina or sierra estate. Edited by fozzymandeus on Monday 21st May 20:19
With 4 kids, plus granny, (making 7 people) any day trip required at least 2 of us to move to the boot.
In the end I had my own bean bag in there.
New POD said:
fozzymandeus said:
I spent quite a few journeys in the boot of a volvo estate in my childhood (friend's parents, not a teacher). I am still alive, barely.
I spent most journeys from 1979 to 1985 in the boot of a cortina or sierra estate. Edited by fozzymandeus on Monday 21st May 20:19
With 4 kids, plus granny, (making 7 people) any day trip required at least 2 of us to move to the boot.
In the end I had my own bean bag in there.
Having said that times have changed. Although I doubt your child was in any more danger than in the mini bus, the law is fairly specific with regards to booster seats, correct insurance etc. I would raise a complaint.
One question, P1? What does that mean?
New POD said:
I spent most journeys from 1979 to 1985 in the boot of a cortina or sierra estate.
With 4 kids, plus granny, (making 7 people) any day trip required at least 2 of us to move to the boot.
In the end I had my own bean bag in there.
In the 80's my Dad made a huge open wooden box for the roof of his Chevette, long before roofboxes were dreamt up. We would reguarly be driven around town sat in it.With 4 kids, plus granny, (making 7 people) any day trip required at least 2 of us to move to the boot.
In the end I had my own bean bag in there.
On the subject of the teachers insurance, why the big deal other then obviously needing it for form filling purposes? If they had an accident whilst being transported in the Clio with non standard alloys and tragically died would the payout from the correct cover bring your child back?
I generally think parents should give schools the benefit of the doubt, to be honest. I would consider a normal car safer than a minibus, especially those god-awful LDV things from the 70s.
Insurance isn't your concern, it's the school's. Non-standard alloy wheels are irrelevant.
The only thing remiss is that a 5-year-old should be in an appropriate seat. I would photocopy the relevant section of the law (eg http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/law/index.htm#kids... , and send a letter to the head saying that you appreciate them running the trip, but would ask that they use the legally-required car seat in future, and that you are happy to bring your child's seat in to school on the day if they let you know.
Insurance isn't your concern, it's the school's. Non-standard alloy wheels are irrelevant.
The only thing remiss is that a 5-year-old should be in an appropriate seat. I would photocopy the relevant section of the law (eg http://www.childcarseats.org.uk/law/index.htm#kids... , and send a letter to the head saying that you appreciate them running the trip, but would ask that they use the legally-required car seat in future, and that you are happy to bring your child's seat in to school on the day if they let you know.
Saabhonda said:
Hi All,
My 5 year old was going on his first school trip, There are 19 kids in the class and so the school decided it would be a good idea to use 2 of the teachers own cars as the mini bus was full. My child ended up in the back seat with 2 other children with no booster/child seats. The car was a 02 Clio with non standard alloy wheels and driven by an older teacher.
I would rather my child was raped, RAPED than them be driven around in a Renault Clio with aftermarket alloys and technically incorrect insurance paperwork. My 5 year old was going on his first school trip, There are 19 kids in the class and so the school decided it would be a good idea to use 2 of the teachers own cars as the mini bus was full. My child ended up in the back seat with 2 other children with no booster/child seats. The car was a 02 Clio with non standard alloy wheels and driven by an older teacher.
Powerrr said:
I seen P1's and thought about Impreza's.
Backtobasics said:
I read the title expecting to hear about some school using impreza p1's as transport. I was going to sign my daughter up straight away!
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Backtobasics said:
I read the title expecting to hear about some school using impreza p1's as transport. I was going to sign my daughter up straight away!
[/pic]Several points.
Firstly Teacher may have been insured. Would be wrong to make assumptions.
Secondly, There is an exemption about booster cushions where the use is unexpected (taxis).
Thirdly, if said child was in the minibus - would they have had a booster cushion (bet not!)
I was curious about anyone driving the kids needing to be CRB checked. A few years ago when the step-lad was at primary school a group of dads often gave lifts to groups of kids to away games. Having said that I think perhaps something came out to bring this sort of stuff within CRB coverage after then.
I'm crap at being an overeager parent, so just don't see the problem other than questionable taste of aftermaket alloys on a Clio.
Firstly Teacher may have been insured. Would be wrong to make assumptions.
Secondly, There is an exemption about booster cushions where the use is unexpected (taxis).
Thirdly, if said child was in the minibus - would they have had a booster cushion (bet not!)
I was curious about anyone driving the kids needing to be CRB checked. A few years ago when the step-lad was at primary school a group of dads often gave lifts to groups of kids to away games. Having said that I think perhaps something came out to bring this sort of stuff within CRB coverage after then.
I'm crap at being an overeager parent, so just don't see the problem other than questionable taste of aftermaket alloys on a Clio.
ArmaghMan said:
billzeebub said:
throughout my school going days im the late 80s and 90s I would regularly be given lifts in teachers cars, both during school hours and after. It was just part of a normal day. My parents were largely thankful and appreciative. However times and attitudes have obviously moved on necesitating the curtailment of such practices.
Well saidNext time draw names from a hat and tell the unlucky 3 that they cant go because some parents complained last time.
I would tell the class whose parents it was too.
billzeebub said:
Indeed the only shocking thing in the OPs post was that the Headmaster apologised! He should have just sternly pointed at the exit
cant agree more, i often give lifts to other friends kids, when the school has away match's. obviously the parents have give permission direct to me not the school so not an issue. but get real as long as you know where your kids are, or they are in school care, just get on with your lifeWas there another adult in the car, front passenger seat?
I volunteer for a youth organisation and part of our training states that even though we are Enhanced CRB cleared (as a teacher would also be), we must never put ourselves in a situation where we are alone with a child/children.
When I was at school in the 90s, I also used to get a lift home from a teacher. No one batted an eyelid then. Few years after I left the school, turns out he was being investigated for having kiddy pics on his home PC.. etc.
Nothing ever happened to me, I dodged a bullet there I think.
I volunteer for a youth organisation and part of our training states that even though we are Enhanced CRB cleared (as a teacher would also be), we must never put ourselves in a situation where we are alone with a child/children.
When I was at school in the 90s, I also used to get a lift home from a teacher. No one batted an eyelid then. Few years after I left the school, turns out he was being investigated for having kiddy pics on his home PC.. etc.
Nothing ever happened to me, I dodged a bullet there I think.
There are lots of people who rode in cars in silly ways when younger and were fine.
There were lots who aren’t fine though, who don’t post on the internet because they are dead or brain damaged.
I wonder how many people who are posting unfriendly replies have kids.
I wonder how many of them would be happy to let a complete stranger drive their kids around.
You know that idiot that’s always in the wrong lane on roundabouts – what if that’s the teacher.
How about the old duffer who ignored the brake advisory on his car 11 months ago on the MOT.
I’m with the OP.
I would not want any kid of mine being driven around by a random teacher in their own car without any sort of discussion about it first.
There were lots who aren’t fine though, who don’t post on the internet because they are dead or brain damaged.
I wonder how many people who are posting unfriendly replies have kids.
I wonder how many of them would be happy to let a complete stranger drive their kids around.
You know that idiot that’s always in the wrong lane on roundabouts – what if that’s the teacher.
How about the old duffer who ignored the brake advisory on his car 11 months ago on the MOT.
I’m with the OP.
I would not want any kid of mine being driven around by a random teacher in their own car without any sort of discussion about it first.
Snowboy said:
There are lots of people who rode in cars in silly ways when younger and were fine.
There were lots who aren’t fine though, who don’t post on the internet because they are dead or brain damaged.
I wonder how many people who are posting unfriendly replies have kids.
I wonder how many of them would be happy to let a complete stranger drive their kids around.
You know that idiot that’s always in the wrong lane on roundabouts – what if that’s the teacher.
How about the old duffer who ignored the brake advisory on his car 11 months ago on the MOT.
I’m with the OP.
I would not want any kid of mine being driven around by a random teacher in their own car without any sort of discussion about it first.
But your childs teacher is not a stranger? They are someone whos job it is to look after the well being of your children for 6 hours a day 5 days a week. I would agree that had they flagged down passing motorists or stuck them on the bus that would be wrong.There were lots who aren’t fine though, who don’t post on the internet because they are dead or brain damaged.
I wonder how many people who are posting unfriendly replies have kids.
I wonder how many of them would be happy to let a complete stranger drive their kids around.
You know that idiot that’s always in the wrong lane on roundabouts – what if that’s the teacher.
How about the old duffer who ignored the brake advisory on his car 11 months ago on the MOT.
I’m with the OP.
I would not want any kid of mine being driven around by a random teacher in their own car without any sort of discussion about it first.
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