RE: Unofficial Defender concept keeps it simple
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This is a good effort at least AS good as the DC100 thing...not sure about the side window, seems too shallow...
As others have said though, why change the aesthetic at all?
maybe smooth out some rough edges and reduce some panel gaps, update the electrics/lights - just finesse it... but really leave it alone...take a stand, it's utilatarian and it's become a style icon because of this, it's a not a follower, or dictated by, fashion...
As others have said though, why change the aesthetic at all?
maybe smooth out some rough edges and reduce some panel gaps, update the electrics/lights - just finesse it... but really leave it alone...take a stand, it's utilatarian and it's become a style icon because of this, it's a not a follower, or dictated by, fashion...
Such a shame, I can see the resemblance to its great grand-dad - the series one,its grand-dad - the series two, and its father the Defender, bit i simply dont like the look. It seems to have been to Americanised. Yes I know that they want to sell 400.000 per year like the Toyota Pike-lux, but there is so much heritage that may be lost. I am also aware that things have to evolve, but..............
Will be sticking to my Double-cab me thinks!
Will be sticking to my Double-cab me thinks!
I do not really see the problem .
If Mercedes can revamp the G waggon which arguably was a landy copy anyway
in appearance why can LR not update it with modern comfort and most of
all an auto gearbox of which has kept their sales of present vehicle low .
I was told some years ago that it was only the purists at LR that was stopping
a Defender with auto box being produced
If Mercedes can revamp the G waggon which arguably was a landy copy anyway
in appearance why can LR not update it with modern comfort and most of
all an auto gearbox of which has kept their sales of present vehicle low .
I was told some years ago that it was only the purists at LR that was stopping
a Defender with auto box being produced
tiskev said:
I do not really see the problem .
If Mercedes can revamp the G waggon which arguably was a landy copy anyway
in appearance why can LR not update it with modern comfort and most of
all an auto gearbox of which has kept their sales of present vehicle low .
I was told some years ago that it was only the purists at LR that was stopping
a Defender with auto box being produced
The purists have been holding back the Defender for years!If Mercedes can revamp the G waggon which arguably was a landy copy anyway
in appearance why can LR not update it with modern comfort and most of
all an auto gearbox of which has kept their sales of present vehicle low .
I was told some years ago that it was only the purists at LR that was stopping
a Defender with auto box being produced
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" they proclaim. But it IS broke. It's not kept up with the world, and sales are much lower than they need to be.
I think some of the comments are very harsh;
Smith hasn't suggested he's engineered in a structure that complies with crash legislation - that's the beauty of a concept (didn't hear too many people moaning about Jaguars latest efforts...)
Anyone who has owned or driven a Defender or it predecessors knows it is function over form, great at what it does but not good to drive (driver space and comfort is particularly poor).
Why not keep a pared down Defender as a lower rung model, with no 'options' of a/c etc, and something like Smiths concept as the next step on the ladder (like the way Renault kept on the old 5 and Clio when new models were introduced)?
That way, LR will still be able to keep on the Defender (as long as it complies with crash tests and emissions) which is surely money in the bank; little or no new tooling, and a cheaper pared down model could be sold to export markets like Africa etc where such considerations don't (seem) to exist.
Smith hasn't suggested he's engineered in a structure that complies with crash legislation - that's the beauty of a concept (didn't hear too many people moaning about Jaguars latest efforts...)
Anyone who has owned or driven a Defender or it predecessors knows it is function over form, great at what it does but not good to drive (driver space and comfort is particularly poor).
Why not keep a pared down Defender as a lower rung model, with no 'options' of a/c etc, and something like Smiths concept as the next step on the ladder (like the way Renault kept on the old 5 and Clio when new models were introduced)?
That way, LR will still be able to keep on the Defender (as long as it complies with crash tests and emissions) which is surely money in the bank; little or no new tooling, and a cheaper pared down model could be sold to export markets like Africa etc where such considerations don't (seem) to exist.
Yorkshirepud said:
thewheelman said:
Not sure the Defender needs a revamp. It's still as popular as ever, why change a winning formula?
Really? You still don't know?It doesn't conform to lots of regulations so has to be canned as they can't sell it legally which means you can't sell it.
dlockhart said:
rhinochopig said:
Sorry, but any idiot can do an exterior, the key to the defender replacement's success is the engineering that sits underneath WRT to durability, legislation compliance, design for manufacturing etc. etc.
your just spoiling the internet by pretending reality exists.What it needs is 35" tyres, 8" lift, full air-locking diffs, chequer plate armour everywhere, bucket seats, portal axles, front and rear winches and an 8 lamp bonnet pod. That should answer the critics
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