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s m
8,101 posts
72 months
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sandersc74 said: s m said: Pretty much an essential first mod for all my friends' 205s ( along with the roaring Lion silhouette mini decals  Even the 105bhp 1.6 got one That is a great picture. TR7......blimey. Taken in '85 - 7 has a V8
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Bencolem
128 posts
108 months
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I had a 1.9 17 years ago when I was 19. Remembered it as the best car I ever had (until I wrote it off). Couple of years ago a new neighbour moved it and had a mint 1.6 in the garage. I persuaded him to let me have a drive. I hated it. The front end was absolutely keyed into the tarmac, super direct, super fast and super grippy. The back end felt like it had a central rear wheel only - and that on a castor it was so mobile. This has nothing to do with the 1.6 vs 1.9 debate and perhaps the car was poorly set-up but it destroyed my memories of my favourite car!
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JdmRacer
40 posts
19 months
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I had a 1.6 gti bought it with money i saved up and conformation money so much fun it was completely mad espically when your 12-13 years old at the time  Never had or driven a 1.9 so can't comment on which is best
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SSBB
506 posts
25 months
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JdmRacer said: I had a 1.6 gti bought it with money i saved up and conformation money so much fun it was completely mad espically when your 12-13 years old at the time Never had or driven a 1.9 so can't comment on which is best Uhh, your profile says you had a 106 gti, not a 1.6 gti...
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Rammstein
1 posts
25 months
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Best and fastest designer hand bags in the world back then
And the link with the Group B 205 T16 made many people buy one.
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carmadlad
6 posts
74 months
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You are right! in 1991 i was fortunate enough to buy a near new black 1990 1.9 gti (130 bhp pre cat model G600SVL where are you now?) as you say every one said the 1.6 was the best so i had a test drive in both and went straight for the 1.9,all my mates had XR3i`s etc and at first they did not think much of the little French Pug, until they went in it or i left them for dead! i never regretted my decision,such a fast responsive drive it was as though this little car was a part of you! and so long as you drove it with some respect?? it would not bite back, yes i had a few close shaves early on in my ownership and it had the usual suspension problems with drop links failing etc bits of trim creaking and falling off and at times a rough tick over! but who cares when it puts a smile on your face every time you go for a drive! longest i ever kept a car too 1991 to 1995...http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/imgs/12.gif
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XJR9LM
13 posts
36 months
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I had 3 205 GTis in the early 90s and did over 150000 miles in them. In my view the 1.9 was definitely the one to have. It's got everything the 1.6 has got and then more. My only disappointment was that Peugeot didn't stick the 16v lump in it as it could definitely have handled more power.
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s m
8,101 posts
72 months
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XJR9LM said: I had 3 205 GTis in the early 90s and did over 150000 miles in them. In my view the 1.9 was definitely the one to have. It's got everything the 1.6 has got and then more. My only disappointment was that Peugeot didn't stick the 16v lump in it as it could definitely have handled more power. Gutmann did quite a few conversions on the 205 Peugeot did a factory 309 GTi-16
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tommy1973s
102 posts
40 months
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dunno about the 205, but i had a 90bhp carb Santana, also 8v and 16v Golfs; and my fav was the roly-poly 90bhp carb Santana - against a stopwatch, far slower, of course; but carbs sounded great, tall suspension couldn't be bottomed out on any surface, long wheelbase was forgiving if you overcooked it, 3rd gear was longer and suited the bends better and you always had to drive the nuts off it. with the more powerful GTis, you were faster with less effort, but on basis of my VW experiences, i'd keep an open mind about the 1.6 205 being more fun than the 1.9, if not necessarily better or faster.
similar story with gen 1 MX5s; some prefer the slower 1.6 over the torquier 1.8.
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dern
12,790 posts
148 months
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A bit late to this but had a 1.6 (the wife's) and a 1.9 (mine) at the same time. I preferred the 1.9 because it was better in nearly every respect the most important being it was more fun to drive.
Mark
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bigaoi
27 posts
26 months
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Never driven either of the GTi's, but a slightly stiffer, slightly grippier, slightly faster XS sounds wonderful = GTi 1.6.
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kikiturbo
111 posts
96 months
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alancovkid
55 posts
36 months
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Another can of worms to open! I liked the 205 GTi's both 1600 and 1900 versions as i worked for a Peugeot dealer when they were new, But thought the 309 GTi handled a lot better when too near the limit. found the 205 a bit too keen on swapping ends  mind you when did you last see a 309 GTi?
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valverguy
338 posts
44 months
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Had the 1.9 8v on a 1.6 gearbox and it was very quick. Why they put that gearbox in the 1.9gti is beyond me. It turned my pug from a good car into a great car. Never actualy driven the 1.6 however
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alancovkid
55 posts
36 months
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Another can of worms to open! I liked the 205 GTi's both 1600 and 1900 versions as i worked for a Peugeot dealer when they were new, But thought the 309 GTi handled a lot better when too near the limit. found the 205 a bit too keen on swapping ends mind you when did you last see a 309 GTi?
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alancovkid
55 posts
36 months
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Another can of worms to open! I liked the 205 GTi's both 1600 and 1900 versions as i worked for a Peugeot dealer when they were new, But thought the 309 GTi handled a lot better when too near the limit. found the 205 a bit too keen on swapping ends mind you when did you last see a 309 GTi?
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r1ch
2,180 posts
65 months
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The reason why you don't see 309s (apart from they didn't sell as well as the 205) is that they seem to rust much worse than the 205. You'd think they'd be treated to the same galvanizing process as the 205 but I don't know, seem to be rusty as hell.
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sjabrown
459 posts
29 months
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Very few 309 GTIs left compared to 205s - something like 2200 taxed 205 GTIs compared to barely 150 309s.
I've looked at a couple of 309s in the last year but both were a bit too crusty to take on.
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s m
8,101 posts
72 months
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alancovkid said: mind you when did you last see a 309 GTi? This evening - there's a Goodwood that lives nearby. Here's my old one 
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sideways danny
11 posts
31 months
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I've owned 5 205GTI's, the 1.9 is so far ahead of the 1.6 I can't see why anyone would question it. I still own one of each, and the 1.6 had to be revved so much harder to get going, it's just hard work to drive quick
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