RE: Tell me I'm wrong: Peugeot 205 GTI

RE: Tell me I'm wrong: Peugeot 205 GTI

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phil m

6 posts

156 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I had a 1.6 GTI and 2 1.9 GTI's and would go for the 1.9 every time, Although I did have less problems with the 1.6.

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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We are talking about the 205 GTi? The car that was made than thinner metal than you find on a coke can! The same GTi that had really really horrible plastics that would scuff up as soon as you touched it or where the carpet was so badly made, read st, that it wore through after a few thousand miles.? You know that GTi that, if you where unfortunate enough to order a sun roof, would ensure you got drenched even if it was just spitting? Take the rose tinted classes of people.

petrolsniffer

2,461 posts

174 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I thought this artical would be about how you prefer your xs tongue out

Owning a 1.6 (currently forsale) its a very fun car to hustle down a b road but I have no doubt the 1.9 is a better all rounder motorway journeys were always tedious I had to travel around 100miles to brum 50mph all the way trying to save fuel wasn't fun.

nick_mcuk

489 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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sandersc74 said:
A lot of interesting comments on here.

Few points:

For any 205, the back end can overtake you when pushed hard, put some decent rubber on the back.
Lift of oversteer and its plenty easy to catch and drift smile

sandersc74 said:
The alloys on a 1.9 make the 205 look way more appealing visually than a 1.6 and looks to sit lower.
The 1.9 is actully lower I have a side by side picture of mine next to a friends 1.6 mine is deffo lower and bot are standard cars.

sandersc74 said:
850kgs is quick, but you need strong forearms on country roads.
It aint that bad ffs...man up or get down the gym biggrin

sandersc74 said:
1.9 all the way IMO.
Oh f**k yeah!


sandersc74 said:
ps There is no way that the 309 is a good looking car. Someone post a picture from the rear of a 309. Sooped up taxi. ;-)
Correct was always refered to as the ugly sister.....handled slightly better but they all rotted away.....was never as popular as the 205 ever!

Sexual Chocolate said:
We are talking about the 205 GTi? The car that was made than thinner metal than you find on a coke can! The same GTi that had really really horrible plastics that would scuff up as soon as you touched it or where the carpet was so badly made, read st, that it wore through after a few thousand miles.? You know that GTi that, if you where unfortunate to order a sun roof, would ensure you got drenched even if it was just spitting? Take the rose tinted classes of people.
24 years and my 136k mile one is fine next to no rattles or squeaks....some BS being spouted there!

OlberJ

14,101 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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1.6 had wider front track IIRC.

Seemed to do that pull you round a croner action, post apex much nicer than the 1.9.

5678

6,146 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I had a 1.9. All my friends who had 1.6 versions were jealous.

I remember the first time I drove one and remember thinking it was like a rocket ship!

Much prefer the mk1 dashboard to that of the mk2 as well.

spad78

149 posts

176 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Having written off both in my youth, I can say they were both awesome, 1.9 was faster, cooler and had a more glamorous ending. I have thought about picking one up but juding by the classifieds, lots of people have had the same thought.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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NHK244V said:
News to me ? never heard the 1.6 was better?
Regularly spouted by those who couldn't afford the 1.9. hehe

There was a chap I knew in school who had the 1.6 - turned up the next day wearing 1.9 badges of the D pillar - when queried about it he said the car had had an engine transplant....
scratchchin



Anyway, there appears to be an increasing trend these days - mainly amongst motoring writers (and wannabee motoring writers i.e. forum contributors) - of stating that "XXXX [unexpected model] is actually sweeter than YYYY [better/more expensive model]" as if holding this opinion somehow marks them out as a connoisseur/motoring expert.

You can usually spot it by the use of the term 'sweeter', which they deliberately use as it is such a vague (& subjective) adjective, that can't really be argued against.

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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nick_mcuk said:
24 years and my 136k mile one is fine next to no rattles or squeaks....some BS being spouted there!
BS eh? Interesting. I bought one from new. Brand NEW! The list of faults I had with mine was endless. All of the above plus more. I was not alone in this either. A friend also got a used demo one and he had more or less the exact same faults. Sun roof leaking, plastics are just cheap, electric windows screwing up, back box rusting after 3 months. These are just a few I can remember from my not long lasting happy 205GTi ownership days. And are you telling me that yours is made than thicker metal than a coke can?

NAS

2,543 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Chris Harris said:
whereas the 1.9 only existed to shorten your time on this planet.
Yup. This was my LHD (!) 1.9.


sandersc74

20 posts

168 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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sandersc74 said:
850kgs is quick, but you need strong forearms on country roads.
It aint that bad ffs...man up or get down the gym biggrin

Apologies, was talking about mine.
Trust me, mine is 240bhp in a FWD car = torque steer. And it has power steering.
Mind you, you grin from ear to ear when you hear those throttle bodies and trumpets and the acceleration is nuts.

djon

409 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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fioran0 said:
djon said:
Both were fun but tinny. 1.9 did pull well, but still prefer the 8v MK2 Golf GTI personally, especially in Oak green...
at the time, the problem with the MK2 golf gti was that you didnt want one of them if you were young and had a choice. there wasnt ever a time when a mk2 golf was fast and cool...... and you needed both.
i personally think the design is aging very well but i wouldnt have been seen dead in one when it was in its day. a golf rallye was the golf to have.
Subjective, a bit like Top Gear's cool wall... The Golf was much cooler than the Pug in my youth. getmecoat

AlexKing

613 posts

158 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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tim milne said:
A simple scan of the classifieds will show you that 1.6's are cheaper than 1.9's...sometimes by a fair margin.

Maybe journalists are the ONLY people who think the 1.6 is better. So, maybe this story isn't about Peugeots at all, maybe it's about journos and their desire to appear smarter / better informed than mere mortals–even if they're subsequently proved wrong?
Yes.

Dion20vt

252 posts

162 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I had a 1.9 with a 1.6 Gearbox conversion, Was pretty rapid!! smile

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Had 1.6 white, alot of fun but the hunting tick over and the lack of tick over every now and in opportune traffic/junction just drove me into the obvious replacement, there's no replacement for displacement, a graphite metallic 1.9. In every regard superior. Had it for 7 years, only sold it after 55k ballistic miles later as the sills were just beginning to go and only when trader test drove it and told me it was dangerous did I realise the front diff was going and the go kart handling and direction change was actually unequal length drive shafts and the aforementioned errant diff getting progressively worse. It probably would have killed me, and that would have been alright as the 1.8 A3 I replaced it with, which was as quiet as a library and about the same in perfirmance and dynamism (as a library), probably but at the time it was nice not to spend long journeys trying to figure which piece of interior trim was making today's annoying rattle.

That said I saw one a few months ago and was shocked by how thin the doors were. Side impact protection for puffs right?

Anyway 1.9 best hot hatch IMHO.

Now what about some gratuitous pics of a Dimma kitted cars. I thought they were smart, when I was the right age, to appreciate such things.

Wah

47 posts

166 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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The hacks back in the day were clearly in error. Afterall, only Clarkson is always right.....

750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Sexual Chocolate said:
You know that GTi that, if you where unfortunate enough to order a sun roof, would ensure you got drenched even if it was just spitting?
842616: Sun roof seal: Sorted!!

Fek knows how remember that one... wink

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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My recollection of what hacks said back in the day was more that the 1.9 was more jerky and therefore less nice to drive than the 1.6 erather than anything top do with the handling.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I have to say I like Chris Harris, he's right more often than not, and more right, more often than Clarkson.

LuS1fer

41,135 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Northern Munkee said:
I have to say I like Chris Harris, he's right more often than not, and more right, more often than Clarkson.
So is a trained monkey - at least re Clarkson on TV, not necessarily so in print when he steps back and makes more reasoned arguments.