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kiteless
6,284 posts
73 months
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Utterly mesmerising stuff, and a huge  to the gearbox for lasting that long
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russy01
2,079 posts
50 months
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jon- said: Don't get it. It's a great race lap, everything it should be, but that wasn't a 10/10ths lap like some of the single shot timed laps we see. I'm not saying I could do better, I'm not saying he isn't MASSIVELY skilled (he is), but to my eyes that was a very safe race lap, not really exploring the limits of the car in many places. It was a near perfect lap for what it was meant to be (don't break the car, put in a good time) but there wasn't many places where I thought "f  k me, that was close to being in the wall" Of course I could be talking crap as I so often do. Erm they kind of have to do it for 24hrs. Plus the fastests laps are the smoothest laps.
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Zajda
46 posts
16 months
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jon- said: It was a near perfect lap for what it was meant to be (don't break the car, put in a good time) but there wasn't many places where I thought "f k me, that was close to being in the wall" Of course I could be talking crap as I so often do. You answered it yourself. Not only they must find balance between speed and risk, but I suppose no one can be fully concentrated for several hours to do one flatout lap after another, slower traffic needs extra caution also. And last but not least - even when you give away a possibility of drivers or technical error, you actually will be slower with flatout driving in endurance race - simply because of your fuel consumption.
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xcat
126 posts
60 months
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I haven't seen the vid yet, as I'm at work and Big Bruv doesn't allow it!
Having driven and finished 3rd in class twice! In a Caterham 7!
You simply can't go flat out all the time.You get into a rythum (sp?) and stick to it the best you can. Trying not to loose too much time letting faster cars past AND not getting caught behind slower cars - which at night is quite easy to do. For the two races I did, all 4 drivers were lapping within about 1 min of each other!! Obviously depending on traffic. It was the pace all 4 of us decided (independantly, just the gut feeling) that would take the car to the finish. The hardest thing for me personnally was trying to keep count of the laps I had done!!! I never did crack that one!
Gearboxes!! ours began to loose the syncro for 3rd late Sunday morning both times, before going completely - we finished without 3rd lol
Absolutely terrifying at night and it could get very lonely, with only the shift lights for company.
As you drive into daylight, the number of wrecks around the circuit is astonishing, things you missed during the dark.
Mark
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ian_touring
465 posts
74 months
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Wow that was impressive! Tiergarten, Swallow's tail and flugplatz looking 10x as scary in the dark. Balls of steel indeed! And for not just one lap, but over and over and over...
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chris116
511 posts
37 months
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 I admit I nearly closed my eyes when the backmarker braked in front of him on the approach to the Foxhole. Very impressive.
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Baryonyx
6,881 posts
28 months
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jon- said: Don't get it. It's a great race lap, everything it should be, but that wasn't a 10/10ths lap like some of the single shot timed laps we see. I'm not saying I could do better, I'm not saying he isn't MASSIVELY skilled (he is), but to my eyes that was a very safe race lap, not really exploring the limits of the car in many places. It was a near perfect lap for what it was meant to be (don't break the car, put in a good time) but there wasn't many places where I thought "f k me, that was close to being in the wall" It's an endurance race. It's not the time or the place to be exploring the limits of the car. It needs smooth, consistent driving and concentration. A car in a 24hr race that is driven on the edge will not finish. Someone will make a mistake, especially as fatigue sets in. Top class drive from a superb driver. Very well done!
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Kawasicki
1,520 posts
104 months
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PascalBuyens said: jon- said: Don't get it. It's a great race lap, everything it should be, but that wasn't a 10/10ths lap like some of the single shot timed laps we see. I'm not saying I could do better, I'm not saying he isn't MASSIVELY skilled (he is), but to my eyes that was a very safe race lap, not really exploring the limits of the car in many places. It was a near perfect lap for what it was meant to be (don't break the car, put in a good time) but there wasn't many places where I thought "f k me, that was close to being in the wall" Of course I could be talking crap as I so often do. It's a 24hr race, no one is going to go flat out all the time in all the places during those races. In a modern 24 hour (or any endurance race) winning is about being flat out all the time. I agree that the driver may not of been absolutely going for it, but he is doing a fine job. There are a few different types of endurance racer. The flat out all the time driver will win, but may be involved in an accident or may have mechanical issues. The flat out type win because there are now so many of them and mechanical reliability is now so good. Other drivers can be just as skilled, but may have good reasons to be more conservative, I was always held back by the thought of financial pain. If someone else was paying for accident repairs, I would be a little faster/more competitive.
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JTRacelogic
79 posts
124 months
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That is a very quick lap, the best lap display (in red) changes from a 9:05.14 to 8:59.63 as he crosses the line, so nearly 6 seconds quicker than they had achieved in all the laps previously. The title of the video also says 'Fastest lap', so it was the quickest for the whole race, even more impressive considering it was dark.
He carries a lot of speed into the corners, and then is very early on the throttle giving a very good speed down the straights. If you are sliding and clipping curbs as you exit, you will lose loads of time all the way down the next straight.
I run a predictive lap timer in my car, and when I mess up slightly on the exit of a corner, I can see a couple of tenths drop off immediately, then as I accelerate down the straight, the time slowly counts up, there's nothing I can do about it, and by the end of the straight I may have lost well over 1s...This certainly concentrates the mind on getting out of the corner as quickly and cleanly as possible!
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r7ehw
107 posts
106 months
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Awesome but absolutely terrifying.
Nerves of steel.
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JonnyFive
26,734 posts
58 months
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Incredible lap.. This is the difference between knowing the circuit and not knowing the circuit. He could drive it with his eyes closed, knows what corner is coming next, where to put the car, where to get on the loud one etc.
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p1doc
1,825 posts
53 months
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Baryonyx said: Top class drive from a superb driver. Very well done! exactly imagine 120+laps of this,my second time spectating this year-superb as always with some nice exotica carreragt aston 177 etc just parked like normal cars and not hidden away dorint car park full of astons was amazing martin
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GrahamG
1,005 posts
136 months
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cliffie said: 8:40 BtoG in the daylight is about as fast as I have ever managed, that makes me realise why some get paid to do it and mortals like us should stick with tourist Days. If that time was a Tourist lap cliffie then it likely didn't include the GP loop which this one did!
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GrahamG
1,005 posts
136 months
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YorkshirePudding said: LouD86 said: That, was impressive! Sorry to sound thick, but whats the blue flashing light for?? To let the slower cars know there is a car in the top 20 behind them. Correct - but this year it was the 40 fastest - all the GT3s, the Lexus, Glickenhaus P4/5 and the fastest of the Cup Class Porsches - of which this was one
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mat205125
14,769 posts
82 months
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That is mind bogglingly impressive.
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BigNige
2,584 posts
93 months
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Agree And I didn't know that the new circuit was connected to the old one - kewl. 
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vescaegg
2,108 posts
36 months
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GrahamG said: cliffie said: 8:40 BtoG in the daylight is about as fast as I have ever managed, that makes me realise why some get paid to do it and mortals like us should stick with tourist Days. If that time was a Tourist lap cliffie then it likely didn't include the GP loop which this one did! True! Thats rediculous. The GP circuit is very rarely connected to the Nordschliefe for track days. I think a few companies get a few rare days where you can do the whole thing.
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cadoganpier
27 posts
52 months
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I've done the 24hrs 5 times and like your earlier poster said we would try and find a time that we could all stick to that was quick enough to be competitive but not destroy the car, for example one year driving a Grp A E36 M3 we knocked it back to around 10:00 a lap ( from a 9:45 in qualifying) from memory. The trick I always found at the ring was momentum, be quick in the quick bits and slow in the slow bits, it sounds obvious but trying to hustle and scratch through the slow bits wears things out, the amount of cars that lunch drive shafts because drivers try and make up .5sec through the carousel never ceased to amaze me, jumping out of there puts a lot of stress on a car, especially on production based transmissions running on slicks. Sounds easy.......
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Seb d
450 posts
66 months
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JTRacelogic said: The title of the video also says 'Fastest lap', so it was the quickest for the whole race Actually the fastest race lap was 8:27 and change, so this must have been the fastest night time lap.
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Baron Greenback
1,291 posts
19 months
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Awesome vid!
love the Youtube comment!
Thumbs up if Pistonheads brought you here
rikkiola 22 hours ago 14 so far!
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