RE: Is Volvo working on a secret M3 rival?
Discussion
As much as I like and respect fast volvos (850R, T5 etc), they will NEVER be able to match the german opposition for chassis balance, handling and all out driving fun.
Yes, they will be quick, solid, well-built and safe.
But, they have tried in the past and failed, and my fear is they will do that again.
Yes, they will be quick, solid, well-built and safe.
But, they have tried in the past and failed, and my fear is they will do that again.
pSyCoSiS said:
As much as I like and respect fast volvos (850R, T5 etc), they will NEVER be able to match the german opposition for chassis balance, handling and all out driving fun.
Yes, they will be quick, solid, well-built and safe.
But, they have tried in the past and failed, and my fear is they will do that again.
Never you say... not even if Lotus does the chassis?Yes, they will be quick, solid, well-built and safe.
But, they have tried in the past and failed, and my fear is they will do that again.
And bear in mind they are linked to Fords and those handle rather well.
And by German you mean BMW I'm sure, cause Mercs don't handle all that well and Audis still leave a lot to be desired (which is weird for a AWD car)
mat777 said:
Why do the manufacturers allow them to get away with said slander? 
Beacuse, as someone else pointed, for an average driver it is true. And was even more so in the years past when cars had no electronic nannies to straighten out smaller errors so problems were further hightlighted.Today people go the other way. They thing ESP and other 3 letter system will save them no matter what they do.
Sorry if this has already been posted but:
Polestar presents Volvo S60 Polestar performance concept
Volvo Cars Official Motorsport and Performance partner Polestar present the Volvo S60 Polestar, a performance concept car developed with the aim of satisfying the performance minded driver. “We are proud to present Polestar’s interpretation of the Volvo S60” says Christian Dahl, founder and CEO of Polestar. “It’s a car developed with our own preferences in mind which, we from experience know, are shared by a group of active drivers”
The main focus when developing the car has been to combine a comfortable genuine Volvo driving experience with a high level of power and handling. The Volvo T6 engine has been tuned to deliver a considerable increase in power and torque. This, in combination with a lowered, widened and reinforced chassis together with a tuned Haldex all-wheel drive system and Öhlins suspension makes the car suitable for both high performance driving and long distance travelling.
Robert Dahlgren, Volvo Polestar racing driver, comments the driving experience: “to me the Volvo S60 is a very well sorted car from start. In our concept car we have developed chassis, engine and transmission just like we want it, and the result is a huge leap forward in terms of handling and performance. It is, by far, the most impressive street Volvo I’ve ever driven. But I must also say that the genuine Volvo feeling is still there. “
The car presented at Gothenburg CityArena is the first car built for one specific client. A small series of Polestar modified S60s may be built pending market response;
“Polestar’s heart and soul is motorsport and our main focus is to deliver the absolute best results for Volvo on the track” say’s Christian Dahl. “But over the years we have also seen a significant increase in demand for Volvo performance cars and parts and naturally we want to respond to this.”
Technical specification
Performance
■0-100 km/h 3.9s
■Top speed more than 300km/h
Engine
■Volvo T6 inline six (B6304T4)
■508 hp @ 6500rpm
■575Nm @ 5500rpm
■Max rpm: 7100
■Modified cylinder head and combustion chambers
■Modified inlet manifold and air intake
■Special manufactured conrods
■Garret 3171 turbo
■Ferrita 3.5” stainless steel exhaust system
Drive train
■Reinforced M66C (close ratio) manual 6-speed gear box.
■Haldex E-LSD in rear
■Haldex Gen4 XWD
Chassis
■Tires 265/30R19
■Rims Polestar 9,5X19”
■Chassis lowered 30mm
■Öhlins 3- way shock absorbers
■Reinforced anti-roll bar front and rear
■Track width increased 20 mm front and 40 mm rear
■Polestar-tuned EHPAS steering
■Stabilising X- members, front and rear.
■Modified control-arms with uniballs front and rear.
■Reinforced bushings in sub-frame and control-arms
■Modified engine mounts
Weight
■Total weight 1640kg and optimized weight distribution
Brakes
■Front Polestar-Brembo 6 piston calipers, 380 mm ventilated discs
■Rear Polestar-Volvo calipers, 302 mm ventilated discs
■Brake cooling air intakes from front
Aerodynamics
■Based on tests in Volvo’s wind-tunnel
■Lowered front splitter and larger rear spoiler to reduce high speed lift
■Carbon fiber diffusor
■Body 20 mm widened front and rear
Interior
■Polestar designed seats with increased support. Alcantara on all functional areas steering wheel, gear knob, and seats to ensure maximum grip.
■Centre console lowered for optimised gear-lever ergonomics.
Polestar presents Volvo S60 Polestar performance concept
Volvo Cars Official Motorsport and Performance partner Polestar present the Volvo S60 Polestar, a performance concept car developed with the aim of satisfying the performance minded driver. “We are proud to present Polestar’s interpretation of the Volvo S60” says Christian Dahl, founder and CEO of Polestar. “It’s a car developed with our own preferences in mind which, we from experience know, are shared by a group of active drivers”
The main focus when developing the car has been to combine a comfortable genuine Volvo driving experience with a high level of power and handling. The Volvo T6 engine has been tuned to deliver a considerable increase in power and torque. This, in combination with a lowered, widened and reinforced chassis together with a tuned Haldex all-wheel drive system and Öhlins suspension makes the car suitable for both high performance driving and long distance travelling.
Robert Dahlgren, Volvo Polestar racing driver, comments the driving experience: “to me the Volvo S60 is a very well sorted car from start. In our concept car we have developed chassis, engine and transmission just like we want it, and the result is a huge leap forward in terms of handling and performance. It is, by far, the most impressive street Volvo I’ve ever driven. But I must also say that the genuine Volvo feeling is still there. “
The car presented at Gothenburg CityArena is the first car built for one specific client. A small series of Polestar modified S60s may be built pending market response;
“Polestar’s heart and soul is motorsport and our main focus is to deliver the absolute best results for Volvo on the track” say’s Christian Dahl. “But over the years we have also seen a significant increase in demand for Volvo performance cars and parts and naturally we want to respond to this.”
Technical specification
Performance
■0-100 km/h 3.9s
■Top speed more than 300km/h
Engine
■Volvo T6 inline six (B6304T4)
■508 hp @ 6500rpm
■575Nm @ 5500rpm
■Max rpm: 7100
■Modified cylinder head and combustion chambers
■Modified inlet manifold and air intake
■Special manufactured conrods
■Garret 3171 turbo
■Ferrita 3.5” stainless steel exhaust system
Drive train
■Reinforced M66C (close ratio) manual 6-speed gear box.
■Haldex E-LSD in rear
■Haldex Gen4 XWD
Chassis
■Tires 265/30R19
■Rims Polestar 9,5X19”
■Chassis lowered 30mm
■Öhlins 3- way shock absorbers
■Reinforced anti-roll bar front and rear
■Track width increased 20 mm front and 40 mm rear
■Polestar-tuned EHPAS steering
■Stabilising X- members, front and rear.
■Modified control-arms with uniballs front and rear.
■Reinforced bushings in sub-frame and control-arms
■Modified engine mounts
Weight
■Total weight 1640kg and optimized weight distribution
Brakes
■Front Polestar-Brembo 6 piston calipers, 380 mm ventilated discs
■Rear Polestar-Volvo calipers, 302 mm ventilated discs
■Brake cooling air intakes from front
Aerodynamics
■Based on tests in Volvo’s wind-tunnel
■Lowered front splitter and larger rear spoiler to reduce high speed lift
■Carbon fiber diffusor
■Body 20 mm widened front and rear
Interior
■Polestar designed seats with increased support. Alcantara on all functional areas steering wheel, gear knob, and seats to ensure maximum grip.
■Centre console lowered for optimised gear-lever ergonomics.
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