RE: PH Blog: has Zagato finally lost it?

RE: PH Blog: has Zagato finally lost it?

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lazygraduand

1,789 posts

161 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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DJRC said:
Design may be subjective, but anybody who thinks the Hyena and SZ are attrocious should never be let near anything remotely to do with aesthetics. Fortunately that takes care of 99%, Unfortunately it leaves 1% of ppl who the world forgot to castrate and shoot at birth.
Might just be me, but that post went straight over my head!

errek72

943 posts

246 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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lazygraduand said:
Might just be me, but that post went straight over my head!
Sounds like he does not like people that are into styling.

will261058

1,115 posts

192 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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I rather like the BMW Zagato and I think the reason is that it doesnt really look like a Zagato! I was not so keen on what they did to the DB7 which IMO ruined one of the best looking cars ever, and in fact I think most Zagato designs are horrid.

dinkel

26,932 posts

258 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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1960-1967 LANCIA Flaminia Sport Zagato:


Alfa TZ2:


Lancia Bèta Spider Zagato:


1983 Alfa Romeo Zeta Sei (Zagato):


DB4 Zag

soxboy

6,189 posts

219 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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dinkel said:
1983 Alfa Romeo Zeta Sei (Zagato):
Hmm think Porsche may have something to say about that one...

jamieboy

5,910 posts

229 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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PhilipAlfa said:
I could be wrong but I don't think the SZ was actually styled by Zagato - I think they just built it.
yes I think that's true. Styling is closer to Fiat than Zagato, I think.

NGK210

2,911 posts

145 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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dinkel said:
... Lancia Bèta Spider Zagato:
Wasn't the above actually designed by Pininfarina and built (badly) by Zagato; IIRC, the Zagato monicker was a US-only marketing/branding ploy?

xperimental

21 posts

143 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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garypotter said:
Hey S10 GTA the botom picture - is that an AC or an old corvette? or none of the above please
daytona cobra

rm89

348 posts

177 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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Black S2K said:
I have to agree; ItalDesign brought some very clever industrial design to the masses way back then; Sud, Golf, Delta, Uno...

A lot of them are still consulting to major manufacturers.

The strangest is perhapd Pininfarina; from aching beauty though the 1960s to 1980s, then the Peugeot 407?

WTF were they thinking?

407 wasn't done by Pininfarina - was done in-house by Peugeot, hence the rot setting in with their styling across the range.

rm89

348 posts

177 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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The Fulvia Sport Zagato, Alfa Junior Z (the one posted earlier in this thread is STUNNING), Hyena and DB7 Zagato are some of my absolute favourite cars.

There was also a beautiful Vanquish convertible concept done by Zagato in 2004:


I also love the Autech Stelvio for it's absolutely mind-bending nuttiness.

Beaverking

160 posts

144 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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Zagato have made some of the most beautiful cars ever to grace the earth and they have also built some howlers, you can't always get it right but I don't like the proportions of their latest effort, would probably impress in the flesh, you can't really judge a cars looks until you have seen them in the flesh and not many of us have been lucky enough to do so.

Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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Gorbyrev said:


What's not love about that.
It looks like a football boot or a training shoe, I quite like them but compared to the Maserati A6 already posted it's not all there


carinaman

21,284 posts

172 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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I can now see how these points would be lost if they were raised in the other thread.

With the piece on Kahn in a recent edition of CAR Magazine, perhaps there will continue to be a place in the world for Zagato oddities?

I checked out the Hexagon website and looked at their two Zagato Astons. I was unaware of the Chapron DS Coupe. I'm not sure where the sales blurb is going by saying it's raison d'etre has gone due to modern roads.

So Chapron was chopping about with DSs in the 60s, and Clapton has paid Ferrari to design a car just for him. Perhaps Zagato and the like will be around for a while yet?

Edited by carinaman on Friday 1st June 05:16

sjabrown

1,912 posts

160 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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I'll disagree with some posters - I think the fulvia zagato is a thing of beauty.

carinaman

21,284 posts

172 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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I don't find the Fulvia Z too offensive either.

An image of 60s Lancia Z posted earlier made me think of the Jensen CV8.

Carfolio

1,124 posts

181 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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sjabrown said:
I'll disagree with some posters - I think the fulvia zagato is a thing of beauty.
Quite. The Flavia Zagato, on the other hand, may well polarise opinion even more (I still like it).


CooperS

4,503 posts

219 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
MiseryStreak said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
How to make any picture of any car deeply offensive and vomit inducing to any petrolhead: Capture a reflection of a New Beetle in it!
hehe tell me about it, but she wanted it & if it makes her happy then who am i to argue?!
Tell me a about it I have a Z4MC and the fiancée has a IX20....... no kids, no responsibilities but she loves the look, size, lack of any noise in the cabin and I guess the sheer lack of power or involvement to getting from A to B…....

errek72

943 posts

246 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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Carfolio said:
sjabrown said:
I'll disagree with some posters - I think the fulvia zagato is a thing of beauty.
Quite. The Flavia Zagato, on the other hand, may well polarise opinion even more (I still like it).

Even if one would not consider this or any Zagato beautiful, they do not look dull and boring. Which is more then can be said of most cars today, most notably Golfs and 911s

Agoogy

7,274 posts

248 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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The most notable eh....really...scratchchinhehe

dinkel

26,932 posts

258 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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sjabrown said:
I'll disagree with some posters - I think the fulvia zagato is a thing of beauty.
Damn right: http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...