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Grovsie26
1,302 posts
36 months
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Interior looks well nice.
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vit4
3,075 posts
39 months
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Err... sound symposer? Please tell me it isn't noise through the speakers a la F10 M5??
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vit4
3,075 posts
39 months
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Err... sound symposer? Please tell me it isn't noise through the speakers a la F10 M5??
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HurryUpAndWait
734 posts
72 months
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budgie smuggler said: I like that, sounds good 
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D200
161 posts
16 months
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vit4 said: Err... sound symposer? Please tell me it isn't noise through the speakers a la F10 M5?? Have you driven or been in a new m5? if so do you think the noise sounds fake? I have been in one, not driving sadly, but it sounds fab to me and you wouldn't know otherwise unless told. I couldn't care less how the car makes its noise as long as it sounds good & am in full favour of them. This ford one is sounds great. Its a pity all cars don't have them e.g. 911 turbo as you cant really hear the engine at all - just a whoosh of air from turbos etc
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GroundEffect
7,204 posts
25 months
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vit4 said: Err... sound symposer? Please tell me it isn't noise through the speakers a la F10 M5?? It's a diaphragm in the air induction system piped to the cabin. Lots of cars have them.
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tommy vercetti
3,303 posts
32 months
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HurryUpAndWait said: budgie smuggler said: I like that, sounds good +1
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D200
161 posts
16 months
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And it prob costs the equiv of £12k in the USA too I also think front plates aren't mandatory in the USA? Makes all cars look do much nicer And petrol is a LOT cheaper Sods 
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GroundEffect
7,204 posts
25 months
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D200 said: And it prob costs the equiv of £12k in the USA too Not when are localised in Europe and the US. US starting price is $24k.
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D200
161 posts
16 months
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GroundEffect said: D200 said: And it prob costs the equiv of £12k in the USA too Not when are localised in Europe and the US. US starting price is $24k. Fair enough. I guessed it would be 12 but it's approximately 15k then. still a lot cheaper
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FrankyH
54 posts
12 months
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Wouldn't mind one of these in a few years time.
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White Lightning
474 posts
52 months
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ludicrous speed said: I was actually comparing the hatch to the 86/BRZ, i should have made that more clear. For a lot of people that may well be a choice they make when buying a car with a £25k budget. Just wanted to add that I do admire fast estates. To be honest I don't even think the hatchback version is a fair comparison to the BRZ/86. You can buy a new ST-3 for less than 26k, the BRZ/86 are over 27k i believe?? Both cars offer different driving experiences. Although the Toybaru's might be more fun to drive.....the ST is faster, better equipped and cheaper I think its a better compromise. Its a shame really cos i do like the Toybaru's. Just wish they were a a bit faster and a bit cheaper.
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Oddball RS
1,192 posts
87 months
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Both inside and out that car is a mess, was it really styled? or just thrown together?
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r1ch
2,181 posts
65 months
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I really didn't like the shape when I first saw it, but I must say it's really grown on me. I think it would look smarter in a darker colour. The dash is pretty funky, think there are a bit too many buttons though, seems quite fussy.
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y2blade
46,315 posts
84 months
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Have the "But it's wrong wheel drive" idiots turned up yet? 
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SSCooperS
612 posts
33 months
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I don't care how great to drive it is, or how cheap the entry level ST-1 is - it is FUGLY, has a childish interior, and I suspect will not date well at all.
One thing I like about the old ST was how discrete it was (even with the orange paint). This one really is trying far too hard.
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dorme
142 posts
50 months
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r1ch said: I really didn't like the shape when I first saw it, but I must say it's really grown on me. I think it would look smarter in a darker colour. The dash is pretty funky, think there are a bit too many buttons though, seems quite fussy. have a look at the interior of the new astra/vxr's, buttons galore, looks like a calculator! was shocked when i drove a gtc last week. so clinical looking for a hot hatch. 
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stuckmojo
946 posts
57 months
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y2blade said: Have the "But it's wrong wheel drive" idiots turned up yet? No, the Troll has beaten them to it. Back on track, the price is really keen, but in my eyes this looks bloody awful. The last generation ST was the best looking. Actually, the first RS was.
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r1ch
2,181 posts
65 months
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dorme said: have a look at the interior of the new astra/vxr's, buttons galore, looks like a calculator! was shocked when i drove a gtc last week. so clinical looking for a hot hatch. That hurts my head just looking at it. Someone got carried away in the button department I think.
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thetapeworm
4,711 posts
108 months
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I feel dirty for asking this but has anyone seen the boot size of the new ST?
My current ST3 has a really high boot floor due to the spare wheel and this really limits what I can carry in there due to it being so shallow.
Also - is the ST3 still a 4 seater in the new model?
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