RE: PH Fleet: Mazda RX-8
Discussion
Dale Lomas said:
I love how so many people think I would just stop on the track, in the racing line even. Give me some credit... lol...
Well to be fair, you have just said you stopped on a corner on the ring only saying the chap on the bike did wrong... its a public forumn, people will think and say what they like. Main thing is no one was hurt and metal can be fixed.
It's unfortunate timing after the recent thread about the Scandinavian Aesthetic Doctor Doctor regaining the ring after remodelling the Armco and the front of his BMW racing car possibly endangering motorcyclists with his debris.
Grabbing the front brakes on motorcycles while turning is risky. Two of my bike accidents were on the brakes into corners, once when I thought the resurfacing was finished as the signs had gone and once in the wet with other contributory factors besides youth and inexperience. I've also had someone drop a bike after having it stand up under braking on entry to a right, left kink it was fortunate there was no oncoming traffic as they slid across the road to the opposite bank. I've also seen someone on L plates drop a bike on a T junction with a slip road entry. It's safe to assume that if I got a bike again I'd be pulling on the brakes into corners and it all going a bit wrong.
Nice video Dale.
It ties in with the mental outlook thread in the advanced driving PH forum.
It's made me think of the Top Gear piece on Finland and Finnish drivers and how all of their learners have to do skid pan sessions and the report on road fatalities by Dr Jeremy Broughton that mentioned how many young and inexperienced drivers meet their demise when losing control on controls.
Is knowing what to do when one end loses grip relevant to road drivers and road safety?
The RX8 comes out of it well too. What's a good compression reading for one to be considered a long term prospect? I've read that they can go from within the specified parameters to outside in less than a year. A two stroke feed from a tank under the bonnet as well some added to the fuel would make that much difference with regard to maintaining a good seal and compression? They're very tempting for the money.
Grabbing the front brakes on motorcycles while turning is risky. Two of my bike accidents were on the brakes into corners, once when I thought the resurfacing was finished as the signs had gone and once in the wet with other contributory factors besides youth and inexperience. I've also had someone drop a bike after having it stand up under braking on entry to a right, left kink it was fortunate there was no oncoming traffic as they slid across the road to the opposite bank. I've also seen someone on L plates drop a bike on a T junction with a slip road entry. It's safe to assume that if I got a bike again I'd be pulling on the brakes into corners and it all going a bit wrong.
Nice video Dale.
It ties in with the mental outlook thread in the advanced driving PH forum.
It's made me think of the Top Gear piece on Finland and Finnish drivers and how all of their learners have to do skid pan sessions and the report on road fatalities by Dr Jeremy Broughton that mentioned how many young and inexperienced drivers meet their demise when losing control on controls.
Is knowing what to do when one end loses grip relevant to road drivers and road safety?
The RX8 comes out of it well too. What's a good compression reading for one to be considered a long term prospect? I've read that they can go from within the specified parameters to outside in less than a year. A two stroke feed from a tank under the bonnet as well some added to the fuel would make that much difference with regard to maintaining a good seal and compression? They're very tempting for the money.
carinaman said:
What's a good compression reading for one to be considered a long term prospect? I've read that they can go from within the specified parameters to outside in less than a year.
The feeling amongst specialists seems to be that the precipitating factor is undetected coil failure - that car will run OK, but the fuel won't be burning properly and the lubrication will be being washed away.otolith said:
The feeling amongst specialists seems to be that the precipitating factor is undetected coil failure - that car will run OK, but the fuel won't be burning properly and the lubrication will be being washed away.
Thank you otolith. That makes sense. I've seen one advertised with a fault that seems inconsistent or isn't running perfectly and thought it could be the seals and compression gone, but it could be the well known coil failure.
Squirdle/carinaman
The biker had to brake as Dale was stopped and the guy was trying to avoid him he didn't brake mid bend for any other reason I am led to believe, Dale could divulge more but it is now in the hands of the police and insurance companies it seems. I don't understand why you are both blaming the biker??
The biker had to brake as Dale was stopped and the guy was trying to avoid him he didn't brake mid bend for any other reason I am led to believe, Dale could divulge more but it is now in the hands of the police and insurance companies it seems. I don't understand why you are both blaming the biker??
Edited by sonofbarefoot on Thursday 14th June 21:57
sonofbarefoot said:
Squirdle/carinaman
The biker had to brake as Dale was stopped and the guy was trying to avoid him he didn't brake mid bend for any other reason I am led to believe, Dale could divulge more but it is now in the hands of the police and insurance companies it seems. I don't understand why you are both blaming the biker??
I wasn't blaming the biker. One thought I had which I didn't post was about driving within the available visibility and vanishing points etc.The biker had to brake as Dale was stopped and the guy was trying to avoid him he didn't brake mid bend for any other reason I am led to believe, Dale could divulge more but it is now in the hands of the police and insurance companies it seems. I don't understand why you are both blaming the biker??
Edited by sonofbarefoot on Thursday 14th June 21:57
I'm not sure how you could have thought I had an anti biker stance. If I'd taken sides would I have mentioned the unfortunate timing with regard to:
http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=1&a...
I have very little information regarding the crash, but have made an informed conclusion.
It wasn't Dale's fault, if the Nurburgring don't want people stopping on it, they shouldn't place ice cream vans at certain points on the track. This also affected the bike rider who appears to have lost front wheel traction on some hundreds and thousands.
The blame rests solely with Mr Whippy.
P.s. Great video, unbelievable how little grip there was!
It wasn't Dale's fault, if the Nurburgring don't want people stopping on it, they shouldn't place ice cream vans at certain points on the track. This also affected the bike rider who appears to have lost front wheel traction on some hundreds and thousands.
The blame rests solely with Mr Whippy.
P.s. Great video, unbelievable how little grip there was!
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