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T.K
354 posts
47 months
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detomaso said: I thought the Aventador's engine is an all new V12 and not related to the Bizzarini engine? I thought so too..?
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jamesghwilson
66 posts
18 months
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Blown2CV
6,516 posts
72 months
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myhandle said: Blown2CV said: they took the P147 and with a few subtle tweaks a few years later made the gallardo, it would appear! No, etc they look quite similar, is what i meant
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JonathanLegard
5,116 posts
106 months
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Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.
The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8. The LM002 had a Lambo V12.
This article is just riddled with errors.
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V8 GRF
5,810 posts
79 months
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The Countach in the factory isn't the first prototype either, it might be the oldest surviving car but the original car was called LP500 which as the name suggests was a 5litre engine but wasn't built as it was too unreliable and troublesome (caught fire a few times I believe)
As with many prototypes the original car ended its life wrapped round a concrete block in impact tests.
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NickGibbs
410 posts
100 months
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LP500 was the original 1971 Geneva show car and was more a concept (albeit a running one). The one I sat in is the first production prototype, chassis 001. Visitors to the museum will see that written on the info board next to it. Oh and Jonathan, I think your comment is a bit harsh. the Cheetah and LM002 have the same profile and I do make the engine distinction in the text.
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myhandle
320 posts
43 months
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Blown2CV said: they look quite similar, is what i meant Yes, certainly some similarities. The Gallardo is much better resolved though. What is great is that these prototypes, the Acosta, Canto, P140 and the original Diablo that looks like a Cizeta Moroder were all mouldering away somewhere, and the inspired decision was taken to finish them off as concept cars and put them in the museum - it's great news that they did this as the non-starters and dead ends are so very interesting parts of Lamborghini's history.
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V8 GRF
5,810 posts
79 months
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NickGibbs said: LP500 was the original 1971 Geneva show car and was more a concept (albeit a running one). I'd suggest you do a bit more reasearch on that first car it was much more than a concept car and indeed was the ONLY prototype used for development by Bob Wallace and as I suggested ended it's life at MIRA. 
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NickGibbs
410 posts
100 months
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SprintSpeciale
231 posts
14 months
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I can't decide whether they are brave or stupid to put the cars on display at Duke of York. It is full of little kids haring around on scooters whilst their mothers drink coffee and chinwag. The "security" consists of some women and a few blokes mingling with the onlookers. This morning, when Mrs. SS suggested that they were taking a bit of a risk, they said "No problem - everybody respects the cars". It seems the Italian spirit is still burning bright within the organisation....
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V8 GRF
5,810 posts
79 months
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NickGibbs said: Probably 'the' best site for Countach info 
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JonathanLegard
5,116 posts
106 months
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NickGibbs said: Oh and Jonathan, I think your comment is a bit harsh. the Cheetah and LM002 have the same profile and I do make the engine distinction in the text. But the Cheetah was never known as the LM002. That is my point. It's like saying a TVR T350C is also known as a Sagaris. It's not. They share a basic profile but are powered by different engines and are separate models.
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badgerracing
43 posts
98 months
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JonathanLegard said: Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.
The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8. The LM002 had a Lambo V12.
This article is just riddled with errors. Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies?
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cmoose
18,596 posts
98 months
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All very interesting. My favourite Countach is the original concept, before the NACA ducts and box intakes got glued on:    That said, I still love the LP400.
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JonathanLegard
5,116 posts
106 months
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badgerracing said: JonathanLegard said: Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.
The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8. The LM002 had a Lambo V12.
This article is just riddled with errors. Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies? Maybe it's an issue of semantics.
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NickGibbs
410 posts
100 months
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JonathanLegard said: badgerracing said: JonathanLegard said: Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.
The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8. The LM002 had a Lambo V12.
This article is just riddled with errors. Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies? Maybe it's an issue of semantics. Maybe not worth the line 'riddled with errors' eh?
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JonathanLegard
5,116 posts
106 months
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NickGibbs said: JonathanLegard said: badgerracing said: JonathanLegard said: Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.
The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8. The LM002 had a Lambo V12.
This article is just riddled with errors. Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies? Maybe it's an issue of semantics. Maybe not worth the line 'riddled with errors' eh? I'm saying nothing.
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cmoose
18,596 posts
98 months
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NickGibbs said: Maybe not worth the line 'riddled with errors' eh? Well, if we're talking errors, it's hard to imagine how the 1997 P147 Acosta concept could be a "precursor" to the 1990 Diablo!
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badasscalypso
348 posts
95 months
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To address an inaccuracy in the copy, Lamborghini in fact made 21 Reventon coupes. 20 customer cars and the museum car.
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Chas-Chiro
223 posts
88 months
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And it wouldn't be much good making a two fingered salute to Modena seeing as Ferrari moved to Maranello in 1943.
Can we get some decent subbing here?
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