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T.K

354 posts

47 months

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detomaso said:
I thought the Aventador's engine is an all new V12 and not related to the Bizzarini engine?
I thought so too..?

jamesghwilson

66 posts

18 months

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Beautiful cars!

Blown2CV

6,516 posts

72 months

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myhandle said:
Blown2CV said:
they took the P147 and with a few subtle tweaks a few years later made the gallardo, it would appear!
No, etc
they look quite similar, is what i meant

JonathanLegard

5,116 posts

106 months

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Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.

The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8.
The LM002 had a Lambo V12.

This article is just riddled with errors.

V8 GRF

5,810 posts

79 months

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The Countach in the factory isn't the first prototype either, it might be the oldest surviving car but the original car was called LP500 which as the name suggests was a 5litre engine but wasn't built as it was too unreliable and troublesome (caught fire a few times I believe)

As with many prototypes the original car ended its life wrapped round a concrete block in impact tests.
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NickGibbs

410 posts

100 months

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LP500 was the original 1971 Geneva show car and was more a concept (albeit a running one). The one I sat in is the first production prototype, chassis 001. Visitors to the museum will see that written on the info board next to it.
Oh and Jonathan, I think your comment is a bit harsh. the Cheetah and LM002 have the same profile and I do make the engine distinction in the text.

myhandle

320 posts

43 months

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Blown2CV said:
they look quite similar, is what i meant
Yes, certainly some similarities. The Gallardo is much better resolved though. What is great is that these prototypes, the Acosta, Canto, P140 and the original Diablo that looks like a Cizeta Moroder were all mouldering away somewhere, and the inspired decision was taken to finish them off as concept cars and put them in the museum - it's great news that they did this as the non-starters and dead ends are so very interesting parts of Lamborghini's history.

V8 GRF

5,810 posts

79 months

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NickGibbs said:
LP500 was the original 1971 Geneva show car and was more a concept (albeit a running one).
I'd suggest you do a bit more reasearch on that first car it was much more than a concept car and indeed was the ONLY prototype used for development by Bob Wallace and as I suggested ended it's life at MIRA.



NickGibbs

410 posts

100 months

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Some interesting stuff on Countach chassis 001 if anyone wants to join this discussion.

http://www.countach.ch/History/LP400/index.html

SprintSpeciale

231 posts

14 months

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I can't decide whether they are brave or stupid to put the cars on display at Duke of York. It is full of little kids haring around on scooters whilst their mothers drink coffee and chinwag. The "security" consists of some women and a few blokes mingling with the onlookers. This morning, when Mrs. SS suggested that they were taking a bit of a risk, they said "No problem - everybody respects the cars". It seems the Italian spirit is still burning bright within the organisation....

V8 GRF

5,810 posts

79 months

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NickGibbs said:
Some interesting stuff on Countach chassis 001 if anyone wants to join this discussion.

http://www.countach.ch/History/LP400/index.html
Probably 'the' best site for Countach info thumbup

JonathanLegard

5,116 posts

106 months

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NickGibbs said:
Oh and Jonathan, I think your comment is a bit harsh. the Cheetah and LM002 have the same profile and I do make the engine distinction in the text.
But the Cheetah was never known as the LM002. That is my point. It's like saying a TVR T350C is also known as a Sagaris. It's not. They share a basic profile but are powered by different engines and are separate models.


badgerracing

43 posts

98 months

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JonathanLegard said:
Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.

The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8.
The LM002 had a Lambo V12.

This article is just riddled with errors.
Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies?

cmoose

18,596 posts

98 months

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All very interesting. My favourite Countach is the original concept, before the NACA ducts and box intakes got glued on:





That said, I still love the LP400.

JonathanLegard

5,116 posts

106 months

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badgerracing said:
JonathanLegard said:
Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.

The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8.
The LM002 had a Lambo V12.

This article is just riddled with errors.
Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies?
Maybe it's an issue of semantics.

NickGibbs

410 posts

100 months

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JonathanLegard said:
badgerracing said:
JonathanLegard said:
Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.

The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8.
The LM002 had a Lambo V12.

This article is just riddled with errors.
Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies?
Maybe it's an issue of semantics.
Maybe not worth the line 'riddled with errors' eh?

JonathanLegard

5,116 posts

106 months

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NickGibbs said:
JonathanLegard said:
badgerracing said:
JonathanLegard said:
Also the Lamborghini LM002 is not also known as the Cheetah.

The Cheetah had a Chrysler V8.
The LM002 had a Lambo V12.

This article is just riddled with errors.
Bit harsh don't you think? I'm pretty sure aka means "also known as" - two cars from the same gestation surely qualifies?
Maybe it's an issue of semantics.
Maybe not worth the line 'riddled with errors' eh?
I'm saying nothing.

cmoose

18,596 posts

98 months

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NickGibbs said:
Maybe not worth the line 'riddled with errors' eh?
Well, if we're talking errors, it's hard to imagine how the 1997 P147 Acosta concept could be a "precursor" to the 1990 Diablo!

badasscalypso

348 posts

95 months

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To address an inaccuracy in the copy, Lamborghini in fact made 21 Reventon coupes. 20 customer cars and the museum car.

Chas-Chiro

223 posts

88 months

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And it wouldn't be much good making a two fingered salute to Modena seeing as Ferrari moved to Maranello in 1943.

Can we get some decent subbing here?


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