Free horsepower

[CampDavid]

Byard said:

CampDavid said:

Because it'll be fked

It doesn't spray through the air filter

It does if it's going through the air inlet

[mnkiboy]

Byard said:

mnkiboy said:

I've heard of the washer bottle being redirected at the intercooler as a kind of heath-robinson cooling spray, but this is in a whole different league.

I'd love it if you could please post a picture of your air filter. That would make my day.

Why do you want a picture of the air filter?

Because liquid, especially diesel, will not do the filter any good.

I would explain further, but i'm convinced this must be a wind up, and I don't want to be carried away by a huge woosh parrot.

[Byard]

CampDavid said:

It does if it's going through the air inlet

It goes in next to the turbo, bypasses the filter and most of the piping

[VR6 Turbo]

DanDC5 said:

I thought what he'd basically 'discovered' was a water injection system, then I noticed he'd put diesel in the washer tank. Oh dear.

does that work on diesels ?

more to the point wont his washer bottle and washer pump now be utterly fked? petrol would probably dissolve the water pipes and I imagine diesel wouldn't make friends with them.

love to know what his MAF sensor looks like to. be needing a new one shortly.

VR

slow typing he's bypassed the Maf, bet its nice and clean inside the turbo now.

VR

Edited by VR6 Turbo on Wednesday 20th June 15:16

[rohrl]

Byard said:

CampDavid said:

It does if it's going through the air inlet

It goes in next to the turbo, bypasses the filter and most of the piping

Fer Chrissakes you guys.

You make it sound like he hasn't thought this through.

OP - You haven't thought this through. You'll be fking up the stoichiometric ratio as the engine management doesn't know you're squirting a load of extra fuel in. There's not much harm done in running a diesel too rich though, other than the smoke and the money wasted.

[steviejasp]

I love PH. Just little tips like this can make life so much better.
I've had a little idea myself ...
Try emptying your fuel tank of diesel and refilling with luke warm water. Then, disconnect your fuel line and stuff it up your arse. That way, when you nail it you'll get an absolutely free colonic irrigation session. Marvellous.

[mrmr96]

Byard said:

CampDavid said:

It does if it's going through the air inlet

It goes in next to the turbo, bypasses the filter and most of the piping

Before or after the turbo?

[Byard]

doogz said:

So on your direct injection diesel car, you've now coated all the air intake pipes, and the inside of the turbocharger with diesel, yes?

No. The turbo might have a little, but its hot and most of it gets burnt off

[Jandywa]

doogz said:

So on your direct injection diesel car, you've now coated all the air intake pipes, and the inside of the turbocharger with diesel, yes?

Good to see we still have some innovators in the world...
That diesel will act as a lubricant inside the air intake pipes you see, to allow the air to slip better through the pipes.

[McSam]

Byard said:

doogz said:

So on your direct injection diesel car, you've now coated all the air intake pipes, and the inside of the turbocharger with diesel, yes?

No. The turbo might have a little, but its hot and most of it gets burnt off

Excellent statement

[DanDC5]

VR6 Turbo said:

does that work on diesels ?

more to the point wont his washer bottle and washer pump now be utterly fked? petrol would probably dissolve the water pipes and I imagine diesel wouldn't make friends with them.

love to know what his MAF sensor looks like to. be needing a new one shortly.

VR

slow typing he's bypassed the Maf, bet its nice and clean inside the turbo now.

VR

Edited by VR6 Turbo on Wednesday 20th June 15:16

I'll be honest, I've no idea. I questioned it myself then noticed the diesel part. Will certainly be interesting to see how long the pump lasts....

[MiseryStreak]

steviejasp said:

I love PH. Just little tips like this can make life so much better.
I've had a little idea myself ...
Try emptying your fuel tank of diesel and refilling with luke warm water. Then, disconnect your fuel line and stuff it up your arse. That way, when you nail it you'll get an absolutely free colonic irrigation session. Marvellous.

[Byard]

DanDC5 said:

I'll be honest, I've no idea. I questioned it myself then noticed the diesel part. Will certainly be interesting to see how long the pump lasts....

Well the pump usually pumps water which has no lubrication, so it shouldn't cause any harm.

[VR6 Turbo]

doogz said:

To be fair, the window washer pump is the least of your worries.

True

[DouggyMc]

steviejasp said:

I love PH. Just little tips like this can make life so much better.
I've had a little idea myself ...
Try emptying your fuel tank of diesel and refilling with luke warm water. Then, disconnect your fuel line and stuff it up your arse. That way, when you nail it you'll get an absolutely free colonic irrigation session. Marvellous.

Brilliant!

[J4CKO]

Apart from this being a bad idea on so many levels, would it actually work ? can we have some input from people who know better than me ?

My thinking, The diesel will normally be injected in metered pulses based on the ECU map and sensor readings which are typically done for economy, I knwo on old school diesels if you cranked up the pump and allowed it to make extra boost they would produce more power and a lot more smoke, nowadays it is done via a map change and is more scientific but basically its still the same, more fuel and more boost.

So, qwuestion is, would more fuel added to the intake make any more power, I guess it will raise the fuel content of the air but it would depend how well it was atomise, I was thinking most would just pool in the intake ? suppose a percentage makes it to the cylinder, this already diesely intake air raise the fuel/air ratio and more fuel in equals a bigger bang and more power, I suspect it would send the sensors mental and the ecu would try to lean it out but surely, daft as it sounds it might work briefly.

[Marf]

Byard said:

As an experiment, I tried something the other day on my diesel Focus. And it actually worked and gave quite abit of extra shove aswell!

1. Empty windscreen washer bottle
2. Re-route water pipe to somewhere near the air/turbo inlet and secure.
3. Fill washer bottle with diesel (other fuels may work better).
4. When driving give the windscreen washer button a quick press and enjoy the extra power
5. Enjoy!

NB Don't do this when the car is idling under no load.
NB2 I wouldn't recommend this at all really, it was just an idea I had, try at your own risk!

Edited by Byard on Wednesday 20th June 14:39

Do this next, its a sure fire way to triple the horsepower of your car

[Byard]

J4CKO said:

Apart from this being a bad idea on so many levels, would it actually work ? can we have some input from people who know better than me ?

My thinking, The diesel will normally be injected in metered pulses based on the ECU map and sensor readings which are typically done for economy, I knwo on old school diesels if you cranked up the pump and allowed it to make extra boost they would produce more power and a lot more smoke, nowadays it is done via a map change and is more scientific but basically its still the same, more fuel and more boost.

So, qwuestion is, would more fuel added to the intake make any more power, I guess it will raise the fuel content of the air but it would depend how well it was atomise, I was thinking most would just pool in the intake ? suppose a percentage makes it to the cylinder, this already diesely intake air raise the fuel/air ratio and more fuel in equals a bigger bang and more power, I suspect it would send the sensors mental and the ecu would try to lean it out but surely, daft as it sounds it might work briefly.

I was being serious, it does work. It would work better if it was atomised though

[alangla]

Marf said:

Do this next, its a sure fire way to triple the horsepower of your car

Is that not what an EGR valve does, to an extent?

ETA - this thread has brightened up my Wed afternoon no end, I'm in tears here

[The Black Flash]

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