RE: Powerkit for Porsche Carrera S
Discussion
E38Ross said:
i pity you, then. so in that case, a McLaren F1 doesn't appeal in the slightest, because a veyron could be had for less and is faster. despite the fact it'll be the more involving (emotive) drive.
just an example....perhaps a silly one but then you're being a bit silly and troll-like.
The best example would be a kitted up Subaru in favour of a 911 Carrera S just an example....perhaps a silly one but then you're being a bit silly and troll-like.
vinnie83 said:
E38Ross said:
i pity you, then. so in that case, a McLaren F1 doesn't appeal in the slightest, because a veyron could be had for less and is faster. despite the fact it'll be the more involving (emotive) drive.
just an example....perhaps a silly one but then you're being a bit silly and troll-like.
The best example would be a kitted up Subaru in favour of a 911 Carrera S just an example....perhaps a silly one but then you're being a bit silly and troll-like.
vinnie83 said:
E38Ross said:
i pity you, then. so in that case, a McLaren F1 doesn't appeal in the slightest, because a veyron could be had for less and is faster. despite the fact it'll be the more involving (emotive) drive.
just an example....perhaps a silly one but then you're being a bit silly and troll-like.
The best example would be a kitted up Subaru in favour of a 911 Carrera S just an example....perhaps a silly one but then you're being a bit silly and troll-like.
Tony 1234 said:
Just wish I'd not spent £95k now that I know how good a Subaru is!!!!!! this is my pile of 991S junk below
Dear god that looks good, congratulations mate. Keep seeing a dark blue 991S on the way back from work and it does look good, certainly more modern than the 997.Tony 1234 said:
Just wish I'd not spent £95k now that I know how good a Subaru is!!!!!! this is my pile of 991S junk below
I think you should sell it quickly before you lose too much money on it in depreciation, buy a subaru quickly (you'll wonder why you ever bought a Porsche of course) and then put your money in a savings account earning 6% compound.That way you'll be really wealthy and have lots of money in your bank, and you will be a millionaire and have lots of money and drive a really fast car. Yay
Mac vs veyron, and older fezzas? If people want to talk about second hand cars, well and good. We have so far been discussing new cars with warranties. Please try and keep up.
As far as involved, emotional drives, again, this is a subjective argument. Quantify it if you can, but I wish you the best of luck.
Mind you, rallying can be fun, as can rally cars in general. There have been plenty of threads on Pistonheads talking about the pros (and cons) on rally derived cars, and points surrounding their rapidity as a point to point machine. By all means, look down your noses at these cars.
I really am getting the sense that the 113k carrera s fans simply cant overcome the stopwatch, and henceforth either try the subjective arguments, or the personal attacks. Unfortunately, using actual empirical data to back up a position, seems to not be possible in the defense of this car.
Looking forward to more personal attacks, and / or subjective "descriptions" that cannot be substantiated. Please dont disappoint me, I'm in need of some more entertainment.
BTW, nice Porsche Tony. Bit on the expensive side though. Did you really want to hear how much it will set you back through depreciation and opportunity cost? If you have a money tree in the back yard, please do tell the Pistonhead massive where to get one; plenty of people would like to make use of such.
While we're at it, can you tell me exactly what model it is? I can then determine the performance benchmark it has, and maybe advise you of how you could have achieved better efficiency.
As far as involved, emotional drives, again, this is a subjective argument. Quantify it if you can, but I wish you the best of luck.
Mind you, rallying can be fun, as can rally cars in general. There have been plenty of threads on Pistonheads talking about the pros (and cons) on rally derived cars, and points surrounding their rapidity as a point to point machine. By all means, look down your noses at these cars.
I really am getting the sense that the 113k carrera s fans simply cant overcome the stopwatch, and henceforth either try the subjective arguments, or the personal attacks. Unfortunately, using actual empirical data to back up a position, seems to not be possible in the defense of this car.
Looking forward to more personal attacks, and / or subjective "descriptions" that cannot be substantiated. Please dont disappoint me, I'm in need of some more entertainment.
BTW, nice Porsche Tony. Bit on the expensive side though. Did you really want to hear how much it will set you back through depreciation and opportunity cost? If you have a money tree in the back yard, please do tell the Pistonhead massive where to get one; plenty of people would like to make use of such.
While we're at it, can you tell me exactly what model it is? I can then determine the performance benchmark it has, and maybe advise you of how you could have achieved better efficiency.
Big Rob, you're making yourself look more and more of a berk. If you prefer a Subaru to a 911 because of *your* perceived value then fine. Trying to convince the world that the Subaru is the better car will not work. It doesn't matter what the stats say on paper - it simply isnt a better car.
big_rob_sydney said:
BTW, nice Porsche Tony. Bit on the expensive side though. Did you really want to hear how much it will set you back through depreciation and opportunity cost? If you have a money tree in the back yard, please do tell the Pistonhead massive where to get one; plenty of people would like to make use of such.
While we're at it, can you tell me exactly what model it is? I can then determine the performance benchmark it has, and maybe advise you of how you could have achieved better efficiency.
While we're at it, can you tell me exactly what model it is? I can then determine the performance benchmark it has, and maybe advise you of how you could have achieved better efficiency.
Depreciation is of little concern to me as I didn't purchase it as an investment, I'm in the fortunate position (through my own effort in life) not to be concerned about it, also car is owned outright.
You seem to be making the silly mistake of classing me by your own equity base, which, with respect seems pretty low,
"Which model" click on my username.
I've never visited/posted on the Subaru section because I think they're cr*p, I do wonder why you keep visiting here? is it because subconsciously you'd love to own a 'new' Porsche but cannot afford one!
Anyway I will not be replying to your posts again.
Edited by Tony 1234 on Sunday 22 July 10:44
BrewsterBear said:
Big Rob, you're making yourself look more and more of a berk. If you prefer a Subaru to a 911 because of *your* perceived value then fine. Trying to convince the world that the Subaru is the better car will not work. It doesn't matter what the stats say on paper - it simply isnt a better car.
Nice. You have zero empirical data, AND you resort to insults to make your point.As you were.
Tony 1234 said:
Depreciation is of little concern to me as I didn't purchase it as an investment, I'm in the fortunate position (through my own effort in life) not to be concerned about it, also car is owned outright.
You seem to be making the silly mistake of classing me by your own equity base, which, with respect seems pretty low,
"Which model" click on my username.
I've never visited/posted on the Subaru section because I think they're cr*p, I do wonder why you keep visiting here? is it because subconsciously you'd love to own a 'new' Porsche but cannot afford one!
Anyway I will not be replying to your posts again.
With respect, casting aspersions requires research, before coming to incorrect conclusions. As you have just done. I dont care a fig, but if it is of interest to you, you can obviously search for my own equity base related posts, and then perhaps you may find, your comments are nothing short of silly yourself.You seem to be making the silly mistake of classing me by your own equity base, which, with respect seems pretty low,
"Which model" click on my username.
I've never visited/posted on the Subaru section because I think they're cr*p, I do wonder why you keep visiting here? is it because subconsciously you'd love to own a 'new' Porsche but cannot afford one!
Anyway I will not be replying to your posts again.
Edited by Tony 1234 on Sunday 22 July 10:44
As to your other points, wonderful - you are in the position to spend indiscriminately. Bravo. While we're on the subject, I have a bridge to sell you.
The reason I entered this thread is because it was on the main page of pistonheads, and I thought it might be interesting. Some people may, actually, read articles pertaining to cars other than those which they own. It is not unheard of.
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
+1
Just checking - should that be +0.5?Are you still going halves with people?
I bet you thought that was very clever... you must be very proud of yourself. Enjoy driving your Subaru, I'll enjoy driving my (0.5) 911 turbo.
I'm sure your net worth is very great, and may you die a very wealthy man. I however shall continue to enjoy spending my money on things I enjoy
Lets hope that by the time I'm your age, I'm not a grumpy old tt who thinks I'm always right
vinnie83 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
+1
Just checking - should that be +0.5?Are you still going halves with people?
I bet you thought that was very clever... you must be very proud of yourself. Enjoy driving your Subaru, I'll enjoy driving my (0.5) 911 turbo.
I'm sure your net worth is very great, and may you die a very wealthy man. I however shall continue to enjoy spending my money on things I enjoy
Lets hope that by the time I'm your age, I'm not a grumpy old tt who thinks I'm always right
big_rob_sydney said:
Unfortunately for you, mathematics is not based on opinion. As a general life principle, spending money on high depreciation items will not leave you financially better off.
What a daft comment. Spending money on anything that depreciates will not leave you better off. That could be £50 on a Seiko watch, £5000 on a Ford Focus, £25K on a subaru, £100K on a Porsche or £14.2 Million on a yacht/airplane. For someone struggling to buy basics, £50 on the watch could be considered high depreciation. For someone else who owns a plane and a yacht, £100K on a Porsche can be seen as low depreciation.
.. and before you start talking percentage depreciation, I suspect out of my list above the £50 Seiko will lose the biggest percentage out of all of that list after a year.
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
+1
Just checking - should that be +0.5?Are you still going halves with people?
I bet you thought that was very clever... you must be very proud of yourself. Enjoy driving your Subaru, I'll enjoy driving my (0.5) 911 turbo.
I'm sure your net worth is very great, and may you die a very wealthy man. I however shall continue to enjoy spending my money on things I enjoy
Lets hope that by the time I'm your age, I'm not a grumpy old tt who thinks I'm always right
As a counter-example, what if someone were to spend a bit more on a Ferrari Challenge Stradale when they new in 2003? They have not depreciated at all and whilst not a huge amount faster than your prized Subaru, it beats it is in every possible category otherwise.
AND will save you money.
So is that your 'pro-tip'? Everyone ought to buy a stripped out 360 racer for the road?
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
+1
Just checking - should that be +0.5?Are you still going halves with people?
I bet you thought that was very clever... you must be very proud of yourself. Enjoy driving your Subaru, I'll enjoy driving my (0.5) 911 turbo.
I'm sure your net worth is very great, and may you die a very wealthy man. I however shall continue to enjoy spending my money on things I enjoy
Lets hope that by the time I'm your age, I'm not a grumpy old tt who thinks I'm always right
Is every item you purchase based on it's viability as an investment? Do you only eat bread and drink water as any other type of food and drink is a silly waste of money?
Do you really have as little common sense as you appear?
vinnie83 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
vinnie83 said:
+1
Just checking - should that be +0.5?Are you still going halves with people?
I bet you thought that was very clever... you must be very proud of yourself. Enjoy driving your Subaru, I'll enjoy driving my (0.5) 911 turbo.
I'm sure your net worth is very great, and may you die a very wealthy man. I however shall continue to enjoy spending my money on things I enjoy
Lets hope that by the time I'm your age, I'm not a grumpy old tt who thinks I'm always right
Surely spending money full stop will not leave you financially better off?
Is every item you purchase based on it's viability as an investment? Do you only eat bread and drink water as any other type of food and drink is a silly waste of money?
Do you really have as little common sense as you appear?
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