Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 4]

Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 4]

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Garlick said:
No hardtop I'm afraid, and this is a 1.8is too.
Unbelievable bargain. How are the sills?

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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hornetrider said:
Garlick said:
No hardtop I'm afraid, and this is a 1.8is too.
Unbelievable bargain. How are the sills?
In all honesty they need some attention, but I've got a quote from a friendly man who will look after me very well price-wise wink

All in all I will be able to get it tidied (along with a few other bits that need doing) for SOTW budget all in.

W00DY

15,491 posts

226 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Garlick said:
Not a barge, but I wanted to confess my sins amongst like minded folk.

2 owners, 93,000 miles, MOT to July 13, Tax to March 13, new Dunlops, new exhaust and FMSH. Bought by me for £600

Needs tidying, but a good base to start from.

A 1.8 with those wheelsl.


Proper bargain.

Incredibly jealous.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Garlick said:
In all honesty they need some attention, but I've got a quote from a friendly man who will look after me very well price-wise wink

All in all I will be able to get it tidied (along with a few other bits that need doing) for SOTW budget all in.
Good stuff. Look forward to reading more.

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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While we're on the MX-5 a colleague of mine has just picked up a Mk2 tenth anniversary model, metallic blue on a T plate for £1500. Good buy or not?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Nice bit of kit the 10AE. Can't go wrong at 1.5 baggage.

kiteless

11,708 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Garlick said:
Not a barge, but I wanted to confess my sins amongst like minded folk.

2 owners, 93,000 miles, MOT to July 13, Tax to March 13, new Dunlops, new exhaust and FMSH. Bought by me for £600

Needs tidying, but a good base to start from.

Dearie me, looks a proper billy bargain, that does yes Great find.

Needs tidying? scratchchin

Hood?
Rear wheel arches?
Sills?

bimmer528

518 posts

154 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Thought this was worth a mention for the cost

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

However what i don't understand is how can this 3.0 multitronic be a facelift when my 55 3.0 multitronic is still pre-face??

Am i missing something?

Quietlybonkers

20,977 posts

144 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Output Flange said:
BeirutTaxi said:
Driven two heavy cars with 6 banger gasoline engines, Neither needed to be strangled in order to make progress. Quite the contrary I found, in fact.
Really? Really?

Two examples - the X300 XJ6 3.2 and the E38 728i. Neither are fast cars. Neither are brisk cars. You can just about call them adequate (if memory serves the Jag has the legs on the BMW by a smidge).

The book figure for 0-60 for the 728i is a shade over 9 seconds. That'll be achieved by thrashing it to within an inch of its life, and it's still 9 seconds.

If you're going to have a big barge and a petrol engine, have a big barge with a big petrol engine.
....and my 2004 A8 3.0 TDI does the dash in 7.8 seconds, and returns just under 40 mpg when not pretending it is Barry from Sarfend. Who needs a big, small engined, petrol barge that does 22 mpg?

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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kiteless said:
Dearie me, looks a proper billy bargain, that does yes Great find.

Needs tidying? scratchchin

Hood?
Rear wheel arches?
Sills?
Sills need a tickle, but I've got a friendly bodyshop owner who has quoted favourably.

Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Fox- said:
confused_buyer said:
Hmm....the current base model large execs even if equipped with 4 cylinder diesels are a lot more powerful than the base models of 10 years ago. 728i's, S280/S320's, A8 2.8's etc.....all of the current diesels are much faster than the likes of those.
But of course a luxury cars engine choice is not simply about power alone. It's about smoothness and refinement which a 4 cylinder diesel, no matter how good, simply does not offer in the same way as a lower power 6 cylinder petrol (or diesel).

At some point the focus of a luxury car moved from providing a luxury driving experience to providing the most bling for the lowest monthly payment - be that made up of company car tax or a lease cost.

And it's understandable but that doesn't stop it being a shame. A great shame.
Indeed. A former colleague popped by in his new demo on Sunday and let me take it up the road (still the same PLC, different brands). 520d M Sport auto.

Looks great, especially in the very dark blue with 19s M Parallel-esque alloys and chrome trim. Performance was certainly adequate for all day to day requirements, but I could never get away from the presence of the *wrong* engine note.

Yes it's 184 bhp is a match for a decade-plus old 530d and the economy better still. But even if I could live with a diesel for BIK reasons, it'd need to be a six cylinder in that class of car, even without any gain in nominal outputs.

An F10 528i with the NA six would be no quicker and lots less efficient, but it would feel so much more intrinsically *right* for a premium mid-size exec saloon.

A 728i, whilst a bit slower is just so much more inherently *fitting* an experience. But few people any more value smoothness and refinement over and above fuel and servicing costs. Thankfully there still seem to be just enough for BMW and other to keep building large displacement, multi-cylindered petrol engines (even if they must add forced induction).

GBB

1,737 posts

159 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Garlick said:
Not a barge, but I wanted to confess my sins amongst like minded folk.

2 owners, 93,000 miles, MOT to July 13, Tax to March 13, new Dunlops, new exhaust and FMSH. Bought by me for £600

Needs tidying, but a good base to start from.

I came on to post this bargain - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

But good to see another member of the green MX5 clan, far more interesting.

That's a great buy at £600, especially a 1.8 with the lightweight wheels!

I bought mine originally with a view to turning it but although it was cheap at £750, it turns out there are plenty about at that price. New plan is to turn it into a bit of a sprint/motorsport toy. Spent Sunday driving round a damp field sideways doing an Autotest. Nice to have a car where I'm not that worried about any knocks/bangs.

Here's mine (any excuse to post a picture!)




Mazda MX5 008 by CSTPics, on Flickr


Edited by GBB on Tuesday 9th October 20:28

kiteless

11,708 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Garlick said:
kiteless said:
Dearie me, looks a proper billy bargain, that does yes Great find.

Needs tidying? scratchchin

Hood?
Rear wheel arches?
Sills?
Sills need a tickle, but I've got a friendly bodyshop owner who has quoted favourably.
Excellent thumbup

The rear arches on ours were a constant bane; no amount of wire brushing / rust remedy / primer & paint seemed to get rid. My fists of ham when it comes to bodywork had nothing to do with the problem of course whistle After we found out last month that much welding was was now needed on the chassis, we sold it on to the lad at the garage who is now transforming it in to a track slag.

We've asked him to call 'round for us to see it when the work is done.


CharlesdeGaulle

26,264 posts

180 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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V8mate said:
Great Pretender said:
V8mate said:
Great Pretender said:
Petrol is better for what precisely?
Blowing up Parliament.
You'll be popular on the 5th November with your Jerry-can and solitary match.
I'm going to do it on the 4th. They'll never see that coming.

Or the 6th. They'll have dropped their guard by then.
We really won't chum...<watching you>...

Apache

39,731 posts

284 months

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
V8mate said:
Great Pretender said:
V8mate said:
Great Pretender said:
Petrol is better for what precisely?
Blowing up Parliament.
You'll be popular on the 5th November with your Jerry-can and solitary match.
I'm going to do it on the 4th. They'll never see that coming.

Or the 6th. They'll have dropped their guard by then.
We really won't chum...<watching you>...
Watching you, watching me though wink

theironduke

6,995 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Whose a pretty boy then....



XJR in pretty much perfect spec'.......wibble

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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theironduke said:
Whose a pretty boy then....



XJR in pretty much perfect spec'.......wibble
Spooky, I was just looking at this!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

Jaguar 4.0 XJR SUPERCHARGED 4DR AUTO 1998

4 Doors, Automatic, Saloon, Petrol, 57,000 miles, Metallic Blue. ABS, Air conditioning, Alloy wheels, CD, Colour coding - Body, Cruise control, Full Service History, Electric windows, Remote locking, Electric mirrors, Driver airbag, Power assisted steering. Insurance Group:19E, a very nice xjr jag one that has been maintained very well indeed harmon kardon stero upgrade warranty included full dealer facilities a fully stamped service log all here to hand stunning. £3,995

E38Ross

35,071 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Zwolf said:
Fox- said:
confused_buyer said:
Hmm....the current base model large execs even if equipped with 4 cylinder diesels are a lot more powerful than the base models of 10 years ago. 728i's, S280/S320's, A8 2.8's etc.....all of the current diesels are much faster than the likes of those.
But of course a luxury cars engine choice is not simply about power alone. It's about smoothness and refinement which a 4 cylinder diesel, no matter how good, simply does not offer in the same way as a lower power 6 cylinder petrol (or diesel).

At some point the focus of a luxury car moved from providing a luxury driving experience to providing the most bling for the lowest monthly payment - be that made up of company car tax or a lease cost.

And it's understandable but that doesn't stop it being a shame. A great shame.
Indeed. A former colleague popped by in his new demo on Sunday and let me take it up the road (still the same PLC, different brands). 520d M Sport auto.

Looks great, especially in the very dark blue with 19s M Parallel-esque alloys and chrome trim. Performance was certainly adequate for all day to day requirements, but I could never get away from the presence of the *wrong* engine note.

Yes it's 184 bhp is a match for a decade-plus old 530d and the economy better still. But even if I could live with a diesel for BIK reasons, it'd need to be a six cylinder in that class of car, even without any gain in nominal outputs.

An F10 528i with the NA six would be no quicker and lots less efficient, but it would feel so much more intrinsically *right* for a premium mid-size exec saloon.

A 728i, whilst a bit slower is just so much more inherently *fitting* an experience. But few people any more value smoothness and refinement over and above fuel and servicing costs. Thankfully there still seem to be just enough for BMW and other to keep building large displacement, multi-cylindered petrol engines (even if they must add forced induction).
Zwolf and fox- have nailed it on the head for me. Luxury is not just about performance.

Mark-C

5,084 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th October 2012
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Pappa Lurve said:
ATM said:
That is SO a barge, or at least it is from behind the wheel. Love those old girls and I think they will only appreciate over the years.
Mine's a 4.0L Auto and it definitely feels like a barge, albeit one that will pick up her skirts and move with some alacrity when required. Love it and it was so cheap for what you get ... I hope they'll appreciate but I don't really care.

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