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SpeckledJim
6,380 posts
122 months
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TheLordJohn said: Rollcage said: TheLordJohn said: bmthnick1981 said: TheLordJohn said: Some sort of non standard screen in front of the gear lever? Not seen one like that before. My knowledge of BMW's is not good enough to be able to point out things like that... Lol. That car was mentioned a while ago - so has been available for some time. Too expensive for what it is IMO, though i'm sure it's lovely. Thanks for the info  I expect that is absolutely superb. Very carefully owned by a very sensible, very trustworthy, very boring man. Just a guess.
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r129sl
2,370 posts
72 months
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lordlee said: fathomfive said: 3k is a bit steep for that IMO. Also the suspension look very wrong height wise. that looks like its been raised by 2" all around! They must have a huge of 'back to black' knocking around their workshop as the car is covered in the stuff!! It's an early car: they had much higher suspension. It is too low at the front, though and the tyres are the wrong size: should be 195/65 R 15. Within six miles of me. Would be infinitely better without the rear spoiler. Seems to have a total spec, too, even the town and country horn. That dealer is not the most reliable.
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Baryonyx
6,821 posts
28 months
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Quietlybonkers said: Classic FM sounds fantastic on the Bose ( the first owner was to mean to pay five grand for the Bang and Olafsson option) I prefer to use my Bose to listen to Radio 4. Nothing better for engaging the brain. Mind you, Bang and Olufsen stuff is supposedly mostly Phillips under the hood! And the B&O home hi-fi kit was described to me by someone in the know as a functionally pretty lifestyle brand for women but of little interest to serious hi-fi enthusiasts. So don't feel too disappointed that you don't have little B&O speakers popping up on turrets in the cabin! If car manufacturers really cared about in-car audio they'd be sourcing kit from the likes of Krell/Sonus Faber etc etc. But only hi-fi enthusiasts would really appreciate/pay for that kind of stuff. And to most of us, it makes little difference.
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Garlick
38,219 posts
109 months
PH Manager Bloke
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scarble said: something tasteless Not sure why you thought that was a good thing to post, next time have a think before pressing submit...
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jke11y
1,568 posts
106 months
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Baryonyx said: If car manufacturers really cared about in-car audio they'd be sourcing kit from the likes of Krell/Sonus Faber etc etc. But only hi-fi enthusiasts would really appreciate/pay for that kind of stuff. And to most of us, it makes little difference. Linn used to supply Aston with systems but rumour was they dropped it for a cheaper (B&O) alternative.
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bmthnick1981
2,794 posts
85 months
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Garlick said: scarble said: something tasteless Not sure why you thought that was a good thing to post, next time have a think before pressing submit... Quite.
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CampDavid
7,699 posts
67 months
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bmthnick1981 said: Garlick said: scarble said: something tasteless Not sure why you thought that was a good thing to post, next time have a think before pressing submit... Quite. ?
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BigBen
6,502 posts
99 months
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Baryonyx said: Quietlybonkers said: Classic FM sounds fantastic on the Bose ( the first owner was to mean to pay five grand for the Bang and Olafsson option) I prefer to use my Bose to listen to Radio 4. Nothing better for engaging the brain. Mind you, Bang and Olufsen stuff is supposedly mostly Phillips under the hood! And the B&O home hi-fi kit was described to me by someone in the know as a functionally pretty lifestyle brand for women but of little interest to serious hi-fi enthusiasts. So don't feel too disappointed that you don't have little B&O speakers popping up on turrets in the cabin! If car manufacturers really cared about in-car audio they'd be sourcing kit from the likes of Krell/Sonus Faber etc etc. But only hi-fi enthusiasts would really appreciate/pay for that kind of stuff. And to most of us, it makes little difference. You are assuming that knowledge gained in home Hi-Fi systems is readily transferable to in car Hi-Fi. The listening environment is not the same so no point comparing brands between the two. I suspect the in car systems by Linn / B&O are re badges of systems designed by car audio specialists, perhaps signed off by the respective Hi Fi companies. Ben
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Output Flange
12,246 posts
80 months
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Have a read of the TechRadar review of the super-duper spanking system in the Evoque for some thoughts on car audio.
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r129sl
2,370 posts
72 months
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Bang & Olufsen belongs in the vulgarian's chariot, non? presumably it may only be specified with "privacy" glazing and 21" black wheels.
Does no manufacturer offer a motor car of substantial qualities these days? H Piech's Phaeton I thought was the only one, but puny diesel only rather rules it out. But I digress.
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Rollcage
9,169 posts
61 months
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r129sl said: Bang & Olufsen belongs in the vulgarian's chariot, non? presumably it may only be specified with "privacy" glazing and 21" black wheels.
Does no manufacturer offer a motor car of substantial qualities these days? H Piech's Phaeton I thought was the only one, but puny diesel only rather rules it out. But I digress. Diesel only?
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r129sl
2,370 posts
72 months
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Brand new and from the UK importer, yes, diesel only.
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SpeckledJim
6,380 posts
122 months
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r129sl said: Bang & Olufsen belongs in the vulgarian's chariot, non? presumably it may only be specified with "privacy" glazing and 21" black wheels.
Does no manufacturer offer a motor car of substantial qualities these days? H Piech's Phaeton I thought was the only one, but puny diesel only rather rules it out. But I digress. The last true refuge, the Lexus LS, has been restyled into just another onanomobile. It is over. A Jag XJ in frumpy colours is all we have left.
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Quietlybonkers
3,119 posts
13 months
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r129sl said: Brand new and from the UK importer, yes, diesel only. What cc diesel is it? I agree that 1.9 TDis can be a bit unimpressive, but some of the 3, 3.2, 3.5 and 4 litre jobbies favoured by our Cherman friends are very quiet but have a lot of grunt and pretty good acceleration times
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r129sl
2,370 posts
72 months
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3.0 V6, 240PS. Yawn. I read Merc will be offering the next S-Class with a 4-cylinder, 2.1litre diseasel. It is already available in every other range except the CL and SL. It is all about the show, these days. How long until you can buy a S-Class with no engine at all, its purpose being merely to stand stationary on the drive of your executive 4 bed detached to impress the neighbours? with dark tinted windows it wouldn't even need seats!
Onanomobile: love it.
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Mark-C
1,712 posts
74 months
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r129sl said: Brand new and from the UK importer, yes, diesel only. Seriously? There are certainly some V8 and W12 cars in the classifieds. Were these not dealer supplied? Example -> http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...Not picking a fight ... just curious 
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confused_buyer
1,871 posts
50 months
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r129sl said: 3.0 V6, 240PS. Yawn. I read Merc will be offering the next S-Class with a 4-cylinder, 2.1litre diseasel. It is already available in every other range except the CL and SL. It is all about the show, these days. How long until you can buy a S-Class with no engine at all, its purpose being merely to stand stationary on the drive of your executive 4 bed detached to impress the neighbours? with dark tinted windows it wouldn't even need seats!
Onanomobile: love it. Hmm....the current base model large execs even if equipped with 4 cylinder diesels are a lot more powerful than the base models of 10 years ago. 728i's, S280/S320's, A8 2.8's etc.....all of the current diesels are much faster than the likes of those.
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SpeckledJim
6,380 posts
122 months
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Mark-C said: r129sl said: Brand new and from the UK importer, yes, diesel only. Seriously? There are certainly some V8 and W12 cars in the classifieds. Were these not dealer supplied? Example -> http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...Not picking a fight ... just curious 10 years of selling 10 a year stilted the appeal of offering the full range. The diesel is still a great, great car, mind. Wouldn't want to have to fix one though, some scary stories about.
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Fox-
9,952 posts
115 months
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confused_buyer said: Hmm....the current base model large execs even if equipped with 4 cylinder diesels are a lot more powerful than the base models of 10 years ago. 728i's, S280/S320's, A8 2.8's etc.....all of the current diesels are much faster than the likes of those. But of course a luxury cars engine choice is not simply about power alone. It's about smoothness and refinement which a 4 cylinder diesel, no matter how good, simply does not offer in the same way as a lower power 6 cylinder petrol (or diesel). At some point the focus of a luxury car moved from providing a luxury driving experience to providing the most bling for the lowest monthly payment - be that made up of company car tax or a lease cost. And it's understandable but that doesn't stop it being a shame. A great shame.
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E38Ross
10,499 posts
81 months
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confused_buyer said: Hmm....the current base model large execs even if equipped with 4 cylinder diesels are a lot more powerful than the base models of 10 years ago. 728i's, S280/S320's, A8 2.8's etc.....all of the current diesels are much faster than the likes of those. Those cars you described have 6 cylinder engines. They aren't about speed, they're about the waft and smoothness. A 4 pot diesel going slightly quicker won't feel as luxurious ad a slightly slower 6 pot. Unless, you've missed a large point of 6+ cylinder engines? 
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