Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 4]

[Krikkit]

hornetrider said:

SpeckledJim said:

I see, thanks. The American Football look.

Looks gash, ahm oot.

The best ones have a bit running along the rear bumper, where it's recessed back a bit, in black. I've never seen that front one before, but it's bloody hideous!

ETA: Can't see one on google now, maybe I've just seen a couple of custom ones.

Either way the X5 strikes me as a bloody awful thing, very big and lumpen, and the tyre costs must be mindboggling with the rear wheels running a couple of degrees of neg camber as well!

What's wrong with that S60? Looks like a good mini-barge to me.

Edited by Krikkit on Thursday 11th October 14:22

[Hammerhead]

Classic sporty German barge ok? (Only 500 over budget) Looks Minty McMint..


http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Private Hammerhead.

[V8mate]

Hammerhead said:

Classic sporty German barge ok? (Only 500 over budget) Looks Minty McMint..


http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Private Hammerhead.

Man, I'd be wanting a five point oh for that kind of money!

[BeirutTaxi]

I was maybe in the wrong. Personally speaking I would like a barge but don't want the running costs associated with them.


The Volvo is a different choice and actually it was a good that something alternative to the Germans was suggested. However, don't Volvo's leave you.... cold? Added to that I thought the part prices for some of them were high enough to make your nose bleed? I may be wrong though.

If someone can find me a barge with great running costs that would be awesome. Not a Lexus LS400 or whatever yet though, I do still have an interesting and sexual life. No Volvo's either since I don't collect a pension or wear a trilby.

[Krikkit]

BeirutTaxi said:

I was maybe in the wrong. Personally speaking I would like a barge but don't want the running costs associated with them.


The Volvo is a different choice and actually it was a good that something alternative to the Germans was suggested. However, don't Volvo's leave you.... cold? Added to that I thought the part prices for some of them were high enough to make your nose bleed? I may be wrong though.

If someone can find me a barge with great running costs that would be awesome. Not a Lexus LS400 or whatever yet though, I do still have an interesting and sexual life. No Volvo's either since I don't collect a pension or wear a trilby.

I like Volvos full stop tbh. Post-millenium S60/V70/S80's are, in my experience, good-looking, comfy, reliable barges. Parts prices I'm not up on, but they can't be worse than the equivalent BMW/Audi/Merc, can they?

Tricky question after a barge with minimal running costs - find anything that's had a lot of the troublesome work done on it and you should be off to a good start. hr's 728i is a perfect example - good fuel tank, suspension refurbed, winner!

[Jobbo]

BeirutTaxi said:

Hammerhead said:

Swedish-Spanwell, loaded, GSoH, would like to meet..


But has it got enough buttons??



http://www.dawhitecars.co.uk/used-cars/volvo-s60-t...

Best Smoker Barges 1-5 large [Vol 4]. Poor effort!

Very harsh - that's a nicely specced facelift car for a good price. Though have those seats really only done 60k?

[JamesK]

It's no use. I've slept on it and I still want it!

[richardxjr]

BeirutTaxi said:

Not a Lexus LS400 or whatever yet though, I do still have an interesting and sexual life. No Volvo's either since I don't collect a pension or wear a trilby.

You'd stand half a chance in your quest if you took them blinkers off

[Hammerhead]

V8mate said:

Man, I'd be wanting a five point oh for that kind of money!

I used to think the same. The S4 does look a lot more modern, granted. But, the old S2s and especially these 86.5s are probably the best of the lot. I've grown to like the earlier styling

As for the S60 Ovlov, yup, its the less obvious choice. I like less obvious.

[BlueMR2]

Hammerhead said:

Classic sporty German barge ok? (Only 500 over budget) Looks Minty McMint..


http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...

Private Hammerhead.

Ok, i'll let you off as it seems to be the same style and colour as my 928.

[Great Pretender]

JamesK said:

It's no use. I've slept on it and I still want it!

Cooler than Pingoo's penguin bits.

[Pappa Lurve]

OK chaps of bargeworld... Looking at the C240 I mentioned properly tomorrow or over the weekend. Its presently being run by my next door neighbour until his new company car arrives so he will chuck me the keys and let me pour over the old girl properly for as long as needed. I know the obvious checks to do on any car, bought enough of the things but anything I need to check on these specifically on the C class?

Had a quick look this morning as I left before him and I had not really looked closely at it as he has been away since we last spoke about it. Body has a few scratches and scrapes but very clean for the age. Interior is spotless which bodes well.

Only £400 I hope so can;t go too badly wrong whatever happens but still, best to know in advance if I need to look at anything specifically.

Also, I may know a really, really nice XJR going for an amazingly good price so checking that out too, but I know those old girls well enough to be ok with checking it out.

Thanks all :-)

[SpeckledJim]

Pappa Lurve said:

... let me pour over the old girl ...

I understand the accepted practice is to buy it first.

[GBB]

SpeckledJim said:

bmthnick1981 said:

Saw 2 x X5's at the auction on Tues;

1 x 2000 X reg 4.4 with 100k went for £3300

1 x 2002 52 reg 3.0i with 100k went for £4100

Both looked tidy, cant remember MOT / Tax on either but they bot had SH and looked smart enough for the money. Clearly a punt, but one i'd take in due course I think.

Anyone any experience of the difference in fuel economy between these in the real world please? (20 mile commute, 17 miles A roads, 3 miles urban)

My Dad had a 4.4, the fuel consumption was sub 20's pretty much full time, he sold it for a 3.0 Legacy Outback which was far more economical.

My total guess is that the 3.0i has got to have better fuel economy, plus less potential for big bills.

My Dad's had had about an owner every year (I think he was the 7th in 7 yrs) implying that people bought them for image, then discovered running costs and moved them on.

[Pappa Lurve]

SpeckledJim said:

Pappa Lurve said:

... let me pour over the old girl ...

I understand the accepted practice is to buy it first.

Hey, it's try before you buy dear chap!!!

A lex - about what I figured and I know the thing is ok as he just did 250 miles on it in 2 days. Just wanted to check as I am not exactly a mechanical genius. Thanks mate. As you say, how far wrong can I go on what will be the smallest amount I have ever spent on a car, including my first ever car before I passed my test.

Seems like a decent enough mini barge for the winter and potential dog hack car, which is all I really want it for.

[Zwolf]

Hammerhead said:

Swedish-Spanwell, loaded, GSoH, would like to meet..


But has it got enough buttons??



http://www.dawhitecars.co.uk/used-cars/volvo-s60-t...

Lovely. Should have a space ball gearknob as a T5 though and it's Cedar Green, not Scabby Green (which is a very good thing). Would prefer it with two pedals though.

The manual 260PS T5 is quicker by the numbers than the heavier and AWD 300PS S60 R too IIRC. No active, switchable dampers to bork expensively either.

[Krikkit]

A lex said:

Krikkit said:

I like Volvos full stop tbh. Post-millenium S60/V70/S80's are, in my experience, good-looking, comfy, reliable barges. Parts prices I'm not up on, but they can't be worse than the equivalent BMW/Audi/Merc, can they?

Tricky question after a barge with minimal running costs - find anything that's had a lot of the troublesome work done on it and you should be off to a good start. hr's 728i is a perfect example - good fuel tank, suspension refurbed, winner!

Parts can get stupidly pricey - but it depends if you are willing to use 2nd hand bits from breakers and good quality aftermarket parts. Things like brakes, filters and droplinks are as cheap as for anything else.

However some quick nightmare examples:

D5 thermostat is £170ish as it comes in a special housing and includes some sensors - you also need to take the aux. belt and PAS pump off to change it I changed the thermostat on my W140 for €15 and it took me all of 15 minutes!

I needed a new fuel filter housing - about 20p worth of plastic. £180 from Volvo as you have to buy the whole fuel filter assembly - eventually got one from a breaker but still paid £30

Nivomat shocks for the self levelling suspension can get very expensive and if you have an R version with the adjustable dampers you had better re-mortgage you house if they need replacing

Ouch, that's a touch more insane than I thought! I'm always happy to use good 2nd parts and pattern parts for a smoker/budget car, but some bits just aren't available that way.

[SpeckledJim]

Pappa Lurve said:

SpeckledJim said:

Pappa Lurve said:

... let me pour over the old girl ...

I understand the accepted practice is to buy it first.

Hey, it's try before you buy dear chap!!!

A lex - about what I figured and I know the thing is ok as he just did 250 miles on it in 2 days. Just wanted to check as I am not exactly a mechanical genius. Thanks mate. As you say, how far wrong can I go on what will be the smallest amount I have ever spent on a car, including my first ever car before I passed my test.

Seems like a decent enough mini barge for the winter and potential dog hack car, which is all I really want it for.

Success in bangering is often found in inverse proportion to expectation.

£400, looks alright, give it a punt, fall in love, you'll still be trundling about in it in three years, having replaced a bulb and hoovered a mat.

[hornetrider]

hornetrider said:

X5 can really look nice in certain subtle colours.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...





FBMSH, last invoice 4.5k 8k miles ago - available for £5470. Jaysus.

Chaps. This is itching away at me for some reason I cannot quite fathom. Maybe it's the V8, maybe it's the double glazing, maybe its the 'fk you' of driving a planet eating 4x4 and never taking it offroad.

Talk me out of chopping in an E39 530i Touring for it.

[CampDavid]

hornetrider said:

hornetrider said:

X5 can really look nice in certain subtle colours.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...





FBMSH, last invoice 4.5k 8k miles ago - available for £5470. Jaysus.

Chaps. This is itching away at me for some reason I cannot quite fathom. Maybe it's the V8, maybe it's the double glazing, maybe its the 'fk you' of driving a planet eating 4x4 and never taking it offroad.

Talk me out of chopping in an E39 530i Touring for it.

I'll do 10mpg on short town runs and will utterly Saville you each time it goes in for a service.

Other than that...