Car Park Psychology.

[otolith]

irocfan said:

and why couldn't the XK owner have taken their child with them to the supermarket? the chav was in the wrong - period!

Park in the monkey enclosure, put up with the damage.

[anonymous-user]

Needa308GT4 said:

I can get away with the Parent and child spaces as I have the kids car seats in the back, and in fairness I'd probably not normally park in disabled bays as they're quite often terrible at parking their own Motability wagons.

How nice of you. Seriously selfish, seriously ignorant.

[Mave]

irocfan said:

Mave said:

Well, if you're trying to get a baby out of a child seat, whilst holding onto a child at the same time, then being able to open the door properly makes it much more likely that the child won't be able to wriggle out of your hand and run off. (It also makes it far less likely that you'll inadvertently dent someone's car in the process!)

here's a stunning thought - don't take kids to the supermarket shopping. By the time they're old enough to have to try on clothes they don't need the P'n'C spaces anyway. You'll be doing yourself a favour in reduced stress, the kids a favour so they're not subject to the hell that is weekly food shopping and the rest of us a favour by not inflicting screaming kids on us all

That's a stunning thought. Should I just leave my kids home on their own to fend for themselves? Lets face it, this thread isn't about the specifics of P&C spaces, disabled spaces, or whether kids run across car parks; it's about people's attitudes, and whether they show consideration for anyone else

[Crow555]

Thin White Duke said:

The latter of those points is a sore one. I often park my car in a row with say a dozen or more spaces spare all round, only to find someone has parked right next to me by the time I return. Do drivers seem to gravitate towards other parked cars?

My theory (not read the whole thread so forgive me if mentioned before) is inability to park within white lines properly. Therefore, they are using the solitary parked car as a guide.

I do try keep my car as clean and pristine as possible. It's not particularly special but I'm proud of it all the same. It has suffered the odd ding through people parking too close, even when I've parked in the next county from the store entrance. I can honestly say I've never parked in the Mother and Baby or disabled spaces. Why? Because I like to think I've been brought up with a bit of class. Worried your precious jag/BMW/Merc/4x4 might get a ding? Buy a £500 mondeo, take that to tesco instead and don't park like a knob.

[irocfan]

Mave said:

irocfan said:

Mave said:

Well, if you're trying to get a baby out of a child seat, whilst holding onto a child at the same time, then being able to open the door properly makes it much more likely that the child won't be able to wriggle out of your hand and run off. (It also makes it far less likely that you'll inadvertently dent someone's car in the process!)

here's a stunning thought - don't take kids to the supermarket shopping. By the time they're old enough to have to try on clothes they don't need the P'n'C spaces anyway. You'll be doing yourself a favour in reduced stress, the kids a favour so they're not subject to the hell that is weekly food shopping and the rest of us a favour by not inflicting screaming kids on us all

That's a stunning thought. Should I just leave my kids home on their own to fend for themselves? Lets face it, this thread isn't about the specifics of P&C spaces, disabled spaces, or whether kids run across car parks; it's about people's attitudes, and whether they show consideration for anyone else

Mave many children get taken shopping every week with both parents (I know I was) why not get one parent/partner to look after the kids while the other goes shopping? I realise there are a lot of one parent families and this 'solution' would be bugger all good to them but I'm just throwing out a few ideas.

[tangerine_sedge]

This whole thread has made me realise what a selfish and arrogant place this has become.

Go to a supermarket and don't want dings in your car? Simple, park at the far end near to a curb. This has helped keep my cars ding free* for the last 15 years. Not fking rocket science is it?

Complain about reversing out of a parking spot? Simple, reverse in. Can't get your bags in the boot? Simple, drive forwards 6 inches. How fking hard is it to work this out?

It seems to me, that most of you are just making pathetic excuses to cover up your own arrogance and laziness. Grow up and start acting like adults instead of spoilt teenagers.


(*) except for the one I caused by allowing an unlocked garage door to suddenly swing into the side of my car by a gust of wind - ouch!

Edited by tangerine_sedge on Monday 25th June 17:13

[Mave]

irocfan said:

Mave many children get taken shopping every week with both parents (I know I was) why not get one parent/partner to look after the kids while the other goes shopping? I realise there are a lot of one parent families and this 'solution' would be bugger all good to them but I'm just throwing out a few ideas.

Yep, there are lots of work arounds. Sometimes I'll do just what you suggested. Sometimes I think it's good for the kids to experience shopping; to be in an area with lots of people around, to see the huge range of vegetables, to let them select some of the food (and then try to work out a recipe to suit!). And if they start playing up (which they normally don't because they are used to being in supermarkets) then I head for the exit sharpish.

I don't expect any kind of special treatment when I've got the kids with me other than a bit of general courtesy and consideration. The supermarkets have provided P&C spaces specifically for people with kids though, so it does wind me up when people without kids blantantly use them, and IMHO the majority of the time its as much to do with being closer to the shop entrance then it is about avoiding dents....

[nonuts]

If you're going to be quick in the shop I'm pretty sure you're better off parking between two cars that are already there (or 1 car and the end). As from what I can see it's normally people getting OUT of their cars that cause damage not people getting back in and if you're quick you'll probably come out to find the same cars still there.

[martin84]

Pontoneer said:

Why do drivers just drive along a road when some idiot is reversing blindly out into the road from a drive or parking space ? The logic is exactly the same .

I don't do that. I stop if I see that happening because I'd rather do that than have a crash. Just like I'd rather get out of the way of a moving vehicle than get run over. I'm not one of those who sees a car reversing towards me and thinks 'well the law says I can stand here so I will.' I think 'hmmmm, broken legs are not fun, I shall move.'

Pontoneer said:

I will keep walking by blind blunderers , and bang on their bootlid if need be , because they should be looking where they are going and giving way to passers by .

Oh right so rather than get out of the way of a 2 tonne thing which could kill you, you'd rather antagonise someone instead? I've known people to get stabbed for less so I just walk out of the way.

Pontoneer said:

Most people in car parks will be drivers themselves .

Which explains the dreadful road positioning of most motorists.

Pontoneer said:

In the car parks I use , when you reverse in there is a footpath behind which you then walk down to the store ( my local Asda , Tesco and B&Q all have this arrangement ) , and return by the same route with your trolley to load up .

Most of the car parks I use only have a footpath behind the disabled spaces. I'll use them from now on due to your advice.

Pontoneer said:

If you park a car in a car park you become a pedestrian - pedestrians do have priority over motorised traffic and if a car driver reverses into a pedestrian it is always the car drivers fault for not being sufficiently aware of his surroundings .

Well we do need to change the law in this country, for starters pinning the blame on the motorist regardless goes against innocent-until-proven-guilty in my view. Secondly we pander far too much to iPod zombies and the like by telling them it's someone elses fault if they fail to take responsibility for their own actions by looking both ways before crossing the street. Far too much of a pedestrian lawsuit charter currently. We need to prevent getting run over being worth any money.

[grayze]

Mave said:

irocfan said:

Mave said:

Well, if you're trying to get a baby out of a child seat, whilst holding onto a child at the same time, then being able to open the door properly makes it much more likely that the child won't be able to wriggle out of your hand and run off. (It also makes it far less likely that you'll inadvertently dent someone's car in the process!)

here's a stunning thought - don't take kids to the supermarket shopping. By the time they're old enough to have to try on clothes they don't need the P'n'C spaces anyway. You'll be doing yourself a favour in reduced stress, the kids a favour so they're not subject to the hell that is weekly food shopping and the rest of us a favour by not inflicting screaming kids on us all

That's a stunning thought. Should I just leave my kids home on their own to fend for themselves? Lets face it, this thread isn't about the specifics of P&C spaces, disabled spaces, or whether kids run across car parks; it's about people's attitudes, and whether they show consideration for anyone else

Heres another stunning thought, you all have internet, buy on line for home delivery saves jamming up the roads, car parks saves on fuel and stress and lets you spend more time with your kids at home doing stuff they want to do.

[martin84]

grayze said:

Heres another stunning thought, you all have internet, buy on line for home delivery saves jamming up the roads, car parks saves on fuel and stress and lets you spend more time with your kids at home doing stuff they want to do.

Saves on stress? Have you ever done online shopping? There's always something they don't have/can't be bothered to deliver/lose in the van meaning you always have to go to a shop anyway.

[anonymous-user]

tangerine_sedge said:

This whole thread has made me realise what a selfish and arrogant place this has become.

Go to a supermarket and don't want dings in your car? Simple, park at the far end near to a curb. This has helped keep my cars ding free* for the last 15 years. Not fking rocket science is it?

Complain about reversing out of a parking spot? Simple, reverse in. Can't get your bags in the boot? Simple, drive forwards 6 inches. How fking hard is it to work this out?

It seems to me, that most of you are just making pathetic excuses to cover up your own arrogance and laziness. Grow up and start acting like adults instead of spoilt teenagers.

Yes. Apparently PH has caught the American disease of being too fking lazy to be able to walk a few yards to the supermarket front door. The reps and other really important people who frequently park in the child and handicapped spaces absolutely have to have pole position and if not moan about it to anyone who will listen. It’s pathetic how some are mocking others children in this thread and its fairly obvious that we have some pretty young and dumb posters.I am betting the very same people whine about the elderly and anything else that gets in their way of conducting a stress free lifestyle, to the cost of everyone else.

[Thin White Duke]

CAPP0 said:

This is a very old picture, taken on a cheap mobile phone years ago, so apologies for the quality and for the fact that I may have posted this before.

However, I guarantee you that this picture is in no way altered, photoshopped or re-touched, and there's no "angle" to it, ie the rest of the car park really is as empty as all that you can see.

This was an emergency run to a Toys R Us store late one evening to buy a present for a relative's child. My car is the Fiat and I parked away from the store in order to not be close to any other cars and risk any damage. I was only in the shop for 5-10 minutes, and the Micra was nowhere to be seen when I parked my car:



The same sort of thing has happened to me elsewhere since, I completely and utterly fail to understand it, to this day.

It's much the same situation that I described a page or two ago. It was a Micra in my incident. Hmm.

[grayze]

martin84 said:

grayze said:

Heres another stunning thought, you all have internet, buy on line for home delivery saves jamming up the roads, car parks saves on fuel and stress and lets you spend more time with your kids at home doing stuff they want to do.

Saves on stress? Have you ever done online shopping? There's always something they don't have/can't be bothered to deliver/lose in the van meaning you The Mrs always has to go to a shop anyway.

Fixed that for you.

[Mave]

grayze said:

Mave said:

irocfan said:

Mave said:

Well, if you're trying to get a baby out of a child seat, whilst holding onto a child at the same time, then being able to open the door properly makes it much more likely that the child won't be able to wriggle out of your hand and run off. (It also makes it far less likely that you'll inadvertently dent someone's car in the process!)

here's a stunning thought - don't take kids to the supermarket shopping. By the time they're old enough to have to try on clothes they don't need the P'n'C spaces anyway. You'll be doing yourself a favour in reduced stress, the kids a favour so they're not subject to the hell that is weekly food shopping and the rest of us a favour by not inflicting screaming kids on us all

That's a stunning thought. Should I just leave my kids home on their own to fend for themselves? Lets face it, this thread isn't about the specifics of P&C spaces, disabled spaces, or whether kids run across car parks; it's about people's attitudes, and whether they show consideration for anyone else

Heres another stunning thought, you all have internet, buy on line for home delivery saves jamming up the roads, car parks saves on fuel and stress and lets you spend more time with your kids at home doing stuff they want to do.

See, what I don't understand is the logic that says parents with children should shop on the internet, so that people who worry about their cars getting dented can use the P&C spaces.....

[All that jazz]

CAPP0 said:

This is a very old picture, taken on a cheap mobile phone years ago, so apologies for the quality and for the fact that I may have posted this before.

However, I guarantee you that this picture is in no way altered, photoshopped or re-touched, and there's no "angle" to it, ie the rest of the car park really is as empty as all that you can see.

This was an emergency run to a Toys R Us store late one evening to buy a present for a relative's child. My car is the Fiat and I parked away from the store in order to not be close to any other cars and risk any damage. I was only in the shop for 5-10 minutes, and the Micra was nowhere to be seen when I parked my car:



The same sort of thing has happened to me elsewhere since, I completely and utterly fail to understand it, to this day.

I've had that happen too and it drives me mad. What I do now is park so that the wheels on one side are just over line of the adjacent parking space. While this doesn't stop them from parking next to me, every one so far as parked in the space on the other side from the one I'm straddling so there is ample room for them to fully open their doors without reaching mine.

[lawrence567]

I used to have a Scenic, it would have the little ones seat in the back so i'd always park in the parent toddler bays if i had him, (so more than enough room to swing a cat either side of the car, the panel work was mint before i started parking in the parent child bays, within 6 months it had probably 4/5 dings from doors / trolleys, no idea how they managed to hit a car 6ft away.
I since traded that in & now have a Forfour Brabus, shamefully the other day i visited the supermarket, i went to the furthest away space as the panel work is mint on it (low mileage) & want to keep it that way.
There was 2 spaces side by side, but other than that it was pretty busy with only single spaces everywhere, so i did the selfish thing & parked right in the middle of the 2 spaces... yes it was a wker thing to do, but it meant my car did'nt get dinged!

[*Al*]

J4CKO said:

Needa308GT4 said:

my car park psychology.

If they look female or old, steer clear.

If it's a Honda Jazz/Vaux Agila/Daewoo Matiz, find a different parking area.

Park in the or Parent and baby spaces and if anyone questions it politely tell them you're collecting your elderly mother/grandmother (adapt to fit) or meeting your wife and kids in there.

I've also found the stty parking only happens in Tescos or Morrisons. If you go to Waitrose you find a better class of people that actually respect other people's possessions.

, really ?

You do know there are disabled petrol heads on PH, and I am sure they are big enough to ignore stuff like that and it is the least of their worries but I would perhaps edit that out, it isn't 1980 and we aren't all ten mocking poor old Joey Deacon.

Now there's a name i've not heard since school, people calling each other 'Joeys'. People can be so cruel.

[martin84]

grayze said:

Fixed that for you.

Oddly nobody wants to marry me. Can't think why...

[grayze]

Mave said:

grayze said:

Mave said:

irocfan said:

Mave said:

Well, if you're trying to get a baby out of a child seat, whilst holding onto a child at the same time, then being able to open the door properly makes it much more likely that the child won't be able to wriggle out of your hand and run off. (It also makes it far less likely that you'll inadvertently dent someone's car in the process!)

here's a stunning thought - don't take kids to the supermarket shopping. By the time they're old enough to have to try on clothes they don't need the P'n'C spaces anyway. You'll be doing yourself a favour in reduced stress, the kids a favour so they're not subject to the hell that is weekly food shopping and the rest of us a favour by not inflicting screaming kids on us all

That's a stunning thought. Should I just leave my kids home on their own to fend for themselves? Lets face it, this thread isn't about the specifics of P&C spaces, disabled spaces, or whether kids run across car parks; it's about people's attitudes, and whether they show consideration for anyone else

Heres another stunning thought, you all have internet, buy on line for home delivery saves jamming up the roads, car parks saves on fuel and stress and lets you spend more time with your kids at home doing stuff they want to do.

See, what I don't understand is the logic that says parents with children should shop on the internet, so that people who worry about their cars getting dented can use the P&C spaces.....

..... Who said just parents? All right minded folk should shop on the internet.