Cars you didn't know existed...

[Hugo a Gogo]

McAndy said:

D-Angle said:

The Ford Festiva, jointly developed with Kia.

Looks like a Daewoo Nexia.

It's a Kia

Nexia was GM, a facelifted Mk1 Astra (Kadett E) and it's still made, believe it or not

[CanAm]

Hugo a Gogo said:

It's a Kia

Nexia was GM, a facelifted Mk1 Astra (Kadett E) and it's still made, believe it or not

Mk 2 Astra

[wildcat45]

Hugo a Gogo said:

It's a Kia

Nexia was GM, a facelifted Mk1 Astra (Kadett E) and it's still made, believe it or not

Where's it sold? Any pix? Id love the thought of a new 1985 model MKII Astra GTE

[Hugo a Gogo]

wildcat45 said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

It's a Kia

Nexia was GM, a facelifted Mk1 Astra (Kadett E) and it's still made, believe it or not

Where's it sold? Any pix? Id love the thought of a new 1985 model MKII Astra GTE

sorry, Mk2 of course
Uzbekistan

still want one?

that car must have had more variants than any other ever made on the same bodyshell

edit: they still make the Bedford Rascal/Suzuki SuperCarry too
http://gm-uzbekistan.com/avto/damas/29-ceny-prays-...

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 27th November 08:52

[ajprice]

wildcat45 said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

It's a Kia

Nexia was GM, a facelifted Mk1 Astra (Kadett E) and it's still made, believe it or not

Where's it sold? Any pix? Id love the thought of a new 1985 model MKII Astra GTE

There are different model names around the world, but the 4 door is still made in Uzbekistan, and was facelifted in 2008 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daewoo_...

[McAndy]

Hugo a Gogo said:

It's a Kia

Nexia was GM, a facelifted Mk1 Astra (Kadett E) and it's still made, believe it or not

Indeed, as was stated. The rear profiles of the two cars are not dissimilar.

[MrTree]

viscountdallara said:

0llie said:

I also saw a Mk2 Clio saloon, it really wasn't a nice looking thing. Pleased it wasn't sold over here!

I spotted one of these in Stowmarket today, on a Turkish 'plate
It really does look better in photographs !!

Renault Symbol

Think 'mini' Belmont.... But uglier !! ...

These are basically a Dacia i saw loads of them in eastern europe

[deltashad]

MrTree said:

viscountdallara said:

0llie said:

I also saw a Mk2 Clio saloon, it really wasn't a nice looking thing. Pleased it wasn't sold over here!

I spotted one of these in Stowmarket today, on a Turkish 'plate
It really does look better in photographs !!

Renault Symbol

Think 'mini' Belmont.... But uglier !! ...

These are basically a Dacia i saw loads of them in eastern europe

I'm based in romania, there's loads of daewoo nexia Belmont things here, one parked in front of my car now, twin exit pipes, lots very untastefully modified.
The clio four doors are common here too, ugly little things which are also sold here rebodied as dacia logans, many of which are also badly modified. Actually there are a lot of badly modified cars here. Lovely people but not the best eye in the taste department.

[deltashad]

Some of Rainer Buchmanns work was very inspirational to many young car designer wannabes in the 70s/80s.

Just came across what I would have to say was not his finest hour

[BrabusMog]

jamiebae said:

The Nissan is an NV200 van but with the drivetrain from the Leaf.

The Dacia is a Lodgy - I went in a taxi version in Paris a few months ago and aside from the low-rent plastics it seemed OK actually. There is a related van called the Dokker which costs about £7k for a basic one here, and I'm sure would sell like hot cakes if launched in the UK. They're made in Morocco and that plant doesn't build RHD, although the Lodgy is also sold in India in RHD format.

Got given a Lodgy today as a courtesy car - very cheap inside but it had the same nav system in a Clio and it's easy to use. For such a large car it has quite a cramped driving position!

Edited by BrabusMog on Friday 27th November 14:30

[jamiebae]

On the subject of van based people carriers I sat in a Ford Tourneo Courier today. The dash is like a Fiesta, but there was at least a foot of extra room above my head compared to a normal car. There's so much space in the boot though, way more than in my Evoque, and decent rear seat room too, if it didn't look so strange I'd say it makes a lot of sense as a family car - miles cheaper than a Focus and more space inside too.

http://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-reviews/ford/tour...

[MadmanO/T People]

D-Angle said:

I like looking at what Ford come up with in other parts of the globe:

It's a Capri! In Australia, anyway.

Also sold in North America as a Mercury Capri.

D-Angle said:

The Ford Festiva, jointly developed with Kia.

And this rolling turd was called the Ford Aspire in North America.

[BrabusMog]

jamiebae said:

On the subject of van based people carriers I sat in a Ford Tourneo Courier today. The dash is like a Fiesta, but there was at least a foot of extra room above my head compared to a normal car. There's so much space in the boot though, way more than in my Evoque, and decent rear seat room too, if it didn't look so strange I'd say it makes a lot of sense as a family car - miles cheaper than a Focus and more space inside too.

http://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-reviews/ford/tour...

What was the road noise like? I was surprised by the Lodgy today, it sat at 130km/h and was very quiet for a van based car. I wouldn't buy one and it's slow as st (did a very tedious 240km today) but for the money they do make sense.

[jamiebae]

BrabusMog said:

What was the road noise like? I was surprised by the Lodgy today, it sat at 130km/h and was very quiet for a van based car. I wouldn't buy one and it's slow as st (did a very tedious 240km today) but for the money they do make sense.

I only had a look round it in the car park so can't comment - a colleague had it as a courtesy car for the day,

I assume the Lodgy was the 1.6 petrol version which isn't a great engine really, the 1.5 dCi or 1.2 tCe petrol version would be a lot better I expect.

[BrabusMog]

It was the 1.2tCe. Not bad, but I'd imagine it would struggle under a full load.

Filled it up with 200sek in fuel to hand it back and it went up to 400km remaining, so I'd imagine it does quite well on fuel.

[Blown2CV]

deltashad said:

Some of Rainer Buchmanns work was very inspirational to many young car designer wannabes in the 70s/80s.

Just came across what I would have to say was not his finest hour

would it be wrong of me to say that i love that?

[Jimmy Recard]

I also like that 600 and I don't care how dreadful I should think it is

[wildcat45]

Hugo a Gogo said:

sorry, Mk2 of course
Uzbekistan

still want one?

that car must have had more variants than any other ever made on the same bodyshell

edit: they still make the Bedford Rascal/Suzuki SuperCarry too
http://gm-uzbekistan.com/avto/damas/29-ceny-prays-...

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 27th November 08:52

The Belmont lives!

I kind of like it in a nostalgic way.

[MarshPhantom]

MadmanO/T People said:

D-Angle said:

I like looking at what Ford come up with in other parts of the globe:

D-Angle said:

The Ford Festiva, jointly developed with Kia.

And this rolling turd was called the Ford Aspire in North America.

Aspire?

[GroundEffect]

jamiebae said:

On the subject of van based people carriers I sat in a Ford Tourneo Courier today. The dash is like a Fiesta, but there was at least a foot of extra room above my head compared to a normal car. There's so much space in the boot though, way more than in my Evoque, and decent rear seat room too, if it didn't look so strange I'd say it makes a lot of sense as a family car - miles cheaper than a Focus and more space inside too.

http://vans.honestjohn.co.uk/van-reviews/ford/tour...

That's because its a Fiesta underneath

Ford do the Transit/Tourneo Connect (based on Focus platform) and Transit/Tourneo Courier based on Fiesta.