Cars you didn't know existed...

[Hub]

sleepera6 said:

Should be an easy one.
Or is it?

Oddly I opened this thread and thought about one of those that I saw the other day in Lymington - it was a green one and I really hadn't come across one before. An odd Land Rover Defender clone with quad headlights. I looked it up and worked it out as a Santana PS-10, but lo and behold someone else has posted one a few days ago!

[Steamer]

Hub said:

sleepera6 said:

Should be an easy one.
Or is it?

Oddly I opened this thread and thought about one of those that I saw the other day in Lymington - it was a green one and I really hadn't come across one before. An odd Land Rover Defender clone with quad headlights. I looked it up and worked it out as a Santana PS-10, but lo and behold someone else has posted one a few days ago!

Theres a white one by us that made me do a double take - how to they actually compare? Looks wise (from 40ft away) it looked identical all bar the quad lights

[Abbott]

[cj2013]

MorganP104 said:

I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall of the boardrooms at Pontiac and SsangYong (respectively) when those designs were signed off!

The SsangYong was designed, in brief, to be a road-going luxury yacht or something like that, hence the styling. They probably loved it. No one is out of touch with reality more than large corporation boardrooms.

[Dark85]

Abbott said:

Part of the Sultan of Brunei's collection I imagine, there's lots of properly mad and fairly pointless stuff in that.

[Blown2CV]

Abbott said:

I thought it was implied that this thread is about production cars?

[Jazzy Jag]

cj2013 said:

MorganP104 said:

I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall of the boardrooms at Pontiac and SsangYong (respectively) when those designs were signed off!

The SsangYong was designed, in brief, to be a road-going luxury yacht or something like that, hence the styling. They probably loved it. No one is out of touch with reality more than large corporation boardrooms.

Apart from Ken Greenly, the Brit that designed it 😁

[Trabi601]

Blown2CV said:

I thought it was implied that this thread is about production cars?

Well, it's certainly not about photoshops.

[phil y]

Steamer said:

Hub said:

sleepera6 said:

Should be an easy one.
Or is it?

Oddly I opened this thread and thought about one of those that I saw the other day in Lymington - it was a green one and I really hadn't come across one before. An odd Land Rover Defender clone with quad headlights. I looked it up and worked it out as a Santana PS-10, but lo and behold someone else has posted one a few days ago!

Theres a white one by us that made me do a double take - how to they actually compare? Looks wise (from 40ft away) it looked identical all bar the quad lights

They're way cheaper than Defenders, pretty sure they still have leaf spring suspension, as they're based on the Series 3

[Hugh Jarse]

Wills2 said:

Doofus said:

Hugh Jarse said:

I was ten years old.

So was I, there or thereabouts. I was just surprised, without any real reason. I just kind of assumed that if you've heard of a 924, you've heard of a 924 turbo.

Do you know of the 924 Carrera GT?



That's a turbo too

This is turning into the "cars you should have known existed" thread.

Here's another turbo from the same time, new for me at least...........

[poing]

Hugh Jarse said:

Here's another turbo from the same time, new for me at least...........

So when Fiat put a turbo engine in the new car it's a lot closer to the original than expected.

[Trabi601]

That's a new one to me - must have been a relatively popular aftermarket conversion in either the USA, or Sweden.

Fiat themselves supercharged them. Same engine as the Beta Volumex.

[LuS1fer]

Trabi601 said:

That's a new one to me - must have been a relatively popular aftermarket conversion in either the USA, or Sweden.

Fiat themselves supercharged them. Same engine as the Beta Volumex.

Me too. A quick Google:
"During 1981 and 1982, a partnership between Fiat and Legend Industries in America produced approximately 700 Turbo-Spiders. The stock engine compression ratio was lowered from 8:1 to 7:1, with special hoses and ducts feeding the intake charge from the turbo. A special exhaust manifold and downpipe were used. Enrichment and overboost switches were mounted on the left fenderwell. With peak boost of six psi at 3,000 rpm, the turbocharger brought horsepower from 86 to 115 horsepower. A boost gauge on the dash replaced the factory analog clock. Turbo-Spiders came equipped with 14" alloy wheels, stripe kit, and logo decals on the fenders. "

[Balmoral]

That's a pretty poor power output, blown or unblown, even for the day.

[Fast Bug]

Balmoral said:

That's a pretty poor power output, blown or unblown, even for the day.

Was that strangled by all of the smog gear though? That's around the time of the small block Chevy with 150 bhp

[xstian]

750turbo said:

Buzypea said:

6 years ago I accidentally stumbled across this Corolla TTE Compressor for sale on AutoTrader. Never knew such a thing existed. Took a test drive and was smitten so bought it.

I had one of those, 20K new, but pre-reg was 14K, oh and 27MPG. I did not keep it too long.

I have one of these too. It may not be the most engaging hot hatch ever made, but for day to day driving on the road I like it. Comfortable, well built, fairly quick and not as chavy as a Civic.

[CanAm]

Balmoral said:

That's a pretty poor power output, blown or unblown, even for the day.

Indeed; my dad's 1966 Rover 2000TC was 114bhp. And NOT supercharged!

[Jimmy Recard]

CanAm said:

Indeed; my dad's 1966 Rover 2000TC was 114bhp. And NOT supercharged!

Higher compression ratio (I would think) and not being strangled by 1970s/early 1980s US emissions gear

[RicksAlfas]

Fast Bug said:

Balmoral said:

That's a pretty poor power output, blown or unblown, even for the day.

Was that strangled by all of the smog gear though? That's around the time of the small block Chevy with 150 bhp

Yes. US spec engines were terrible for that.

A Euro spec Fiat Twin Cam 1.8 was about 115bhp - without a turbo.

[TIGA84]

Hugo a Gogo said:

this completely passed me by, never seen one, or the Opel version

Bloke that painted my house a few years back had one.

I never knew they existed either.