Do you press the button when applying the handbrake?

Do you press the button when applying the handbrake?

Poll: Do you press the button when applying the handbrake?

Total Members Polled: 447

No - why would I do that?: 19%
Yes - it seems like the thing to do: 79%
Count me out - all electric handbrake here: 1%
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Mark-C

5,063 posts

205 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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V8LM said:
With the fly-off handbrake I have to.
This for me to ...

wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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englisharcher said:
I never press it, I don't know why.
How do you un-apply the handbrake?

I push the button, pull the lever (ooh err), release the button, and one-more-click to be sure (as my handbrake knackered itself a few years ago making for interesting hill starts in Cardigan. Twunt behind me was inches off my butt and I couldn't take my foot off the brake without rolling back, even with HB applied!)

blueg33

Original Poster:

35,808 posts

224 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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rottie102 said:
Did he also never adjust the radio volume to to reduce the wear on the knob? wink
We didnt have radios in cars in those days wink


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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blueg33 said:
I was taught by my dad to push in the button on the handbrake when applying it to reduce wear on the ratchet.
It's a ratchet, it's meant to make that noise else it wouldn't be a ratchet. Sometimes people really miss the obvious wink

Also, have you ever heard of the ratchet being worn on a handbrake due to ratcheting.


And taking the line of thinking further, these make a noise when you use them in their intended fashion:



If you followed your Dad's advice on how to use a ratchet how on earth would you actually be able to use one of these?? biggrin

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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blueg33 said:
doogz said:
I usually pull the button in, although unless I'm on a hill, with 2 of the cars, I'll only pull the handbrake up to the first tooth anyway.

But has anyone ever had to replace a handbrake handle because they've actually worn the ratchet mechanism out, to the point it no longer holds? Does this actually happen?
I have no idea if they actually wear, its what my dad taught me, so its ingrained
Are we related? Maybe our dads learned from the same instructor.

It's just one of those things that I've always done, and always will.

Same as putting the clutch in when I turn the key to reduce the stress on the motor.

Also leaving my cars parked in gear with some lock applied in the right direction to roll into the kerb if my belt and braces parking routine weren't enough.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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R0G said:
We have 3 AD examiners who hate the ratchet handbrake noise and its not rocket science to push the button, after all, we do to release it !!
Doesn't that prove how dumb some of those guys are though.

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Also, have you ever heard of the ratchet being worn on a handbrake due to ratcheting.
Yup. I know someone who had an old Citroen BX (I think it was a BX, it was a long time ago) whose handbrake ratchet was worn to the point that it wouldn't stay on. smile

On the other hand, I've also read about cars rolling down hills into things because if you do push the button in, it sometimes doesn't engage properly and will loosen a "click".


Personally, I always do. I just don't like the noise.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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McSam said:
Obviously..

Basic mechanical sympathy failure for those who do not.
rofl

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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kambites said:
Yup. I know someone who had an old Citroen BX (I think it was a BX, it was a long time ago) whose handbrake ratchet was worn to the point that it wouldn't stay on. smile
The actual ratchet, or the whole mech? I had an e36 that had lots of slope, so if you bashed the handbrake or didn't hold it to the side then it wouldn't latch or would release. The ratchet part was fine though.

I also know of several early 50's Land Rover's that the ratchet is fine on and original plus some 60's tractors.

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
kambites said:
Yup. I know someone who had an old Citroen BX (I think it was a BX, it was a long time ago) whose handbrake ratchet was worn to the point that it wouldn't stay on. smile
The actual ratchet, or the whole mech?
The ratchet. We took it apart and it was worn remarkably smooth. Never seen it on another car, though.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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kambites said:
The ratchet. We took it apart and it was worn remarkably smooth. Never seen it on another car, though.
That's pretty impressive/shocking hehe

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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McSam said:
Obviously..

Basic mechanical sympathy failure for those who do not.
There is mechnical sympathy, and there is not using something because you're scared it'll break despite it being plenty strong enough.

The quarter million mile 325 I had still had a perfectly functional handbrake ratchet. My thumb will wear out first, so the ratchet can click a couple of times instead.

Manicminer

10,827 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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I push the button as taught when learning to drive many moons ago, I also use the gears to slow down too which I believe isn't needed or taught any more.

My cars manual even states that you shouldn't use the button when applying the handbrake but I just can't help myself. Old habits die hard.

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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No, I used to sell Vauxhalls, if you used the button sometimes they didn't apply properly and rolled across the pitch which was a touch awkward, not using the button cured that and it is habit now.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Oh god. God no. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

This question was an indirect reason that I left the IAM as an observer.

At an AGM once, we had a 90minute discussion on this topic. Old boys saying you absolutely MUST, and they'll criticise anyone (harshly) who does not. Someone then went out to the car park, got their Ford Fiesta manual from the glove box and showed that it says in the manual to hear the clicks.

But no, 90 mins. That really showed me what most of the group must have been like in a car with our new associates frown

My take? It doesn't matter, but for smoothness and less noise I push the button.

LC23

1,285 posts

225 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Not on the V8. Specifically says to leave the button well alone when applying the hand brake. At least I'm sure that's what the manual said when I read it when first buying the car!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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I mostly push the button, but that's just out of habit and not because I think ratchet-wear is remotely an issue, the ratchet will outlast most of the car easily.

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

231 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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I have actually had to replace the ratchet and pawl in the past.

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Where's the foot operated parking brake option?


nickbee

423 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th June 2012
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Do the button-pressers here also hold the door handle in the 'open' position until the car door is fuly closed, to stop the catch from wearing out?