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mph1977
5,014 posts
38 months
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8vFTW said: No, I don't wear it. It's uncomfortable, and unnecessary. I don't intend on crashing, and haven't since I passed 8 years ago. I can understand it being law for children etc, but frankly, as an adult I would like the choice of flying through the windscreen or not. It shouldn't, and isn't, up PC McPig. In that case you really ought to be looking at insurance to cover your negligence, insurance that will pay out 10s of millions of pounds with respect to your own injuries and the same again for anyone travelling with you being injured by your utter selfishness...
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masermartin
1,046 posts
47 months
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On a birthday trip to karting in Kent, a friend of mine refused to put a seatbelt on because another friend's (who was driving) car constantly bleeped about it. It was the old "it should be my choice, I'm not being dictated to by a machine, I can make my own decisions" blah blah blah.
If this had been me driving, we would have been going nowhere until he was either belted up, or driving himself in his own car. He did eventually do the belt up on the entry slip to the M25 ... but had been putting us at risk of random headbuts in case of an accident, and subjecting us to a bloody irritating bonging noise from the car for about 5 miles or so.
For some reason though, he was acting like a spoilt 4 year old that day and this was just a taste of things to come, he seems to lose 30 years sometimes for no obvious reason.
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Blib
20,889 posts
67 months
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This afternoon, I allowed a woman to reverse her car out of her drive. I noticed that she wasn't wearing a seatbelt, a woman passenger in the back wasn't wearing a seatbelt either and had a toddler sitting on her lap. And, to top it all, I could make out the handle of a baby carrier though the front passenger window. It wasn't buckled in.
Unbelievable.
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Vipers
15,630 posts
98 months
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With the amount of irrirots on our roads these days you need all the safety features manufactures offer. Anybody who cannot see the safety feature of a seat belt, should perhaps stay at home. For those of you who choose not to wear one, answer this simple question. Generally speaking, do wearing a seat belt protect you from more serious injury in an accident, Yes or No 
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silverfoxcc
1,243 posts
15 months
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8vFTW
you worry me very much. if you are not a grade 1 troll, can you tell us where you live so i can never be within 50 miles of you. 8 yrs experience, no doubt 7 o those wer on grand theft auto, and out of 250 million sperm, you were the fastest. There is no hope
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New POD
2,119 posts
20 months
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It's a Class thing.
Seriously, the people I see without seat belts have that urban look of aggression and stupidity.
Like smoking, I think we should encourage these 'types' of people to smoke and drive without seat belts in the vain belief that there will be fewer of these people make it to retirement, and therefore more money to go around.
The other day I went to the petrol station in our worst pickey looking car, a dodgy looking battered cavalier which amazingly has just got another 12 months MOT.
Parked next to me was a tit in a audi q7 with bald tyres, and the guy bought 20 quid of fuel.
and then a 59 plate focus with chavy looking occupants in their early 20's
There were two skinny tatoo'd lads in track suit bottoms, with vest tops, and two fat women with too thick make up, and a baby in a baby seat. Not one of the 5 had a seat belt, and they bought 15 quids worth of petrol in cash.
Now in the past I would have been horrified, think of the children etc. but these days I think well if they crash that's a marginal improvement to the overall gene pool.
The funniest thing is the occupants of both cars gave me a look like I was scum, for driving a 20 year old car with dents, and peeling laquer, but I've got tread on my tyres, and I know what a seat belts is for
Is this wrong? Have I become the man I used to hate ?
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masermartin
1,046 posts
47 months
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Blib said: This afternoon, I allowed a woman to reverse her car out of her drive. I noticed that she wasn't wearing a seatbelt, a woman passenger in the back wasn't wearing a seatbelt either and had a toddler sitting on her lap. And, to top it all, I could make out the handle of a baby carrier though the front passenger window. It wasn't buckled in.
Unbelievable. You can imagine how they would have railed against the world if anything had happened...
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blugnu
1,229 posts
111 months
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New POD said: It's a Class thing.
... and the guy bought 20 quid of fuel.
... chavy looking occupants in their early 20's... they bought 15 quids worth of petrol in cash.
Unless I'm going on a long journey I only ever put £20 of petrol at a time in, and I nearly always pay cash. I didn't realise it marked me out as the underclass.
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wst
1,081 posts
31 months
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New POD said: bought 20 quid of fuel. bought 15 quids worth of petrol in cash.
Is this wrong? Have I become the man I used to hate ? Yes. You've got a conifer up your arse. What's wrong with buying £20 of fuel? What's wrong with paying with, wait for it, money? Bloody hell Mrs. Bucket.
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New POD
2,119 posts
20 months
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blugnu said: New POD said: It's a Class thing.
... and the guy bought 20 quid of fuel.
... chavy looking occupants in their early 20's... they bought 15 quids worth of petrol in cash.
Unless I'm going on a long journey I only ever put £20 of petrol at a time in, and I nearly always pay cash. I didn't realise it marked me out as the underclass. Do you have tattoo's, an ugly fat girlfriend, white trainers, and would you put a child seat in a car without using the seatbelt ? I think you'll be okay then. My life is too short to spend it buying fuel, so I fill it up. Whatever it costs. It evens out in the long run. I could put £20 in once a week, or I could put £60 in the cav every 4 or 5 weeks. Last time I filled the Honda up with Deisel I'd done 580 miles, and it cost me £86, to go from fuel warning light on to full.
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martin84
5,366 posts
23 months
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8vFTW said: No, I don't wear it. It's uncomfortable, and unnecessary. I don't intend on crashing, and haven't since I passed 8 years ago. I can understand it being law for children etc, but frankly, as an adult I would like the choice of flying through the windscreen or not. It shouldn't, and isn't, up PC McPig. I like choice as well. I'd prefer for my taxes not going to pay for the Police to sweep you up and put you in a box just because you didn't use a seatbelt.
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New POD
2,119 posts
20 months
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wst said: es. You've got a conifer up your arse. What's wrong with buying £20 of fuel? What's wrong with paying with, wait for it, money? Bloody hell Mrs. Bucket. I've got a conifer at the end of my garden. Nothing wrong with paying cash, but I like to have a record so I use a credit card for fuel (with cash back points).
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Cotty
25,075 posts
154 months
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supersingle said: I never understand why people worry about road accidents or terrorist attack or getting eaten by sharks. They're all bloody unlikely to kill you. Ill give you the first two, although getting eaten by sharks is pretty much game over.
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Cotty
25,075 posts
154 months
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8vFTW said: No, I don't wear it. It's uncomfortable, and unnecessary. I don't intend on crashing Have you looked up the definition of accident recently. "An accident or mishap is an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance, often with lack of intention or necessity" No one intends to crash.
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icetea
846 posts
12 months
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martin84 said: I like choice as well. I'd prefer for my taxes not going to pay for the Police to sweep you up and put you in a box just because you didn't use a seatbelt. I have absolutely no stats to back this up but it might be cheaper from a tax payer point of view if people crash without seat belts... its far cheaper to do a post mortem than to do dozens of operations over several months 
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martin84
5,366 posts
23 months
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icetea said: I have absolutely no stats to back this up but it might be cheaper from a tax payer point of view if people crash without seat belts... its far cheaper to do a post mortem than to do dozens of operations over several months  Ok then forget the taxpayer point of view and look at the insurance point of view. Why should my premiums rise because he needs lifetime care due to not wearing a seatbelt?
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icetea
846 posts
12 months
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martin84 said: Ok then forget the taxpayer point of view and look at the insurance point of view. Why should my premiums rise because he needs lifetime care due to not wearing a seatbelt? Exact same point applies there though - there are less insurance costs if he goes through the windscreen and is instantly killed, rather than bounce around seat belted up and need someone wiping his arse for the next 50 years...
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martin84
5,366 posts
23 months
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icetea said: Exact same point applies there though - there are less insurance costs if he goes through the windscreen and is instantly killed, rather than bounce around seat belted up and need someone wiping his arse for the next 50 years... Plenty of people have accidents without seatbelts and survive. I am presuming those who do so have more care costs involved than those who crash with a seatbelt Ok ok ok I've got one which will get PH approval; The more people die on the roads - the more chance of a lower speed limit and more speed cameras. Check. Mate.
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icetea
846 posts
12 months
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martin84 said: Ok ok ok I've got one which will get PH approval; The more people die on the roads - the more chance of a lower speed limit and more speed cameras.
Check.
Mate. Or... allowing s  tty drivers to kill themselves by not wearing seat belts means they don't crash again... lowering insurance costs for everyone else.
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XJSJohn
13,372 posts
89 months
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0a said: if you see how taxi's drive here you want 4 point harness and a rollcage!
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