Stolen 1M CCTV footage

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Viperz888

558 posts

158 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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wollowizard said:
You think somebody should die for a car? That's a bit excessive.
I know its one thing saying stuff on the internet, and another being in a horrible situation in real life, but I'd definitely be up for a big scrap at the very least before I gave my keys up.

I'm young and have saved hard, both for my car and the ridiculous insurance premium, and would take me many years to get me to the same situation I am now if I had to claim, so to me, it doesn't seem that excessive.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

198 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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iphonedyou said:
Not really excessive, no. A high chance of death would likely prove a satisfactory deterrent.
It'd just mean that car thieves tooled up and we'd end up like America

PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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About 4/5 years ago I had a 120D 'M' sport. Came out to the car one morninbg and all the doors and windows were wide open and stuff had been taken out of the boot and glovebox. I had both keys in my pocket at all times! Police weren't intereted!

thetapeworm

11,225 posts

239 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Viperz888 said:
I know its one thing saying stuff on the internet, and another being in a horrible situation in real life, but I'd definitely be up for a big scrap at the very least before I gave my keys up.
The problem here is that this isn't just one little scrote breaking windows to take a sat nav, it's a gang of chaps who would be unlikely to just run off if the owner of the car suddenly confronted them frown


Olf

11,974 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Slagathore said:
How is they are smashing glass and the alarms aren't going off? Which bit of glass is it?
Can someone answer this please? I'm confused...

Dan_1981

17,387 posts

199 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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wollowizard said:
You think somebody should die for a car? That's a bit excessive.
I don't think someone should die for stealing a car no.

I think 4 people should die for thinking they've for some strange reason got the right to take someone else's property without a single thought for the effect and impact that it's likely to have on that individual.

It's not the stealing of a car, it's the whole fked up mindset that criminals have that makes them think they are entitled to take whatever they want and fk the consequences.

Absolute scum.

vonhosen

40,233 posts

217 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Olf said:
Slagathore said:
How is they are smashing glass and the alarms aren't going off? Which bit of glass is it?
Can someone answer this please? I'm confused...
That'll depend on what features the alarm has, not all have motion sensors etc.

davetibbs

136 posts

146 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Gutted for the OP too, as someone who's had to install CCTV at a previous house and had to then watch the hoody-over-cap-wearing pie key motherfkers prowl around my driveway, I can only imagine your anger.

I have to say that the tech they're using to steal the car is fascinating - if it's currently happening to cars that most people would consider to be a reasonably "premium" marque, I'd guess this can be pretty much be used with any car, given enough R&D?

A scary thought.

ApexJimi

24,977 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Dan_1981 said:
wollowizard said:
You think somebody should die for a car? That's a bit excessive.
I don't think someone should die for stealing a car no.

I think 4 people should die for thinking they've for some strange reason got the right to take someone else's property without a single thought for the effect and impact that it's likely to have on that individual.

It's not the stealing of a car, it's the whole fked up mindset that criminals have that makes them think they are entitled to take whatever they want and fk the consequences.

Absolute scum.
This, with bells on yes

kmpowell

2,926 posts

228 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Olf said:
Slagathore said:
How is they are smashing glass and the alarms aren't going off? Which bit of glass is it?
Can someone answer this please? I'm confused...
They broke the glass and ensured the remains didn't enter the alarm trigger zone. They also didn't open the door before the ODB port was used to program the clone key and unset the alarm. The ODB port is accessible by keeping your arm as close as posible to the dash, ensuring the alarm will not go off.

In short, BMW alarms have a blind spot that is being exploited in these two combined ways. Then along with the ODB port key programmer, means the theft is easy.



Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 1st July 23:02


Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 1st July 23:03

TheProfessor

158 posts

145 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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wollowizard said:
You think somebody should die for a car? That's a bit excessive.
Its this type to attitude to other peoples property, and there for the severity of the punishment that gets my back up.

There are parts of the legal system that have the attitude that if you can afford to purchase and insure the item its just a "material" loss that your insurer will pick up the bill for, therefore your loss is mitigated by the insurance policy and the cover provided.

I met several years ago one of these "liberal" practitioners of the law who had this very attitude, and also believed that to a greater extent that the purchase of an expensive Car, Watch, TV etc and leaving it out in the open was nothing more than placing temptation in the way of his down trodden clients.

Three strikes and you out I'm sure would be a better solution/deterrent here.

To the OP, gutted for your loss.


The Moose

22,845 posts

209 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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I'm not entirely sure they should increase the security of these cars. Let's be honest - the guys who come with the kit to reprogram the key fob are not opportunistic people. They've invested in kit and I would imagine are stealing to order. They're going to take the car whether they have to do what they did there, or if they have to pour petrol over your family and stand over them with a lit match until you give them the keys.

Either way, end result is car gone but I know which I would rather happened to me...

NightRunner

12,230 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Dan_1981 said:
wollowizard said:
You think somebody should die for a car? That's a bit excessive.
I don't think someone should die for stealing a car no.

I think 4 people should die for thinking they've for some strange reason got the right to take someone else's property without a single thought for the effect and impact that it's likely to have on that individual.

It's not the stealing of a car, it's the whole fked up mindset that criminals have that makes them think they are entitled to take whatever they want and fk the consequences.

Absolute scum.
aka the underclass.

Slagathore

5,810 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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kmpowell said:
Olf said:
Slagathore said:
How is they are smashing glass and the alarms aren't going off? Which bit of glass is it?
Can someone answer this please? I'm confused...
They broke the glass and ensured the remains didn't enter the alarm trigger zone. They also didn't open the door before the ODB port was used to program the clone key and unset the alarm. The ODB port is accessible by keeping your arm as close as posible to the dash, ensuring the alarm will not go off.

In short, BMW alarms have a blind spot that is being exploited in these two combined ways. Then along with the ODB port key programmer, means the theft is easy.



Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 1st July 23:02


Edited by kmpowell on Sunday 1st July 23:03
There must be a technique they use to just break a small bit of the glass, then?

I'd have thought the whole glass would shatter under the force of a blow, so they must be doing something to isolate that small area?

Shocking, either way.

As said, you'd expect, on a premium car, all areas would be covered by the sensors, especially all around the windows. You shuldn't have to spend £43k on a car and then have to fit more security measures.



Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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calibrax said:
The worst thing is it's not the first time the owner was robbed. The first time was when he paid BMW £43k for a 1 series BMW...
Ah yes....

Typical words of an accountant.

Wait....oh..

r1ch

2,871 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Gutted for you mate, that must be sickening.

A £43k BMW should not be this easy to steal! frown

Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

182 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Jesus! That was easy for them to half-inch.

I hope my E34 525i isn't vulnerable to this method.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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vonhosen said:
Olf said:
Slagathore said:
How is they are smashing glass and the alarms aren't going off? Which bit of glass is it?
Can someone answer this please? I'm confused...
That'll depend on what features the alarm has, not all have motion sensors etc.
At £43k I'd expect it to have all, and a Tracker.

r1ch

2,871 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Fort Jefferson said:
At £43k I'd expect it to have all, and a Tracker.
I agree, it should come with its own bouncer that stands next to it at night for that much.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Sunday 1st July 2012
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Surely BMW could sort this by putting the ODP port somewhere more suitable?