RE: Video: Key fob reprogrammers steal BMW in 3 mins
Discussion
405dogvan said:
Interior 'scanning' alarms have always been shonky and crap for this stuff - the way the technology works it's VERY hard to cover the whole interior without making 'false' triggers commonplace.
False triggers keep dealers very busy - and having to take your car into the dealer because the alarm keeps going off is bloody annoying and tends to cause manufacturers to score poorly on those customers satisfaction indexes.
Of course in this case there's a super-super-simple solution - if the alarm is armed and something connects to the OBD port, it should go off surely?
Then there's no need to fk around with the interior sensors...
Agreed, that's what I was getting at, not that it omits 4 inches, I can understand that, but the fact that the OBD port can be accessed without triggering it so it is put out of sight of the interior sensors, and accessible through a window?False triggers keep dealers very busy - and having to take your car into the dealer because the alarm keeps going off is bloody annoying and tends to cause manufacturers to score poorly on those customers satisfaction indexes.
Of course in this case there's a super-super-simple solution - if the alarm is armed and something connects to the OBD port, it should go off surely?
Then there's no need to fk around with the interior sensors...
That's imho the biggest design flaw.
MarJay said:
Simple to sort, put a lockable cover over the OBD port. My BMW has a key that goes with the electronic doodad that passes for a key, so it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to make the OBD port lockable...
, or like 405dogvan suggested: alarm armed -> OBD port "used" -> sound alarm
Or, like you said, an alarm-triggered lockable cover.
roger.daltrey said:
In reply to previous poster about the tracker - you can buy a 'jammer' from Amazon of all places
See this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mini-Jammer-Blocker-Vehicl...
Only £20 and it blocks GPS
Didn't know it was this easy !!
Seems to make Trackers redundant if they are this easy to overcome ?
" the use and sale of GPS jammers is illegal"See this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mini-Jammer-Blocker-Vehicl...
Only £20 and it blocks GPS
Didn't know it was this easy !!
Seems to make Trackers redundant if they are this easy to overcome ?
I love the fact these people can steal our cars easily and yet we re charged from the dealer £70ish minimum to programme a key for our cars!! what are we paying this amount for? if it just makes our cars easy to steal? If anyone is stealing VWs in cornwall and wants to progrmme my spare key for me drop me an email at mister.dave88@gmail.com thanks.
Can't the manufactures just put the OBD port in the engine bay? Chances are if the car is being serviced/diagnosed anyway that the bonnet will be up. You would need to alarm the bonnet, but I'm sure most bmws have this?
Will also save demolishing the interior trim looking for the obd port on a new vehicle.
Will also save demolishing the interior trim looking for the obd port on a new vehicle.
MarJay said:
Simple to sort, put a lockable cover over the OBD port. My BMW has a key that goes with the electronic doodad that passes for a key, so it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to make the OBD port lockable...
daft isn't it. such a simple solution yet STILL hasn't been implemented. what a joke.Have a similar story to this but they weren't quite successful, my neighbor was coming home from the pub and saw 2 people tampering with my car (Audi RS4) and managed to scare them off, fortunately they hadn't damaged anything but I did visit my neighbor the next day with a rather large bottle of Whisky lol.
misterdave said:
I love the fact these people can steal our cars easily and yet we re charged from the dealer £70ish minimum to programme a key for our cars!! what are we paying this amount for? if it just makes our cars easy to steal? If anyone is stealing VWs in cornwall and wants to progrmme my spare key for me drop me an email at mister.dave88@gmail.com thanks.
What car?Exact address?
Closed garage or parking lot?
MarJay said:
Simple to sort, put a lockable cover over the OBD port. My BMW has a key that goes with the electronic doodad that passes for a key, so it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to make the OBD port lockable...
or put in a new OBD port and reroute the wiring there, whilst wiring the original port up to something very high voltage/ampage.Aizle said:
So PistonHeads, with all your industry contacts, I assume you have accidentally sent a link to BMW PR.
First time this story has made it to the front page of a huge motoring website?
More than that - we spoke to BMW beforewriting the story, but they don't feel they can make any more comment than that which we've quoted.First time this story has made it to the front page of a huge motoring website?
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