RE: Video: Key fob reprogrammers steal BMW in 3 mins
Discussion
Gmail said:
Hi, Im thinking of buying a used bmw (2007) from a private dealer, is it possible that the another fob could be copied by previous owner or the dealer himself and after I purchase it it could get stolen, is something like that possible? (I dont fully trust private dealers)
No, you can't copy a fob.The issue here was adding e new fob onto the car, not copying fobs.
Obviously if you don't get both fobs, that can keep one...
ZesPak said:
Well, couldn't "they" have just "added" a third one in advance?
Oh yes, if they have the kit, which is clearly not difficult to get, and if the car hasn't had the software updated.But if you've got an original key, you can add a new key to any car.
If the seller fails to give you all the keys, it's always an issue no matter what the car.
bertie said:
ZesPak said:
Well, couldn't "they" have just "added" a third one in advance?
Oh yes, if they have the kit, which is clearly not difficult to get, and if the car hasn't had the software updated.But if you've got an original key, you can add a new key to any car.
If the seller fails to give you all the keys, it's always an issue no matter what the car.
I have talked to two dealerships this week on the topic.
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bertie said:
CraigyMc said:
The software update BMW are using to "rectify" this only affects the window.
I have talked to two dealerships this week on the topic.
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Sorry, I don't understand??I have talked to two dealerships this week on the topic.
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One is a fix to stop it being so easy to wind a window down without the correct key.
Another is a fix to stop it being so easy to register new keys without an original key being present.
In my dealings with BMW this week, I've found that they are doing the first fix from these. Actually changing the car so it cannot program a new key without the original one being present is not something they (the dealer service department staff) know about.
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CraigyMc said:
There's been discussion of a number of potential things BMW are doing to shore up the security on their cars.
One is a fix to stop it being so easy to wind a window down without the correct key.
Another is a fix to stop it being so easy to register new keys without an original key being present.
In my dealings with BMW this week, I've found that they are doing the first fix from these. Actually changing the car so it cannot program a new key without the original one being present is not something they (the dealer service department staff) know about.
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so a complete cop-out then....One is a fix to stop it being so easy to wind a window down without the correct key.
Another is a fix to stop it being so easy to register new keys without an original key being present.
In my dealings with BMW this week, I've found that they are doing the first fix from these. Actually changing the car so it cannot program a new key without the original one being present is not something they (the dealer service department staff) know about.
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stunning.
CraigyMc said:
There's been discussion of a number of potential things BMW are doing to shore up the security on their cars.
One is a fix to stop it being so easy to wind a window down without the correct key.
Another is a fix to stop it being so easy to register new keys without an original key being present.
In my dealings with BMW this week, I've found that they are doing the first fix from these. Actually changing the car so it cannot program a new key without the original one being present is not something they (the dealer service department staff) know about.
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My X5 was update last October, and the fix I was informed about was the removal of the ability to add keys over the diagnostics without and original key.One is a fix to stop it being so easy to wind a window down without the correct key.
Another is a fix to stop it being so easy to register new keys without an original key being present.
In my dealings with BMW this week, I've found that they are doing the first fix from these. Actually changing the car so it cannot program a new key without the original one being present is not something they (the dealer service department staff) know about.
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As Thatcham didn't recategorise these cars in light of these vulnerabilities are they now having to create some new, ultra sooper dooper, mega secure category for these BMWs that have been issued with the fix?
As a customer, especially used, how are people supposed to identify the new ultra sooper dooper secure BMWs from the ones that haven't had this 'fix'?
As a customer, especially used, how are people supposed to identify the new ultra sooper dooper secure BMWs from the ones that haven't had this 'fix'?
Apologies if this has already been answered, but has anyone listed exactly which models of BMW are at risk? The reason I ask is my Granddad has recently purchased a 2011 E92 3-series and I told him to speak to the dealer before he bought it about any updates or recalls for some sort of fix for the theft issues, but they said there was nothing that could be done. Does that sound right?
Exactly the same thing seems to now be happening to the Mk2 Focus ST and RS too.
Exactly the same thing seems to now be happening to the Mk2 Focus ST and RS too.
David87 said:
Apologies if this has already been answered, but has anyone listed exactly which models of BMW are at risk? The reason I ask is my Granddad has recently purchased a 2011 E92 3-series and I told him to speak to the dealer before he bought it about any updates or recalls for some sort of fix for the theft issues, but they said there was nothing that could be done. Does that sound right?
Exactly the same thing seems to now be happening to the Mk2 Focus ST and RS too.
Call BMW UK on 0800 083 4397 to see if your grandad's car is affected.Exactly the same thing seems to now be happening to the Mk2 Focus ST and RS too.
It's "most BMW's built from 2007 to September 2011".
If the dealer's service department doesn't know what you're talking about when you ask directly, get BMW UK to put you through after you talk with them about it, on that number.
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EddieFelson said:
bertie said:
My X5 was update last October, and the fix I was informed about was the removal of the ability to add keys over the diagnostics without and original key.
So what happens if you lose the original key?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff