RE: Damon Hill against 80MPH speed limit

[VictorMeldrew]

Limpet said:

bigdog3 said:

Damon Hill is rumoured to be seeking the post of High Profile Spokesman for Brake Charity. He will lead the charge for "Stopping the Carnage, Supporting the Victims" ...

That moment when the last flicker of respect you had for someone is extinguished. Right there.

I agreed with this sentiment. Apparently you don't, but I know what I read and what I think about it, so don't patronise me huh?

[TheHeretic]

VictorMeldrew said:

Limpet said:

bigdog3 said:

Damon Hill is rumoured to be seeking the post of High Profile Spokesman for Brake Charity. He will lead the charge for "Stopping the Carnage, Supporting the Victims" ...

That moment when the last flicker of respect you had for someone is extinguished. Right there.

I agreed with this sentiment. Apparently you don't, but I know what I read and what I think about it, so don't patronise me huh?

So don't quote me on an utterly unrelated issue. Limpet suggested Damon was going to BRAKE, etc, and someone was sad because of it. I mentioned that he was making it up, and you quote me on THAT, that start talking about stuff Damon said that was utterly unrelated.

Patronising indeed. As I said, go back and follow the quotes.

[Potatoes]

[VictorMeldrew]

TheHeretic said:

So don't quote me on an utterly unrelated issue. Limpet suggested Damon was going to BRAKE, etc, and someone was sad because of it. I mentioned that he was making it up, and you quote me on THAT, that start talking about stuff Damon said that was utterly unrelated.

Patronising indeed. As I said, go back and follow the quotes.

With all due respect, I didn't quote you at all. I quoted Limpet, who was not quoting you either. While I'm sure I'm probably missing out on the path of true enlightenment and missing a life changing opportunity, it's my birthday, so I'm going to pass on your kind invitation to follow up on your pearls of wisdom. Thanks.

[Potatoes]

VictorMeldrew said:

With all due respect, I didn't quote you at all. I quoted Limpet, who was not quoting you either. While I'm sure I'm probably missing out on the path of true enlightenment and missing a life changing opportunity, it's my birthday, so I'm going to pass on your kind invitation to follow up on your pearls of wisdom. Thanks.

"I don't believe it!"

[TheHeretic]

VictorMeldrew said:

TheHeretic said:

So don't quote me on an utterly unrelated issue. Limpet suggested Damon was going to BRAKE, etc, and someone was sad because of it. I mentioned that he was making it up, and you quote me on THAT, that start talking about stuff Damon said that was utterly unrelated.

Patronising indeed. As I said, go back and follow the quotes.

With all due respect, I didn't quote you at all. I quoted Limpet, who was not quoting you either. While I'm sure I'm probably missing out on the path of true enlightenment and missing a life changing opportunity, it's my birthday, so I'm going to pass on your kind invitation to follow up on your pearls of wisdom. Thanks.

Uh huh... Here... I'll help you out with some visual aids.



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So, just to make it easy for you... I quoted your response to Limpets reaponse to a made up comment. You then quoted my response and started talking about something entirely untreated to what I was responding to. That's why I told you to go back and check what it was you were responding to.

See how easy that was.

Edited by TheHeretic on Friday 6th July 16:29

[Potatoes]

Boom!!

Believe that Victor!

[VictorMeldrew]

TheHeretic said:

Uh huh... Here... I'll help you out with some visual aids.



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So, just to make it easy for you... I quoted your response to Limpets reaponse to a made up comment. You then quoted my response and started talking about something entirely untreated to what I was responding to. That's why I told you to go back and check what it was you were responding to.

See how easy that was.

To make it easy for you, I was responding to Limpets quote in the context of the original article, IN ISOLATION, which I beleived to be his response to the article article on Damon. There was no quote relating to you or any indication that Limpets comment was in any way related to you. Silly me, I forgot to read the entire thread and put every single response on it into the context of your geocentric (hereticcentric?) universe. Get over yourself man. Top marks for patronising condescension though, but I can't help thinking you're actually trying a bit too hard now.

[TheHeretic]

Ah, so ignoring any train of discussion that was surreally going on, quoting something, then talking about something completely different whilst quoting me for seemingly no apparent reason. Gotcha.

[VictorMeldrew]

It ain't about you mate, that's the bottom line, so out of my face please.

[TheHeretic]

VictorMeldrew said:

It ain't about you mate, that's the bottom line, so out of my face please.

[VictorMeldrew]

"A hate monger, apparently." Go figure.

[TheHeretic]

VictorMeldrew said:

"A hate monger, apparently." Go figure.

"Please take any comments made by me on this site under extreme advisement!" - Shall do.

[VictorMeldrew]

Touche

[TheHeretic]

Indeed. Here Endeth the conflict.

[VictorMeldrew]

Call that a conflict? Not even an argument. A disagreement, that's all that was. I want my money back.

[TheHeretic]

I paid a fiver.

[VictorMeldrew]

No you didn't.

[TheHeretic]

Don't get me started.

[LongQ]

SirBlade said:

kambites said:

Hard to obtain and to keep hold of. Just because someone was a good driver once, doesn't mean they still are.

Agreed.
All drivers should be put through a thirty minute reassessment every 5 years.
Those over sixty, should be reassessed every year.

There speaks the wisdom of youth.

A few years back I took the time to try to analyse the official RTA data files. Making anything useful out of them, in terms of pinpointing common problems, was somewhat fruitless. However on interesting aspect was that on a per capita basis if one excluded 'new' drivers - i.e. 17 to early 20s lets say, the exact ages don't matter much - the next highest accident rate involving fatalities and injury was in the early 30s to early 40s group. Consistently, year after year. From mid 40s onwards the rate of involvement quite sharpely and above 60 or so (in those days many people were retiring at that sort of age - little hope of that in the future) the involvment rate, as a driver, was quite low.

As a percentage of the number of licenced drivers it rose a little after th age of 80 but by then there were so few on the road that it made little difference to the outright numbers - purely a percentage increase.

I might be useful to have some sort of facts to discuss here from time to time - but opinions are so much more interesting to get worked up about.

As for Mr. Hill? Well, he follows a long tradition of successful motorsport 'names' who have decided that their fellow men and women are all incompetent to drive vehicles or ride bikes. It seems to be something one has to do later in life as a former champion of something. I haven't seen anyone attach any facts to support his anecdotal evidence but if any of you have a link that does (there may be one, I have not yet read the entire thread) I would be interested to read it.

Perhaps we could try out the concept by putting speed limiters on F1 cars. If it saves someone getting injured, etc., etc.

Better still introduce the limit in, say, 2020, and require that any cars capable of more than 60mph when designed will be banned from the roads at that date. At the same time mandate that all new cars should be very light weight, with very thin A, B and C pillars for good visibility and do at least 30kms per litre. Most journeys will, by then, be in built-up areas likely the subject of 20mph limits so visibility will trump the speed at which one can travel.