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_Batty_

11,617 posts

119 months

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L100NYY said:
One or two yes.

I worked for Alfa Romeo at that time

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Better just to be looked at or 'cruised' in IMHO smile
Still lovely cars mind.

Justayellowbadge

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29,382 posts

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L100NYY said:
Justayellowbadge said:
At 40K the premium on that SZ is less than I'd have expected tbh. You could afford to add a less pampered one to actually drive.
Really not a lot is it, £40k for a (as near as) delivery mileage Zagato bodied Alfa.
Considering the prices (asked) recently for similar miled E30s and Integrales, it does seem very snapitupwhileyoustillcannable.

L100NYY

26,767 posts

112 months

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Justayellowbadge said:
L100NYY said:
Justayellowbadge said:
At 40K the premium on that SZ is less than I'd have expected tbh. You could afford to add a less pampered one to actually drive.
Really not a lot is it, £40k for a (as near as) delivery mileage Zagato bodied Alfa.
Considering the prices (asked) recently for similar miled E30s and Integrales, it does seem very snapitupwhileyoustillcannable.
Absoruddylutely.

W00DY

7,848 posts

95 months

Justayellowbadge

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I need a barn. And some money. So many cars I want.



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S3_Graham

10,637 posts

68 months

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L100NYY said:
_Batty_ said:
L100NYY said:
Ref the GTV Cup.

Oh yes.
Driven one?
One or two yes.

I worked for Alfa Romeo at that time

wink
Mine was great fun. Always lovely to look at.

May get destroyed but I prefer the looks of the non fussy standard 2L / 3L with teledials!

L100NYY

26,767 posts

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S3_Graham said:
L100NYY said:
_Batty_ said:
L100NYY said:
Ref the GTV Cup.

Oh yes.
Driven one?
One or two yes.

I worked for Alfa Romeo at that time

wink
Mine was great fun. Always lovely to look at.

May get destroyed but I prefer the looks of the non fussy standard 2L / 3L with teledials!
I like the look of both to be honest so no destroying from me here smile

CampDavid

7,699 posts

67 months

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_Batty_ said:
Or a GTV for 1/10th

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4025084.htm
Mines doing very well, and the noise cloud9
See, if you asked the average non-car bod to guess the price on both, either £4k or £40k, most would probably go big for both cars. Shame the GTV isn't on the old rear drive chassis, I love front drivers but that car would really suit a bit of a tail wiggle under throttle


_Batty_

11,617 posts

119 months

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CampDavid said:
See, if you asked the average non-car bod to guess the price on both, either £4k or £40k, most would probably go big for both cars. Shame the GTV isn't on the old rear drive chassis, I love front drivers but that car would really suit a bit of a tail wiggle under throttle
The OEM suspension is so soft that i doesn't allow anything much other than understeer


S3_Graham

10,637 posts

68 months

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CampDavid said:
_Batty_ said:
Or a GTV for 1/10th

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4025084.htm
Mines doing very well, and the noise cloud9
See, if you asked the average non-car bod to guess the price on both, either £4k or £40k, most would probably go big for both cars. Shame the GTV isn't on the old rear drive chassis, I love front drivers but that car would really suit a bit of a tail wiggle under throttle
Spoke to my old man about the 7 last night. His response, how can you afford that etc, thinking its about 10k

Beefmeister

10,793 posts

99 months

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_Batty_ said:
Or a GTV for 1/10th

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4025084.htm
Mines doing very well, and the noise cloud9
That is shockingly good value - though I always felt the front splitter was a bit heavy-handed on the Cup. Still looks lovely though, and what a noise, especially with a fruity 'zorst.

Good friend of mine had a Cup with an Alfaholics exhaust, I never got tired of hearing that thing drive away.

BorkFactor

4,864 posts

27 months

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Are these Alfas really as good as some crack them up to be?

Can't say I have even sat in one! I do find the looks a bit questionable, but these interiors look lovely.

Beefmeister

10,793 posts

99 months

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Oh my. My want runneth over.

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That is one fat ass I would love to see on my driveway.

DJRC

19,819 posts

105 months

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Good to see we are starting up with 2 of my favourite motors of all time smile

The only trouble with an "as new" SZ is that you would have to keep it that way. The standard SZ is vastly improved by a visit to Autodelta and as such, you can have an SZ packing 300 ponies+, depending whether you wish to go to 3.7NA or supercharge.

The interior really is one of the best car interiors ever.

There are the same price pretty much as my 308 last yr, so Benny boy, if a suitably abused one finds its way to your hallowed doors, ie. one that H&M dont think they can charge an outrageous premium on for something ( smile ) then you know where to place your first call.

The twin screw Vantage is my perfect Aston and *will* come under my grubby mits one day.

V8mate

34,915 posts

58 months

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Bookmarked.

Output Flange

12,246 posts

80 months

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Ref: the C43 at the end of the last volume - a friend of mine just picked up a C32 estate for a whisker more than that, which appears to have no issues with rust (I said appears, before you all start) and seems like a very nice car for the cabbage. I suspect that's where my money would go.

CampDavid

7,699 posts

67 months

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S3_Graham said:
CampDavid said:
_Batty_ said:
Or a GTV for 1/10th

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4025084.htm
Mines doing very well, and the noise cloud9
See, if you asked the average non-car bod to guess the price on both, either £4k or £40k, most would probably go big for both cars. Shame the GTV isn't on the old rear drive chassis, I love front drivers but that car would really suit a bit of a tail wiggle under throttle
Spoke to my old man about the 7 last night. His response, how can you afford that etc, thinking its about 10k
Had this a couple of times with Dad. When I took the 7 round for his approval he popped it up the road and was most impressed.

_Batty_

11,617 posts

119 months

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BorkFactor said:
Are these Alfas really as good as some crack them up to be?

Can't say I have even sat in one! I do find the looks a bit questionable, but these interiors look lovely.
Depends...
my old review some years back:
Batty said:
Everyone wants a bargin.
Otherwise there would be no Macro, Tesco value, or Vauxhall.
So when daydreaming of Italian hypercars such as Lambo’s and Zondas (notice I didn’t say Ferrari) and you happen upon a 200bhp+ Italian coupe, what should stop you?

Well I’m lucky enough to have 2 of the Italian beauties currently residing on our drive.

First off a Fiat coupe turbo 20v. Styled by the pen of ‘flame surfacing’ Chris jingle jangle Bangle the car is like marmite. Either you love it or hate it.
But you cannot argue that it invokes some passion within you.
So already its plan is working, its getting under your skin.
Opening the hidden handles on the door pillars reveals an Italian interior. You know the sort, beautiful, stylish and about as well constructed as the theory of religion.
Swoops of tan leather and a very neat body colour dash trim make you feel like you’re in something special. The fisher price door handles do not.
Twist the key and the 20v inline 5 cylinder catches with awkward idle, with hints of group b Quattro about it.
The gearstick throw is notchy, but doesn’t impede proceedings as you move off.
Plant the throttle though and any concerns of the quality of the Christmas cracker stitches are pushed to the headrest.
0-60 in 6.5 doesn’t do the 220bhp car justice.
As the 25-60mph seems to happen in 2 seconds. Such is the kick of the turbo.
Rather uncouth for such a pretty car to hit you soo hard and in one big lump, that can cause problems modulating corners.
But it is rather addictive.
Brakes are the same Brembo Calipers as the Alfa, and have a slightly vague feel to them, but work well when needed.
The ride is soft but comforting, which indicates good damping, with minimal body roll.
At £2.5k for a tatty 20v the cars are well worth a look, but should they really be half the price of the bigger brother, the Alfa GTV.
Styled by Pininferina the car looks odd at best with the large slice rising to the flanks adding to its drama.
This is not going to be confused with a focus.
No door handles here, just a button, with releases the door enough to put your fingers down the beautifully crafted slot, to open the door.
Inside is the same flair and style, but this time material have been chosen that might actually outlast the warranty.
Typically as with the coupe, the seating is all wrong (Italians having one arm and one leg longer than the other apparently). Add to this the Momo leather park bench seat support, and already you’re disappointed.
However twist the bright red key and the big 3.0 24v V6 catches into a menacing deep tickover.
Nothing, but nothing sounds like an Italian V6.
Except perhaps the orgasm calls of Jessica Alba.
The V6 is soo progressive and soo smooth, that next to the fireworks of the Turbo, it almost feels tame.
But the car is so easy to modulate, so easy to push that’s its easier to hustle.
Even if the seat cause you to keep the windows up for fear of falling out.
At £4k for the Alfa its almost twice that of a fiat coupe.
It offers less rear legroom, a small padded shoe box for a boot. Its more thirsty and has complicated suspension that cannibals itself every 3 miles.
But this car makes you feel special.
The noise the looks and the special glow it leaves cannot be bought.
So to summarise, if you fancy a weekend floosie, buy the alfa.
It will steal your money, make you cry and make your friends jealous.
The fiat will do 90% of the above, but will also make your tea and wash your socks.




Its not a drivers car. its an owners car. BIG difference.

S3_Graham

10,637 posts

68 months

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BorkFactor said:
Are these Alfas really as good as some crack them up to be?

Can't say I have even sat in one! I do find the looks a bit questionable, but these interiors look lovely.
The looks are amazing chap! What other car at that price point looks better!?

L100NYY

26,767 posts

112 months

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DJRC said:
Good to see we are starting up with 2 of my favourite motors of all time smile

The only trouble with an "as new" SZ is that you would have to keep it that way. The standard SZ is vastly improved by a visit to Autodelta and as such, you can have an SZ packing 300 ponies+, depending whether you wish to go to 3.7NA or supercharge.

The interior really is one of the best car interiors ever.

There are the same price pretty much as my 308 last yr, so Benny boy, if a suitably abused one finds its way to your hallowed doors, ie. one that H&M dont think they can charge an outrageous premium on for something ( smile ) then you know where to place your first call.

The twin screw Vantage is my perfect Aston and *will* come under my grubby mits one day.
Good morrow D.

I agree with regards the SZ interior, it really is just fantastic and is one of my favourites of any modern. The seats, the simple dash, that steering wheel all add up to a gorgeous package indeed.

The 300km car is a tough cookie but as per my initial post if money is no object then you either use it and don't worry or buy another and use that instead.

An Autodelta'd SZ is on my Bucket List.

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