RE: VW Golf A59: The stillborn European Evo
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robinoz said:
VW themselves made a mk2 16v Golf with two engines under the bonnet.
Engine bay was a little tight but it went like stink!
Pics? Having owned a MK2 16v there's no chance you'd get two in there! - Although I'd love to be corrected.Engine bay was a little tight but it went like stink!
I've seen a few twin engined VW's, some factory (or R&D lab anyway) and a few homebrew - but they all have the second lump in the boot.
There's also a MK1 somewhere with the v8 from the Porsche 968, but they widened the whole car.
P-Jay said:
Pics? Having owned a MK2 16v there's no chance you'd get two in there! - Although I'd love to be corrected.
I've seen a few twin engined VW's, some factory (or R&D lab anyway) and a few homebrew - but they all have the second lump in the boot.
There's also a MK1 somewhere with the v8 from the Porsche 968, but they widened the whole car.
If you mean this one,I've seen a few twin engined VW's, some factory (or R&D lab anyway) and a few homebrew - but they all have the second lump in the boot.
There's also a MK1 somewhere with the v8 from the Porsche 968, but they widened the whole car.
http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ge...
That wasn't a VW project, just a short run by another company. The whole car was about 15% bigger than a Mk1 Golf to house the 928 underneath.
G.
Edited by gforceg on Friday 13th July 11:49
P-Jay said:
robinoz said:
VW themselves made a mk2 16v Golf with two engines under the bonnet.
Engine bay was a little tight but it went like stink!
Pics? Having owned a MK2 16v there's no chance you'd get two in there! - Although I'd love to be corrected.Engine bay was a little tight but it went like stink!
I've seen a few twin engined VW's, some factory (or R&D lab anyway) and a few homebrew - but they all have the second lump in the boot.
VW Motorsport did 2 Sciroccos. One was more hardcore with throttle bodies (blue), the other more trimmed (maroon):
http://forums.subdriven.com/showthread.php?2808604...
They also did a Jetta, as in the link. One could easily be rather cynical and just say these were PR exercises with bosses nodding concentratedly whilst the magazines played with and photographed them. The blue one is in VW's Wolfsburg museum.
VW Motorsport then made 3 successive twin-engined Mk2 Golfs for Pikes Peak, in 1985-1987. The first two had transverse engines and were in Golf bodyshells, but the '87 car is just a shadow car on an aluminium tub / spaceframe:
http://www.veegeek.com/apps/blog/show/14236872-vw-...
The '87 one spends time between VW's Wolfsburg museum and KWL Motorsport who maintain it, the '86 one is in private hands somewhere and I'm not sure about the '85 car.
Various private twin engined cars have been created in the UK and beyond, the first being Kim Mather's Mk2 Scirocco which was successful in rallying to the point of getting itself banned by the MSA, whilst tuners have variously put twin engines in Golfs 1-3 and sprinted them with success.
GravelBen said:
Ali_T said:
Why can't the Golf R have that level of attitude? I also remember, years ago, reading of a project by Honda, based on the then-new Integra which was 4wd and a supercharged B18 of around 240bhp, back in 91/92. Car drove it, I believe, but it never made production, nor was it used for rallying. The DC2 came about instead.
Here's the article for those interested:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/jkeirnan/unt...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/jkeirnan/unt...
Here's the article for those interested:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/jkeirnan/unt...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/jkeirnan/unt...
Had never even heard of that, very interesting.
F1GTRUeno said:
Such a cool thing, hope it gets more exposure.
Like this and the Integra, we need to see more of these type of things. Maybe a thread dedicated to engineering projects like this that were never made and never aknowledged.
Like this and the Integra, we need to see more of these type of things. Maybe a thread dedicated to engineering projects like this that were never made and never aknowledged.
Both really should have been made...and I'd love to hear about more such stillborn ideas...
Fabulouss stuff, gutted that you didn't get to drive it. LOL at the twin engined Scirocco and Jetta. I remember the Scirocco but not the Jetta. Wasn't there a slightly mad version of the Polo Breadvan body shape too (early 80s), don't think it was twin engined but it definitely had blistered wheelarches, can't for the life of me remember what it was called tho'
Here is the Polo, it was called the Polo SPrint!
http://www.polodriver.com/polo-1981-1994/1983-polo...
http://www.polodriver.com/polo-1981-1994/1983-polo...
Chris Eyre said:
The twin-engined cars were all one in the front, one in the back.
VW Motorsport did 2 Sciroccos. One was more hardcore with throttle bodies (blue), the other more trimmed (maroon):
http://forums.subdriven.com/showthread.php?2808604...
They also did a Jetta, as in the link. One could easily be rather cynical and just say these were PR exercises with bosses nodding concentratedly whilst the magazines played with and photographed them. The blue one is in VW's Wolfsburg museum.
VW Motorsport then made 3 successive twin-engined Mk2 Golfs for Pikes Peak, in 1985-1987. The first two had transverse engines and were in Golf bodyshells, but the '87 car is just a shadow car on an aluminium tub / spaceframe:
http://www.veegeek.com/apps/blog/show/14236872-vw-...
The '87 one spends time between VW's Wolfsburg museum and KWL Motorsport who maintain it, the '86 one is in private hands somewhere and I'm not sure about the '85 car.
Various private twin engined cars have been created in the UK and beyond, the first being Kim Mather's Mk2 Scirocco which was successful in rallying to the point of getting itself banned by the MSA, whilst tuners have variously put twin engines in Golfs 1-3 and sprinted them with success.
Thats the car i was talking about the blue one with the white ATS wheels love that car !VW Motorsport did 2 Sciroccos. One was more hardcore with throttle bodies (blue), the other more trimmed (maroon):
http://forums.subdriven.com/showthread.php?2808604...
They also did a Jetta, as in the link. One could easily be rather cynical and just say these were PR exercises with bosses nodding concentratedly whilst the magazines played with and photographed them. The blue one is in VW's Wolfsburg museum.
VW Motorsport then made 3 successive twin-engined Mk2 Golfs for Pikes Peak, in 1985-1987. The first two had transverse engines and were in Golf bodyshells, but the '87 car is just a shadow car on an aluminium tub / spaceframe:
http://www.veegeek.com/apps/blog/show/14236872-vw-...
The '87 one spends time between VW's Wolfsburg museum and KWL Motorsport who maintain it, the '86 one is in private hands somewhere and I'm not sure about the '85 car.
Various private twin engined cars have been created in the UK and beyond, the first being Kim Mather's Mk2 Scirocco which was successful in rallying to the point of getting itself banned by the MSA, whilst tuners have variously put twin engines in Golfs 1-3 and sprinted them with success.
BlueRSedFly said:
Here is the Polo, it was called the Polo SPrint!
http://www.polodriver.com/polo-1981-1994/1983-polo...
I forgot about this one it has to be my second favorite crazy VW after the twin Scirroco, thanks for reminding me !http://www.polodriver.com/polo-1981-1994/1983-polo...
There's a lot of Mk4 in the styling of that car, than Mk3.
Like the Golf G60 and Rallye that preceded it, a bit of a folly really, in an utterly fantastic way.
Every Escort Cosworth was sold by Ford at a loss, and they weren't cheap compared by any means .... VW would have haemoraged millions bringing this to the showroom at anything like a similar price to the Ford or Lancia.
Like the Golf G60 and Rallye that preceded it, a bit of a folly really, in an utterly fantastic way.
Every Escort Cosworth was sold by Ford at a loss, and they weren't cheap compared by any means .... VW would have haemoraged millions bringing this to the showroom at anything like a similar price to the Ford or Lancia.
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