RE: PH does the Alps

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Matt UK

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201 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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don logan

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223 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Dan Trent said:
Great to hear the other stories and thanks for the pics Watchman - quite a convoy there! I'll have to man up and drive the Caterham there solo next time though, in mitigation, I had other stuff to be doing out there too necessitating the van!

The Forclaz stretch over the Swiss border is brilliant - totally deserted, very open, fast and well surfaced - but I take on board the advice to try the St Bernards the other way round. Next time maybe!

Keep 'em coming!
I think it might be because the Bernards and Forclaz are more "open" / faster in the anti clock direction which is also UP hill if that makes sense, so you can enjoy pushing on without having to look after brakes so much!

That sounds wrong reading it back, what I mean is, the fastest and most open sides of all those passes are all the uphill sides when heading anti clockwise and they are in succession. Ooof!!!

M666 EVO

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163 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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TinyCappo said:
Think this was your route,

http://tinyurl.com/PH-route

your spine must have been close onto powder by the time you finished that run. +100 Man points though smile

I really want to try this but I know my car is by no means as fuel efficient as the Caterham but it just seems wrong to do this without a V6 or similar wailing away behind your head.

Are there many Petrol stations on the route?
I have a question for everyone, help needed:

Me and the missus are driving to southern Italy in a couple of weeks and so far I have googled the places to and from to get an idea of miles and time. But how can I plan a journey so I see as much of the good stuff (like ALL the pictures in this story) rather than the basic point to point etc etc

Any help appreciated!

don logan

3,522 posts

223 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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M666 EVO said:
I have a question for everyone, help needed:

Me and the missus are driving to southern Italy in a couple of weeks and so far I have googled the places to and from to get an idea of miles and time. But how can I plan a journey so I see as much of the good stuff (like ALL the pictures in this story) rather than the basic point to point etc etc

Any help appreciated!
I don't do satnavs but use these headings as a guide, drive to Chamonix stay the night, then head through the mt blanc tunnel, do a right and head to val d'isere, then head for col de galibier, stay the night in Briancon, head for col de vars then col de bonette, then head for Nice, when you get there turn left, pass Monaco and stay the night in Portofino, then head to southern italy, on your way home don't turn left for the return route, head north for torino and head for col de moncenisIo which will eventually give you the option to retrace your steps back through val d'isere and pt st bernard, at the bottom of pt bernard turn right then left over gr bernard and do what Dan did in reverse!

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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TangoGTR said:
Great article!!

Myself and fellow ph'er TokenJock are trying to talk ourselves in to 300 mile drive up motorway to the Highlands later this year, to experience the great roads there. With 80mph equating to approx 5k revs though, could be a bit noisy wink

Photo from recent blat :-



Edited by TangoGTR on Tuesday 17th July 17:53
Which gearbox and what diff ratio have you? Even a 6-speed box is better than that with a 3.62:1 diff.

40-odd Se7ens made it around Scotland on the original Haggis Hunt back in 2001. Here's a little over half of them outside one of the spectacular hotels we stayed at:



The weather was as spectacular as the hotels, scenery, and the cars.

TangoGTR

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182 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Watchman said:
Which gearbox and what diff ratio have you? Even a 6-speed box is better than that with a 3.62:1 diff.
I have a 2006 roadsport, which comes with 3.92 different as standard, yet it was specced with most of the superlight bits incl 6 speed box. Flip side is pretty good acceleration smile

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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TangoGTR said:
Watchman said:
Which gearbox and what diff ratio have you? Even a 6-speed box is better than that with a 3.62:1 diff.
I have a 2006 roadsport, which comes with 3.92 different as standard, yet it was specced with most of the superlight bits incl 6 speed box. Flip side is pretty good acceleration smile
Yeah, there are one or two of the Se7ens crowd with this set-up. It *is* hard work on motorways.

I recall one of them changed diff to a 3.62 but one just removed his windscreen and now gorges himself on monstrous acceleration. hehe

Fox-

13,241 posts

247 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Fantastic pictures. Any good recommendations further towards Austria? Heading up the Stelvio Pass and then over to Stuttgart next month and would appreciate some good places to see stunning scenery once up the Stelvio!

Cotty

39,581 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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That looks fantastic, hope to do it in the Elise one day

Watchman

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246 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Fox- said:
Fantastic pictures. Any good recommendations further towards Austria? Heading up the Stelvio Pass and then over to Stuttgart next month and would appreciate some good places to see stunning scenery once up the Stelvio!
I've a ton of PDFs describing the Se7ens list Italy2003 tour. Happy to share. PM me.

Cotty

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285 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Watchman said:
I've a ton of PDFs describing the Se7ens list Italy2003 tour. Happy to share. PM me.
I just tried to PM you to cheekly ask for a copy but got a message saying "Oops...
Sorry - the recipient doesn't permit emails"

Any chance you could PM me s copy paperbag

Watchman

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246 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Cotty said:
Watchman said:
I've a ton of PDFs describing the Se7ens list Italy2003 tour. Happy to share. PM me.
I just tried to PM you to cheekly ask for a copy but got a message saying "Oops...
Sorry - the recipient doesn't permit emails"

Any chance you could PM me s copy paperbag
Oh sorry about that. I didn't know. I'll change the settings. One sec.

Watchman

6,391 posts

246 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Sorted now.

Watchman

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Tuesday 17th July 2012
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And emailed you. smile

BBS-LM

3,972 posts

225 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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That looks so mush fun. biggrin

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Great feature. I'll be driving over the Grand St Bernard on Sunday smile

tfwebdesign

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194 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Look better with a Westfield........ shoot




Cotty

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Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Watchman said:
And emailed you. smile
Thanks, replied from my Sky account.

wst

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162 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Youtube auto-stabilisation made me feel seasick watching the video. Good sound though!

MC Bodge

21,652 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Fantastic stuff. Is there any better driving anywhere?

I'm currently down t'Alps way myself. I've done most of that route before, in quicker machinery. I've had to make do with driving the family estate over the passes this time. When the passengers are asleep there's fun to be had running with the locals. Smoothness (move that weight around gently), heel/toe(blip that diesel) and looking ahead/around the hairpins(not so easy in a tin-top with poor visibility) are the keys.

It's a pity I haven't put a motorbike rack on the towbar. Oh Well, I did ride the TT mountain course the other week, so it's not all bad ;

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 17th July 21:16