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cocopop
983 posts
74 months
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djad1200 said: Undertaking doesn't exist
My reasons why is that the PENIS in the middle lane should only be there if either
A) he is overtaking (which they're not)
B) he is turning right(which he is not)
He has no right to be there and no place being there. So therefore I am not in the wrong by undertaking
In order for me to be told off for undertaking. I would demand that the police officer pull over that penis in the middle lane and ask if he was overtaking or turning right. At the point that he says no my point will be proven I'd quite like to see this. Could you rig up a GoPro and post it on Youtube?
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Captain Muppet
5,886 posts
134 months
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PintOfKittens said: I did that exact journey on Saturday, and I noticed the same thing. I noticed something else too - around Dunkirk, GB plated bikes, in the outside lane, doing 85mph, and not moving over. YOU might be unstable doing over 85, but dont f  king hold me up for 25km because you cant be arsed to pull in for a few seconds. Every bike I've ridden has become more stable with speed, so maybe they were just idiots.
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PintOfKittens
1,336 posts
59 months
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Captain Muppet said: Every bike I've ridden has become more stable with speed, so maybe they were just idiots. There were massive sidewinds - you could literally see it hit the biker, and he'd drift half way across the lane...
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jon-
11,648 posts
85 months
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Chris71 said: I think the fact most of our motorways are three or four lanes makes people lazier than they are on the continent. This. Land dicipline on dual carriage ways isn't actually that bad (in my area at least) and the majority of people understand to keep left unless overtaking, and if see you flash while approaching them in the right hand lane will move over. 3 / 4 lane motorways make people lazy, plus the fact NO ONE LETS YOU OUT if you're in lane 1, someone is in lane 2 with lane 3 clear. It's made me consider the phrase "if you can't beat them, join them" more than once.
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djad1200
Original Poster
126 posts
10 months
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cocopop said: djad1200 said: Undertaking doesn't exist
My reasons why is that the PENIS in the middle lane should only be there if either
A) he is overtaking (which they're not)
B) he is turning right(which he is not)
He has no right to be there and no place being there. So therefore I am not in the wrong by undertaking
In order for me to be told off for undertaking. I would demand that the police officer pull over that penis in the middle lane and ask if he was overtaking or turning right. At the point that he says no my point will be proven ok then seeming as tho England us huge in health and safety What's more healthy and safety Staying in your same lane traveling at the same speed or speeding up to vertake mr or mrs KNOB in the middle lane. Swerving out into 2 more lanes of traffic just to go back to yours same position its bad for the environment as you will kick out more emissions and bad for your pocket because of more tyre tread used and more fuel used So tell the pigs to stick that in their pipe and smoke it
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B.J.W
3,793 posts
84 months
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This middle lane hogging thing is complete news to me...... Does this really happen in the real world....... if so, why has it never been discussed on here before? Frankly, I am amazed.
You will be telling me next that these middle lane hoggers gesticulate angrily at you and flash their main beam when you overtake them and pull into the inside lane....or worse.....undertake them.
I blame the road builders - if they hadn't built motorways with 3 lanes then we would never have had this issue in the first place - if it indeed does exist.
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cocopop
983 posts
74 months
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djad1200 said: cocopop said: djad1200 said: Undertaking doesn't exist
My reasons why is that the PENIS in the middle lane should only be there if either
A) he is overtaking (which they're not)
B) he is turning right(which he is not)
He has no right to be there and no place being there. So therefore I am not in the wrong by undertaking
In order for me to be told off for undertaking. I would demand that the police officer pull over that penis in the middle lane and ask if he was overtaking or turning right. At the point that he says no my point will be proven I'd quite like to see this. Could you rig up a GoPro and post it on Youtube? ok then seeming as tho England us huge in health and safety What's more healthy and safety Staying in your same lane traveling at the same speed or speeding up to vertake mr or mrs KNOB in the middle lane. Swerving out into 2 more lanes of traffic just to go back to yours same position its bad for the environment as you will kick out more emissions and bad for your pocket because of more tyre tread used and more fuel used So tell the pigs to stick that in their pipe and smoke it I don't disagree with what you're saying, I would just quite like to see you put the argument into practice.
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essexplumber
7,283 posts
42 months
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Killboy said: As I'm fairly new here, and feel free to shoot me down for asking this, but I need some clarity on thie middle lane hogging thing.
Lets take for example the A2. 3 or 4 lanes each way heading out of London. In my experience, the left most lane is a little "worn" from trucks and heavy vehicles, giving a slightly rougher ride and more chance of diesel spills. And generally as I drive a little quicker than most road users, I stick to the middle lane, and in traffic am usually in the fast lane overtaking. As this is usually during busy periods, I'm guessing you would agree that there is little point in a switching to the slow lane when 100m ahead there is a truck you doing 20mp/h more than?
If it was 2am, due to the road surface in some parts, I'd probably still stick to the middle lane. Is this wrong? I simply to to drive with the least hindrance to other road users.
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Bill
26,350 posts
124 months
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jon- said: Chris71 said: I think the fact most of our motorways are three or four lanes makes people lazier than they are on the continent. This. Land dicipline on dual carriage ways isn't actually that bad (in my area at least) and the majority of people understand to keep left unless overtaking, and if see you flash while approaching them in the right hand lane will move over. 3 / 4 lane motorways make people lazy, plus the fact NO ONE LETS YOU OUT if you're in lane 1, someone is in lane 2 with lane 3 clear. It's made me consider the phrase "if you can't beat them, join them" more than once. This (all of it) + relatively low traffic levels on the continent. In rush hour it's at least as bad as it is here but with more impatience IME.
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djad1200
Original Poster
126 posts
10 months
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cocopop said: djad1200 said: cocopop said: djad1200 said: Undertaking doesn't exist
My reasons why is that the PENIS in the middle lane should only be there if either
A) he is overtaking (which they're not)
B) he is turning right(which he is not)
He has no right to be there and no place being there. So therefore I am not in the wrong by undertaking
In order for me to be told off for undertaking. I would demand that the police officer pull over that penis in the middle lane and ask if he was overtaking or turning right. At the point that he says no my point will be proven I'd quite like to see this. Could you rig up a GoPro and post it on Youtube? ok then seeming as tho England us huge in health and safety What's more healthy and safety Staying in your same lane traveling at the same speed or speeding up to vertake mr or mrs KNOB in the middle lane. Swerving out into 2 more lanes of traffic just to go back to yours same position its bad for the environment as you will kick out more emissions and bad for your pocket because of more tyre tread used and more fuel used So tell the pigs to stick that in their pipe and smoke it I don't disagree with what you're saying, I would just quite like to see you put the argument into practice. I will then just out of curiosity has anyone ever been done for undertaking ??? also my last point I would make to pc plod would be something like this "was i ??????....... i thought I was overtaking !! just with all of them knobs sitting in that lane I forgot which contry I was in" I would then ask him what is wrong with undertaking to which he would probably say it is dangerous I would then ask him if he is sure it is dangerous and when he confirms I would pass him my mobile and tell him to ring the president of the united states to tell him that anyone overtaking on the left hand side of the car is driving dangerously and must be punished, same in germany same in france :P only joking im all mouth. I would say however that I thought that w****r in that middle lane was turning right :P so i thought I was allowed to do that haha
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playalistic
1,527 posts
33 months
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Killboy said: As I'm fairly new here, and feel free to shoot me down for asking this, but I need some clarity on thie middle lane hogging thing.
Lets take for example the A2. 3 or 4 lanes each way heading out of London. In my experience, the left most lane is a little "worn" from trucks and heavy vehicles, giving a slightly rougher ride and more chance of diesel spills. And generally as I drive a little quicker than most road users, I stick to the middle lane, and in traffic am usually in the fast lane overtaking. As this is usually during busy periods, I'm guessing you would agree that there is little point in a switching to the slow lane when 100m ahead there is a truck you doing 20mp/h more than?
If it was 2am, due to the road surface in some parts, I'd probably still stick to the middle lane. Is this wrong? I simply to to drive with the least hindrance to other road users.
Congrats for having the kahoonas to admit this, however I fear you are now about to be summarily torn a new arse...
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Captain Muppet
5,886 posts
134 months
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PintOfKittens said: Captain Muppet said: Every bike I've ridden has become more stable with speed, so maybe they were just idiots. There were massive sidewinds - you could literally see it hit the biker, and he'd drift half way across the lane... Oh. Yeah, not good in winds.
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R300will
3,589 posts
20 months
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Killboy said: As I'm fairly new here, and feel free to shoot me down for asking this, but I need some clarity on thie middle lane hogging thing.
Lets take for example the A2. 3 or 4 lanes each way heading out of London. In my experience, the left most lane is a little "worn" from trucks and heavy vehicles, giving a slightly rougher ride and more chance of diesel spills. And generally as I drive a little quicker than most road users, I stick to the middle lane, and in traffic am usually in the fast lane overtaking. As this is usually during busy periods, I'm guessing you would agree that there is little point in a switching to the slow lane when 100m ahead there is a truck you doing 20mp/h more than?
If it was 2am, due to the road surface in some parts, I'd probably still stick to the middle lane. Is this wrong? I simply to to drive with the least hindrance to other road users. Your car should be able to cope with the mild groove in the road caused by lorry tyres.
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djad1200
Original Poster
126 posts
10 months
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I feel that the groove is there on the middle lane of the lorrys too because they use that lane as well !!!!
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Captain Muppet
5,886 posts
134 months
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R300will said: Killboy said: As I'm fairly new here, and feel free to shoot me down for asking this, but I need some clarity on thie middle lane hogging thing.
Lets take for example the A2. 3 or 4 lanes each way heading out of London. In my experience, the left most lane is a little "worn" from trucks and heavy vehicles, giving a slightly rougher ride and more chance of diesel spills. And generally as I drive a little quicker than most road users, I stick to the middle lane, and in traffic am usually in the fast lane overtaking. As this is usually during busy periods, I'm guessing you would agree that there is little point in a switching to the slow lane when 100m ahead there is a truck you doing 20mp/h more than?
If it was 2am, due to the road surface in some parts, I'd probably still stick to the middle lane. Is this wrong? I simply to to drive with the least hindrance to other road users. Your car should be able to cope with the mild groove in the road caused by lorry tyres. I think this is the "TVR" defence for using the wrong lane. It's been used before, but usually as the start to a bit of a row. Doesn't bother me as my suspension works fine when I undertakepass on the left.
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vixen1700
6,436 posts
139 months
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djad1200 said: "was i ??????....... i thought I was overtaking !! just with all of them knobs sitting in that lane I forgot which contry I was in" 
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R300will
3,589 posts
20 months
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Captain Muppet said: R300will said: Killboy said: As I'm fairly new here, and feel free to shoot me down for asking this, but I need some clarity on thie middle lane hogging thing.
Lets take for example the A2. 3 or 4 lanes each way heading out of London. In my experience, the left most lane is a little "worn" from trucks and heavy vehicles, giving a slightly rougher ride and more chance of diesel spills. And generally as I drive a little quicker than most road users, I stick to the middle lane, and in traffic am usually in the fast lane overtaking. As this is usually during busy periods, I'm guessing you would agree that there is little point in a switching to the slow lane when 100m ahead there is a truck you doing 20mp/h more than?
If it was 2am, due to the road surface in some parts, I'd probably still stick to the middle lane. Is this wrong? I simply to to drive with the least hindrance to other road users. Your car should be able to cope with the mild groove in the road caused by lorry tyres. I think this is the "TVR" defence for using the wrong lane. It's been used before, but usually as the start to a bit of a row. Doesn't bother me as my suspension works fine when I undertakepass on the left. Dad's driven the caterham in the left lane and not suffered any issues so the reason for it seems a bit daft. But i'm also with you that i would not really care and pass on the left, but make sure the driver i was going past knew they were in the wrong with a stern look. They s t themselves  removes stick on goatee and shoulderpads
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phumy
3,744 posts
106 months
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djad1200 said: Im not saying that British people can't drive im saying people in Britain can't drive
My reasons
Just drove back from Poland on 2 lane motorways where the speed limit is 140kmh
I drove through Poland Germany Netherlands Belgium and France in one day
All on 2 lane motorways
Everyone stays in the right lane unless overtaking (even the British)
Otherwise they get rammed out of the way
Anyway get back into the UK and those exact same people who were driving correctly in Europe are now HOGGING the middle lane at 60mph
I mean "WHY"
They can drive properly in Europe so why when the get back to the UK do they revert back to this pig headedness ?? You have answered your own question, you say all on 2 lane motorways through Europe, didnt you realise on a 2 laner there is no f king middle lane you muppet. But if there was it would have been rammed full of Polish, Germans, Belgians and Frogs.
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djad1200
Original Poster
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10 months
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Killboy
620 posts
71 months
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R300will said: Killboy said: As I'm fairly new here, and feel free to shoot me down for asking this, but I need some clarity on thie middle lane hogging thing.
Lets take for example the A2. 3 or 4 lanes each way heading out of London. In my experience, the left most lane is a little "worn" from trucks and heavy vehicles, giving a slightly rougher ride and more chance of diesel spills. And generally as I drive a little quicker than most road users, I stick to the middle lane, and in traffic am usually in the fast lane overtaking. As this is usually during busy periods, I'm guessing you would agree that there is little point in a switching to the slow lane when 100m ahead there is a truck you doing 20mp/h more than?
If it was 2am, due to the road surface in some parts, I'd probably still stick to the middle lane. Is this wrong? I simply to to drive with the least hindrance to other road users. Your car should be able to cope with the mild groove in the road caused by lorry tyres. I'm more concerned about my bike. I've hit diesel before, and its not fun. Anyways, I've admitted to it. I get in the most appropriate lane for my speed. Trying to get into the left lane on the A2 at every possible chance doing 75-80 would be exhausting, and if someone is coming up behind me and I can move over I will.
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