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Leins
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18 months
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For me, the E30 M3 has never been replaced, and whilst I love the 1M, I'm slightly sorry that BMW/M didn't go through with the original idea of the lightweight, 4-cyl, 250bhp screamer 1-series that was being touted back around 2006. Think the marketing department may have got their way there, as they seem to be doing more and more now that Gerhard Richter has sadly departed Other than that, hopefully Renault Alpine will make that comeback. I miss the likes of the GTAs and A610. Speaking of the French, I also miss the MVS Venturi as an alternative non-Italian mid-engined supercar that wasn't an Esprit  Finally, there aren't enough manufacturers taking the engine from the front and putting it in the back anymore. This one-off Micra 350SR is the last I can remember. Come on Renault, give us a Twingo V6! 
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Captain Muppet
6,276 posts
135 months
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Leins said: For me, the E30 M3 has never been replaced, The GT86 pretty much matches all it's numbers. Just needs to have box wheel arches, an annoying gear layout, slightly more rear leg room and the right badge on the front.
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Alex
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154 months
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DanDC5
7,024 posts
37 months
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crispyshark said: Honda S2000...why they never developed a 2.5lt or 3.0ltr v6 is beyond me..... Interesting random geek fact. At Honda's training centre place thing where the mechanics are all sent before they start working for Honda there is an NSX engined S2000 in the workshop, apparently they built it just to see if it was possible...
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Vitorio
464 posts
13 months
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Captain Muppet said: The GT86 pretty much matches all it's numbers. Just needs to have box wheel arches, an annoying gear layout, slightly more rear leg room and the right badge on the front. Meh, the toyota is about a second slower to 60, has 60% of the e30s boot space, doesnt have a middle seat in the back. It is a nice car, but not an M3 replacement imho, i think the 1M is closer in that regard.
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Alex
6,305 posts
154 months
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crispyshark
457 posts
15 months
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DanDC5 said: crispyshark said: Honda S2000...why they never developed a 2.5lt or 3.0ltr v6 is beyond me..... Interesting random geek fact. At Honda's training centre place thing where the mechanics are all sent before they start working for Honda there is an NSX engined S2000 in the workshop, apparently they built it just to see if it was possible... Brilliant 'geek' fact! God i would've loved to have driven that! A real shame honda didn't develop it! 
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J4CKO
7,595 posts
70 months
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The Demographic that used to buy Capri's now buy the Audi A5
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Alex
6,305 posts
154 months
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J4CKO said: The Demographic that used to buy Capri's now buy the Audi A5 Or TT.
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Leins
1,255 posts
18 months
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Captain Muppet said: The GT86 pretty much matches all it's numbers. Just needs to have box wheel arches, an annoying gear layout, slightly more rear leg room and the right badge on the front. I spent a lot of yesterday trying to keep up with a late-model 215bhp M3, those things are seriously quick. Now I can't really comment on the Toyota as haven't seen one yet, but I wonder do they really have the raw focus and attitude of an original M3?
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Rushmore
1,223 posts
12 months
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alangla
581 posts
51 months
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Pretty much all the homologation cars - the OP mentioned the Delta Integrale, I'd contend that there isn't an equivalent of the Escort/Sierra Cosworth (ever seen a 4WD Fiesta RS?) or anything really close to the current WTCC or BTCC field (don't get me started on DTM...)
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J4CKO
7,595 posts
70 months
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Vitorio said: Captain Muppet said: The GT86 pretty much matches all it's numbers. Just needs to have box wheel arches, an annoying gear layout, slightly more rear leg room and the right badge on the front. Meh, the toyota is about a second slower to 60, has 60% of the e30s boot space, doesnt have a middle seat in the back. It is a nice car, but not an M3 replacement imho, i think the 1M is closer in that regard. Not yet maybe, current versions are more 325i than M3, it is certain that subsequent iterations and versions will be a lot faster, Toyota and Subaru will grab the early adopters with the cooking versions and then release serveral different specs, they all have previous on that score, have you ever looked at the Subaru Impreza model history ? Cant do much about the boot space though.
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stackmonkey
4,880 posts
119 months
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white_goodman said: This thread stems from my current car, a 2004 Impreza WRX Estate, a car which I have kept far longer than I originally planned to, simply becasue it is a difficult car to replace. As an estate car, it is poor in terms of practicality compared to say a Focus Estate but as a more practical high-performance hatchback it is difficult to beat. I was under the impression the new Focus ST will become available as an estate?
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LeoZwalf
2,007 posts
100 months
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3 door Escort estate. Imagine a 3 door Focus estate...  Also 2 door saloons like the Jetta (also Escort) aren't made anymore. 
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Leins
1,255 posts
18 months
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LeoZwalf said: Also 2 door saloons like the Jetta (also Escort) aren't made anymore Yes they are, but it's just that manufacturers prefer to call them coupes now 
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Harry H
388 posts
26 months
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Alex said: J4CKO said: The Demographic that used to buy Capri's now buy the Audi A5 Or TT. Don't be daft. Can you honestly imagine Bodie and Doyle driving an Audi TT FFS
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Alex
6,305 posts
154 months
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Harry H said: Don't be daft. Can you honestly imagine Bodie and Doyle driving an Audi TT FFS Does the Audi TT FFS have the five cylinder engine? 
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SSCooperS
664 posts
34 months
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The Racing Puma.
I still haven't found anything comparable. The closest I've found is the Renaultsport Clio 200 Cup, but it's not a coupe.
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Captain Muppet
6,276 posts
135 months
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Leins said: Captain Muppet said: The GT86 pretty much matches all it's numbers. Just needs to have box wheel arches, an annoying gear layout, slightly more rear leg room and the right badge on the front. I spent a lot of yesterday trying to keep up with a late-model 215bhp M3, those things are seriously quick. Now I can't really comment on the Toyota as haven't seen one yet, but I wonder do they really have the raw focus and attitude of an original M3? It's been a few years since I drove an E30 M3, and a few weeks since I drove a GT86, but within the vague haze of what's left of my memory they both seemed fun in the same sort of way. Albeit without the box arches on the GT86. Go test drive a GT86 - it's free. If I had GT86 money I spend some of it buying an E30 M3 and drive round giggling as it's value slowly crept up.
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