RE: Facelifted Audi R8 - details
Discussion
goron59 said:
On the R-Tronic, I'm probably quite unusual in that I'm expressing an opinion after having actually driven one. It's really not that bad once you think of it as a manual without a clutch pedal. Lift the throttle a bit on upshifts and it's nice and smooth. Keep it down and it's harsh.
Word-for-word repeat of what people like me have always said about the previous M5 and M3's SMG box.Still love it. Best car i will probably ever own. Gallardo was going to be next, but family and other commitments meant a change in plans... It is nothing like a comfy saloon to own and live with, and does so much more than most can imagine. In fact it did exactly what I hoped it would. I don't feel so much a pang of regret for changing, more a smack in the face with a wet fish.
I truly do not understand why people criticise the R8 for being "like a comfy saloon" and "dull".
This completely, totally, misses the point.
The R8 is meant to be comfortable. It is meant to be as easy to own and drive as an Audi A4. That is the whole point of it !
If you want a car to pull your trousers down and whip you on the arse as you scream, while inviting bystanders to stop and stare at you as it happens, then you buy a Lamborghini. That is why VAG make the two cars feel so different, even though they share drivetrains.
As an aside, I wonder if the DSG box that Audi have developed will turn up in a new Gallardo replacement?
This completely, totally, misses the point.
The R8 is meant to be comfortable. It is meant to be as easy to own and drive as an Audi A4. That is the whole point of it !
If you want a car to pull your trousers down and whip you on the arse as you scream, while inviting bystanders to stop and stare at you as it happens, then you buy a Lamborghini. That is why VAG make the two cars feel so different, even though they share drivetrains.
As an aside, I wonder if the DSG box that Audi have developed will turn up in a new Gallardo replacement?
toppstuff said:
I truly do not understand why people criticise the R8 for being "like a comfy saloon" and "dull".
This completely, totally, misses the point.
The R8 is meant to be comfortable. It is meant to be as easy to own and drive as an Audi A4. That is the whole point of it !
If you want a car to pull your trousers down and whip you on the arse as you scream, while inviting bystanders to stop and stare at you as it happens, then you buy a Lamborghini. That is why VAG make the two cars feel so different, even though they share drivetrains.
As an aside, I wonder if the DSG box that Audi have developed will turn up in a new Gallardo replacement?
Remove the sound deadening, make the gearbox crunch randomly in third gear, ruin the suspension, give it awfully weighty steering, a heavy clutch and comically jumpy throttle control. Oh, and make it look jarring from some angles with a ridiculous interior.This completely, totally, misses the point.
The R8 is meant to be comfortable. It is meant to be as easy to own and drive as an Audi A4. That is the whole point of it !
If you want a car to pull your trousers down and whip you on the arse as you scream, while inviting bystanders to stop and stare at you as it happens, then you buy a Lamborghini. That is why VAG make the two cars feel so different, even though they share drivetrains.
As an aside, I wonder if the DSG box that Audi have developed will turn up in a new Gallardo replacement?
There, we've turned it into a 'proper super car', one most PHers commenting here would probably lust after.
Message to Dan Trent...
I take issue with the "clunky" description of the R tronic. It isn't clunky, really, if you learn to use it properly.
Just because folklore says it is so, doesn't make it true. And repeating it is just lazy writing.
Interesting that many regard DSG as too smooth. Audi are damned if they change it, damned it they don't.
Thanks
TS
I take issue with the "clunky" description of the R tronic. It isn't clunky, really, if you learn to use it properly.
Just because folklore says it is so, doesn't make it true. And repeating it is just lazy writing.
Interesting that many regard DSG as too smooth. Audi are damned if they change it, damned it they don't.
Thanks
TS
V8KSN said:
Sexual Chocolate said:
Does absolutely nothing for me. I mean I get that they can be used very easily as a daily drive but they just drive and look boring. Same as all audi's. Give me a proper sports car anyday.
Quick question - Have you driven one?
What do you think makes a 'proper' sports car?
Hellbound said:
toppstuff said:
I truly do not understand why people criticise the R8 for being "like a comfy saloon" and "dull".
This completely, totally, misses the point.
The R8 is meant to be comfortable. It is meant to be as easy to own and drive as an Audi A4. That is the whole point of it !
If you want a car to pull your trousers down and whip you on the arse as you scream, while inviting bystanders to stop and stare at you as it happens, then you buy a Lamborghini. That is why VAG make the two cars feel so different, even though they share drivetrains.
As an aside, I wonder if the DSG box that Audi have developed will turn up in a new Gallardo replacement?
Remove the sound deadening, make the gearbox crunch randomly in third gear, ruin the suspension, give it awfully weighty steering, a heavy clutch and comically jumpy throttle control. Oh, and make it look jarring from some angles with a ridiculous interior.This completely, totally, misses the point.
The R8 is meant to be comfortable. It is meant to be as easy to own and drive as an Audi A4. That is the whole point of it !
If you want a car to pull your trousers down and whip you on the arse as you scream, while inviting bystanders to stop and stare at you as it happens, then you buy a Lamborghini. That is why VAG make the two cars feel so different, even though they share drivetrains.
As an aside, I wonder if the DSG box that Audi have developed will turn up in a new Gallardo replacement?
There, we've turned it into a 'proper super car', one most PHers commenting here would probably lust after.
Right on the money there.....I like the Spyder but is it just me or does the V8 sound better?
I also like the fact that if I was an owner I could just pop into my local Audi dealer for "issues".
I'd drive one. DCT for me.
I really want to like the R8, but somehow struggle, without a clear and significant reason - The only major thing I can think is that this car is starting to date quite badly and the facelift is minimal, a real missed oppourtunity.
Shapewise it's little TT brother suffered a similar fate (both new and old models), Audi seem to have a history of hanging on to a design too long.
Shapewise it's little TT brother suffered a similar fate (both new and old models), Audi seem to have a history of hanging on to a design too long.
kambites said:
I'm never quite happy classifying things like the R8 as "sports cars". Putting it in the same category as something like the MX5 seems a bit unfair.
It's more supercar than sportscar, to me.
Careful will be trying to quantify what the difference is between sports and super cars next and lines will be drawn in the sand which is ever shifting.... It's more supercar than sportscar, to me.
Hellbound said:
Remove the sound deadening, make the gearbox crunch randomly in third gear, ruin the suspension, give it awfully weighty steering, a heavy clutch and comically jumpy throttle control. Oh, and make it look jarring from some angles with a ridiculous interior.
There, we've turned it into a 'proper super car', one most PHers commenting here would probably lust after.
where do i sign? There, we've turned it into a 'proper super car', one most PHers commenting here would probably lust after.
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