RE: You Know You Want To: Lotus Elise S1

RE: You Know You Want To: Lotus Elise S1

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PaulM12

99 posts

157 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Hmm, retains it's MMC brakes does it...

They look suspiciously like steel drilled/grooved replacements to me...

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Mark Benson said:
I had a purple S1 Sport 190 and a S2 Exige n/a, even as a weekend car the S2 was the easier of the cars to live with.

On song, the VHPD engine was spine tingling and the way the car chucked itself down the road was exhilarating, but the worry of when (not if) something would go wrong just made anything other than a quick drive out nerve wracking.
Sadly the VHPD engine actually had no Rover involvement, hence they amount of issues associated with it. A regular 1.8 or 1.8 VVC should be reliable, even more so if you make a few simple mods to solve the problem areas. I mean there must be 10,000's out there doing high mileages every single day. The K-Series went into production in the 80's originally and I don't know how many Rover built, but I suspect the vast majority never have had issues.

num2uk

148 posts

228 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Was thinking last night how I wish I could go for a blast in my old one. Sold it as I have a very long car list to get through and wanted to try something different. I had the car for 4 years, the longest I've kept a car for and I do question that decision sometimes.

Mine had S2 suspension and a Larini exhaust. On a summers night with the roof down on the right road it was the perfect car.

IMO the standard S1 has enough power to be entertaining, has "flow" by the bucket load and can still do 30MPG when enjoying the car.

Of course they're not without their issues but when the weather and the roads are right, it's pure bliss.

otolith

56,134 posts

204 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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kambites said:
Personally, I wouldn't use an S1 as a daily, although plenty of people do.

My S2 has been fine as a daily though. It's not really much less practical than something like an MX5.
I'd agree with that, though it depends on what you are going to use it for. The only things which would bother me would be noise at high speed and susceptibility to expensive damage from on-street parking.

PaulM12

99 posts

157 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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CraigMST said:
Are they really that good?
Are they good dailys or are they more suited to having a work car and the Elise being a drive out/ toy/ track car?
They are a great car. Had 3 S1's over the past few years, 2 of which I used as daily drives. If you can cope with the 'rawness' and lack of creature comforts (which for me is part of the attraction), then you'll love it. What isn't so fun is the fact that most S1's leak, even after window adjustment etc etc. I had an S2 as a daily, never leaked a drop. Much improved roof configuration, but a very different car to drive. I will have another S1 at some point!

Jaykaybi

3,494 posts

221 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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113,000 miles in mine so far. I'll never sell it, and the fact I also see 45mpg out of every tank just makes me laugh these days.

danielhodgkiss

60 posts

207 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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I have an Azure blue S1, which I bought for £6k a couple of years ago. I only use it for track days and Sundays. My wife hates it and there's no way I'd EVER use it as a daily drive.

It's incredibly noisy at speed and when slow it sounds like it's going to fall apart. There's a 1cm gap between the windows and the roof so when it rains you may as well drive roofless.

That said it's still worth at least £6k after 2 years of the most motoring fun I have ever had. I honestly can't think of another car you can constantly drive like you nicked it and remain relatively carefree about cost of ownership, as most of things that go wrong (unless you crash it) are made by Rover so are cheep cheep cheep!

crafty1

1,514 posts

249 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Yep agree with Chris completely, bog standard is the way to go except remove the front number plate and its mount and use a smaller stick on plate on the front - I had one of the very first S1's (silver with red leather) in 1996 chassis no.79 i think will never forget how excited I was coming from an Opel manta to brand new Elise, definitely one I should have kept, personally think they are great value now and probably only have one way to go. The MMC brakes were quite scary in the wet though, on a wet motorway one would eventually bite before the other pulling the car to one side, but otherwise all great memories.

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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CraigMST said:
Are they really that good?
Yes. And then some.

CraigMST said:
Are they good dailys
No, no not really.

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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I must admit I don't really see the appeal of keeping the Konis on an S1. They just, well, aren't very good.

willld

238 posts

260 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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kambites said:
Purple is lovely, but oddly rare.

I gave up on trying to find a purple S2 and bought a green one instead.
Aubergine if you don't mind wink

kambites

67,574 posts

221 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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willld said:
kambites said:
Purple is lovely, but oddly rare.

I gave up on trying to find a purple S2 and bought a green one instead.
Aubergine if you don't mind wink
That's the one. smile

Jasandjules

69,895 posts

229 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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I had a purple S1, sold it to get another Chimaera. They are a good car but I just couldn't get comfy enough for long journeys so she became relegated to just the odd blatt down the lanes.

num2uk

148 posts

228 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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otolith said:
I'd agree with that, though it depends on what you are going to use it for. The only things which would bother me would be noise at high speed and susceptibility to expensive damage from on-street parking.
I think if you were going to use one as a daily an S2 would be better, however it would also depend what mods have been done to the car.

A lot of them have had induction kits and exhausts added, which are great when going for a spirited drive but suddenly become very irritating when on the motorway.


CraigMST

9,079 posts

165 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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Thanks for the replies.
When the misses passes her test then she will be buying a car to transport the dog around in and I am definitely adding an Elise to my wishlist biggrin

otolith

56,134 posts

204 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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num2uk said:
I think if you were going to use one as a daily an S2 would be better, however it would also depend what mods have been done to the car.

A lot of them have had induction kits and exhausts added, which are great when going for a spirited drive but suddenly become very irritating when on the motorway.
Yes - though even then it depends. Mine has a 2bular exhaust and a TRD airbox, but they only really make much difference when you put your foot down. Even before that, however, it was still noisy at motorway speeds.

PaulM12

99 posts

157 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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otolith said:
Yes - though even then it depends. Mine has a 2bular exhaust and a TRD airbox, but they only really make much difference when you put your foot down. Even before that, however, it was still noisy at motorway speeds.
I think it's mainly to do with the gear ratio's, especially with the CR box. Means the revs are relatively high in comparison to some cars. Almost feels like there should be another gear on the 5 speed 'K' engined cars.

The Pits

4,289 posts

240 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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S1 is the stuff of automotive legend.

Nothing agains the k-series, I still have on in my 7, it was the vague gearbox that always put me off rover Elises.

I think the toyota powered cars offer a much wider range of uses and are ultimately more fun with the now unfashionable v-tec like kick of the 2ZZRGE engine adding real thrills to the fabulous recipe.

Took mine 3000 miles in less than a week to follow the mille miglia. It would have been hard work in an S1 but I don't think I was missing anything when it came to the alpine passes. S2's are still, amazingly, very under-rated.

otolith

56,134 posts

204 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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I think most of the problem on the motorway (in a standard car) is tyre and wind noise.

drgoatboy

1,625 posts

207 months

Friday 27th July 2012
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I loved the S1 elise when it was first released.
I was so disapointed when I was old enough and rich enough to buy one and found I couldn't fit in. Lucikly a few years later I realised I could fit in a VX220!

However I really fell out of love with the S1, I'm not sure why but all of a sudden it just looked really dated and rather ugly to my eyes....

Must admit I am begining to like the look of them again, the shape is looking more classic now and less old fashioned (if that makes sense?)