RE: Spotted: Range Rover three-door

RE: Spotted: Range Rover three-door

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Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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chickensoup said:
There are three to get, a tax exempt one (you will never get fully original, as seats dont exist), an In Vogue (if you can live with metallic silver blue) or a CSK.
All will rot, as only a land rover knows how, and all will need the engine replacing with a diesel (unless you want something to polish and waxoil)
Have a 1971 with a 300tdi in it, and it is so much better than a defender (a sadist designed that seating position)
Evoque is actually very similar in terms of size
Why diesel? I'd just LPG the V8.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I WISH said:
I'm not sure that "corners" is what early RRs do. In the couple I drove it was more a case of "steer a mean course" and hope you don't hit anything.

And 135 bhp ..... is that the most modest output from any V8? (stands back and waits for the deluge of suggestions)

sperm
They corner just fine.

137hp isn't bad for the era. Remember the RR was about low end torque, not outright pace. Also the then current 2.25 4 cylinder engine in the Land Rover Series only made 72hp, so quite a huge difference in performance.

DonkeyApple

55,391 posts

170 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I WISH said:
suffolk009 said:
I've been trying to persuade my lovely wife that we need one for years now. She's not budging, especially now the prices are rocketing.

Two stand out features - the yard of carpet on the gear lever, and that unmistakeable shimmy they do going round corners. Nothing else corners the same way.
I'm not sure that "corners" is what early RRs do. In the couple I drove it was more a case of "steer a mean course" and hope you don't hit anything.

And 135 bhp ..... is that the most modest output from any V8? (stands back and waits for the deluge of suggestions)

sperm
They corner spectacularly well but it's the way in which they do it that scare the bejesus out of anyone not expecting it. CSK designed them specifically to have good centre of gravity and even though the body rolls startlingly you are not actually leaning the car per se, just the body. The weight remains central.

As such you can really sling them into corners but you have to accept that you will feel that you are going to fall over when you aren't.

I have some big corner speeds out of these cars over the years.

Of course, the 135 bhp is pony but there is nothing to stop you fitting a 400+ conversion and uprated drivetrain and suspension to create an extremely fast road car biggrin

infradig

978 posts

208 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
I WISH said:
I'm not sure that "corners" is what early RRs do. In the couple I drove it was more a case of "steer a mean course" and hope you don't hit anything.

And 135 bhp ..... is that the most modest output from any V8? (stands back and waits for the deluge of suggestions)

sperm
They corner just fine.

137hp isn't bad for the era. Remember the RR was about low end torque, not outright pace. Also the then current 2.25 4 cylinder engine in the Land Rover Series only made 72hp, so quite a huge difference in performance.
MGB V8's were in the same state of tune and they managed to detune it even further for the Series lll Stage 1, under 100 bhp,I think.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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infradig said:
MGB V8's were in the same state of tune and they managed to detune it even further for the Series lll Stage 1, under 100 bhp,I think.
Yep. I think with the MGB it was due to the gearbox. And a similar story with the Stage 1, the gearbox and axles (and drum brakes) really weren't up to handling more than 90hp as a factory vehicle.

JNR77

279 posts

239 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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The Classics are starting to have a cult following amongst certain circles; Namley Slone Rangers in the wealthy parts of London who dont mind spending big money on the very best examples of the Range Rover Classic. I should know as i have recently sold my immaculate low mileage Softdash RRC for similar money that would buy a nice Full Fat TDV8 to a chap in central London.


Craikeybaby

10,416 posts

226 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I learnt to drive (off road) in one of these, a white one, loved the V8 rumble. My Dad sold it on for next to nothing.

Trusty Steed

292 posts

195 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Yann1882 said:
A mate of mine had one these a few years ago it was a rubbish off road we used to go tracking with it n I'd have to pull it out with a Pajero every five mins.
I think its more than likely the tyres than the vehicle!! these are very capable vehicles...Or he didnt know how to drive it!

Yann1882

12 posts

158 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Trusty Steed said:
Yann1882 said:
A mate of mine had one these a few years ago it was a rubbish off road we used to go tracking with it n I'd have to pull it out with a Pajero every five mins.
I think its more than likely the tyres than the vehicle!! these are very capable vehicles...Or he didnt know how to drive it!
Must have been the tyres because he was pretty handy at driving.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Yann1882 said:
Trusty Steed said:
Yann1882 said:
A mate of mine had one these a few years ago it was a rubbish off road we used to go tracking with it n I'd have to pull it out with a Pajero every five mins.
I think its more than likely the tyres than the vehicle!! these are very capable vehicles...Or he didnt know how to drive it!
Must have been the tyres because he was pretty handy at driving.
Reckon it might have been more than tyres. Either it was broken or they really couldn't drive. A classic RR uses a pretty similar drive setup and suspension to a Defender and is just as capable, bar slightly longer over hangs and a slightly worse breakover angle. But very very capable off road.

Yann1882

12 posts

158 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Yann1882 said:
Trusty Steed said:
Yann1882 said:
A mate of mine had one these a few years ago it was a rubbish off road we used to go tracking with it n I'd have to pull it out with a Pajero every five mins.
I think its more than likely the tyres than the vehicle!! these are very capable vehicles...Or he didnt know how to drive it!
Must have been the tyres because he was pretty handy at driving.
Reckon it might have been more than tyres. Either it was broken or they really couldn't drive. A classic RR uses a pretty similar drive setup and suspension to a Defender and is just as capable, bar slightly longer over hangs and a slightly worse breakover angle. But very very capable off road.
I'd take the Pajero over it any day. Wouldn't say no to new Range Rover though

Trommel

19,133 posts

260 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Yann1882 said:
I'd take the Pajero over it any day
I have no idea why.

Yann1882

12 posts

158 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Trommel said:
Yann1882 said:
I'd take the Pajero over it any day
I have no idea why.
It was a lot nicer to drive n it didn't get stuck ever 5 mins n make me look a plum

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Yann1882 said:
Trommel said:
Yann1882 said:
I'd take the Pajero over it any day
I have no idea why.
It was a lot nicer to drive n it didn't get stuck ever 5 mins n make me look a plum
Sounds more like you are making it up tbh. The Pajero is an ok vehicle. But a classic RR is very very good. Much better on road and superior suspension off road. Seriously something was borked or you mate didn't know a transfer box from a window winder.

Yann1882

12 posts

158 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
Yann1882 said:
Trommel said:
Yann1882 said:
I'd take the Pajero over it any day
I have no idea why.
It was a lot nicer to drive n it didn't get stuck ever 5 mins n make me look a plum
Sounds more like you are making it up tbh. The Pajero is an ok vehicle. But a classic RR is very very good. Much better on road and superior suspension off road. Seriously something was borked or you mate didn't know a transfer box from a window winder.
Course I'd make it up. Behave!!!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Yann1882 said:
Course I'd make it up. Behave!!!
On a serious note they should be very. The handle quite well, are fairly nippy, especially for the day. Personally I've seen an indicated 125mph out of a 3.9 auto RR as well as done some other rather silly thing with them.

I'm also quite big into trialling Land Rover's, so have seen (and used a Disco, which is an RR with a different body) them do quite a lot off road.






chickensoup

469 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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^^^^^^
Nice 1972 (tax exempt) 4 door lol

DonkeyApple

55,391 posts

170 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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chickensoup said:
There are three to get, a tax exempt one (you will never get fully original, as seats dont exist), an In Vogue (if you can live with metallic silver blue) or a CSK.
All will rot, as only a land rover knows how, and all will need the engine replacing with a diesel (unless you want something to polish and waxoil)
Have a 1971 with a 300tdi in it, and it is so much better than a defender (a sadist designed that seating position)
Evoque is actually very similar in terms of size
I've a nice, full set of original seats in Palamino. wink. Plus sets of Wingards and a few other items.

Chassis and frame can be galvanised to prevent the usual rot.

An LS3 fits just as snugly as the RV8.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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chickensoup said:
^^^^^^
Nice 1972 (tax exempt) 4 door lol
That's a CCV motor so doesn't need to be road legal, registered or taxed.

I don't know if it's on the road or not, although there is nothing illegal about putting an older plate on a vehicle and you could even re-body a Range Rover with relative ease and still keep the vehicles ID wink

JBT

118 posts

147 months

Wednesday 1st August 2012
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A '71 K plate red 3 door RR is sometimes parked outside my place. It needs a bit of TLC but its nice to see one still on the road in any condition.