Re: 918 Spyder shows off Martini livery

[993RSGT3]

the 918 is going to be a lot slower than the 956/962. Porsche are targeting a Ring time of c7.18 to be quicker than the Carrera GT/GT2RS. To put this in context, Bellof did a 6.11 in qualifying in a 956 in 1983. That's the difference between a race car with huge amounts of downforce and a road car.

[GTRene]

you can also go for this...
a carbon Cayman with up to 800hp and lightweight.

said:

Thankfully, a German company, Alpha-N performance is here to sort that out, by launching their new Alpha-One, a car based on the Cayman, but with much more power. From a styling standpoint, its Porsche roots are clear, but with more rear overhang and different design, we say it has a look of its own which suits it quite well - it also seems to have a bit of 918 Spyder added into the mix, but since it is a Porsche, we don’t really mind, as it looks OK.

also>>

http://paultan.org/2012/08/01/porsche-cayman-by-al...

their website>>

http://www.alpha-n.de/alphaone.php

Edited by GTRene on Wednesday 1st August 22:32

[Rat_Fink_67]

993RSGT3 said:

the 918 is going to be a lot slower than the 956/962. Porsche are targeting a Ring time of c7.18 to be quicker than the Carrera GT/GT2RS. To put this in context, Bellof did a 6.11 in qualifying in a 956 in 1983. That's the difference between a race car with huge amounts of downforce and a road car.

They don't make 'em like they used to *dribble* Bellof's 'ring time, maybe a record never to be broken??

[dinkel]

GTRene said:

Hints of Ferrari in there.

Bellof was an even greater talent than Senna . . . or maybe braver, more reckless.

The 956 car he broke the 'Ringrecord in: epic. He also lost his life in one of these.

[big_rob_sydney]

Devil2575 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

Wonderfully executed engineers wet dream.

But the whole MPG is a distraction, due to ridiculous criteria that will 99.99% not be met in real life. Whats the point.

So putting aside the desire to chase artificial, and almost universally irrelevant bureaucratic milestones, I dont really see what this car offers in performance terms above, say, a GTR, besides an astronomical price tag. In fact, I could go further, and suggest that the use of heavy batteries actually decreases the purity of its design purpose.

Don't be silly.

Surely the whole design purpose is to produce a supercar that doesn't have a thirst like Oliver Reed on a bender.

Before dismissing the economy goals why not wait to see what they actually achieve.

Yes, well. When I think "supercar", funnily enough, I think high performance. Also funnily enough, fuel economy isnt exactly the first thing that springs to mind either...

And while we're on the subject, Toyota, which is one of the worlds automotive powerhouses, cant get a hybrid to go much further than the end of my driveway, albeit that its efforts focus on lower-cost (than the 918) cars, but still amortizing huge R&D across a very large pool of vehicles.


So in summary

1. Yes, I am sceptical about hybrids. Did you see TG recently, with JC driving the Leaf? What a disaster. Shall we even discuss the Tesla debacle?

2. And no, I dont expect a supercar to munch miles.

Silly?

[BarbaricAvatar]

GTRene said:

[993RSGT3]

big_rob_sydney said:

Devil2575 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

Wonderfully executed engineers wet dream.

But the whole MPG is a distraction, due to ridiculous criteria that will 99.99% not be met in real life. Whats the point.

So putting aside the desire to chase artificial, and almost universally irrelevant bureaucratic milestones, I dont really see what this car offers in performance terms above, say, a GTR, besides an astronomical price tag. In fact, I could go further, and suggest that the use of heavy batteries actually decreases the purity of its design purpose.

Don't be silly.

Surely the whole design purpose is to produce a supercar that doesn't have a thirst like Oliver Reed on a bender.

Before dismissing the economy goals why not wait to see what they actually achieve.

Yes, well. When I think "supercar", funnily enough, I think high performance. Also funnily enough, fuel economy isnt exactly the first thing that springs to mind either...

And while we're on the subject, Toyota, which is one of the worlds automotive powerhouses, cant get a hybrid to go much further than the end of my driveway, albeit that its efforts focus on lower-cost (than the 918) cars, but still amortizing huge R&D across a very large pool of vehicles.


So in summary

1. Yes, I am sceptical about hybrids. Did you see TG recently, with JC driving the Leaf? What a disaster. Shall we even discuss the Tesla debacle?

2. And no, I dont expect a supercar to munch miles.

Silly?

Sorry, but neither the Leaf nor the Tesla are hybrids, they are both pure electric power. Hybrids have a future - one won LM this year FFS! The point of the 918 is to push boundaries and ensure that the technology gets better. We should be thankful that companies like Porsche, and the lucky people (all 918 of them) that are getting a 918 are prepared to develop/produce/buy a car like this.