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CBR JGWRR

5,079 posts

18 months

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This is epic!! 700 bhp atom, what more could you want!

How much though?

RenesisEvo

1,837 posts

88 months

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Bonkers.

Can't help but wonder what the power curve looks like (a cliff or a plateau?), or the torque for that matter (peak figure not mentioned anywhere). Quoting a single peak figure to make a headline - it just doesn't tell the full story.

GreigM

4,143 posts

118 months

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CBR JGWRR said:
This is epic!! 700 bhp atom, what more could you want!
downforce?

MrWhippy

67 posts

19 months

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SturdyHSV said:
No, honestly, there really is more to women than just the sweater puppies hehe
Que??

P-Jay

3,648 posts

60 months

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AtomPilot said:
P-Jay said:
Speaking of range... sorry to be a boring old sod, but what will a 700bhp 2.0 twinblown engine do on a track, 5-10MPG?
I was at Oulton two weeks ago in my Atom 3 300 and i worked out i got 8.4mpg over the day so this will struggle to get 5 i would imagine.

Darren
So, for the sake of being a grumpy bugger call it 4mpg. 8.5gal tank (39 litres) so a 34 mile range. What's that 2.5 laps of the ring - yep, the driver will be dead long before it runs out of fuel, the range is sound biggrin

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soad

15,943 posts

45 months

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Mini1275 said:
Absolutely crazy.
yes Mental, more like! biggrin

ZX10Ben

37 posts

10 months

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What a fantastically crazy little car! I love things like this, the power to weight ratio is absolutely bonkers for a road legal car! However, if lap times are more your thing rather than strait line performance, I wouldn't be at all surprised if a lesser powered Atom (245/300) would be faster round a track due to traction and drivability characteristics. Unless this is running some traction control (in which case doesn't that defeat the point in having more power?) I'd say that it would want to light up those rear tyres if you were to merely just show the go pedal the sole of your shoe, let alone actually depress it smile

I read an article when the Nissan GT-R was first released (I think on here?) and owners were looking for power upgrades; one of Nissans test drivers said something along the lines of "If you want to go faster, learn how to drive better" wink

Taking nothing away from the creators of this car though... Litre bike speed on 4 wheels, what's not to like?!

scoobyrubes

12 posts

11 months

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Could you survive a week with this sort of power. How to die with your head being pulled of your shoulders with your helmet on. Your final thoughts would be a fire ball on the horizon.

BILL PAYER

456 posts

48 months

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So has any serious thought been given to how this will maintain traction and handle ?

CraigyMc

5,068 posts

105 months

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vescaegg said:
Chrisw666 said:
What's the power output and weight of the current F1 cars?
Compared to this Atom (assuming circa 600kg - not as quoted) - A bit more, about the same yikes
Current F1 cars have about 740-750bhp from the engine (depends on temp and altitude etc), but also another 80bhp for 6.6s.

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threespires

961 posts

80 months

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700 bhp from a 2.0 litre ?
What was it Victor Meldrew used to say.......................

scubadude

959 posts

66 months

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threespires said:
700 bhp from a 2.0 litre ?
What was it Victor Meldrew used to say.......................
Victor'd be wrong (not for the first time) 700+ from 2ltrs is doable... the important issue is for how long. 80's F1 turbos where what 1300-1500hp from 1.6ltrs

The 34hp 1.6ltr non-turbo diesel in my boat was made in 1960 and runs fine, doubt its had more than 4-5 services over the decades, starts first time everytime, still pushes the boat to the design speed but its masively under stressed. If you only need 34miles @ 700hp (the guesstimated fuel range of this Atom) then it only has to last about half an hour before the block melts :-)


chrisironside

117 posts

31 months

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Sounds great... don't think I'd get one on account of the orange indicators.

CraigyMc

5,068 posts

105 months

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scubadude said:
Victor'd be wrong (not for the first time) 700+ from 2ltrs is doable... the important issue is for how long. 80's F1 turbos where what 1300-1500hp from 1.6ltrs
1350bhp from 1.5 litres, but not running on petrol.

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Snoggledog

6,049 posts

86 months

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Jasandjules said:
Does it come with a G-Suit to be on the safe side?

Surely 700bhp through the wheels will be toooo much (not often I say such things).
Surely a sturdy pair of rubber trousers with ties at the bottom would be more appropriate.

The Jolly Todger

1,170 posts

49 months

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Needs more cowbell.

mylesmcd

1,169 posts

88 months

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scubadude said:
threespires said:
700 bhp from a 2.0 litre ?
What was it Victor Meldrew used to say.......................
Victor'd be wrong (not for the first time) 700+ from 2ltrs is doable... the important issue is for how long. 80's F1 turbos where what 1300-1500hp from 1.6ltrs

The 34hp 1.6ltr non-turbo diesel in my boat was made in 1960 and runs fine, doubt its had more than 4-5 services over the decades, starts first time everytime, still pushes the boat to the design speed but its masively under stressed. If you only need 34miles @ 700hp (the guesstimated fuel range of this Atom) then it only has to last about half an hour before the block melts :-)
IIrc, the 7.0ltr, 4 pot from a R22 helicopter is much the same....reliablity counts there too!

Sods Law

3,241 posts

94 months

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I have been looking at Atoms allot lately and this is just great...... silly


hmmm back to Atom Shopping..... idea

chuntington101

4,046 posts

105 months

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CalibreDan said:
MrWhippy said:
Since when has a GT30 been capable of flowing the air for 700BHP??
GT30's... Never, but they're using a GTX which is rated to 650 if I remember rightly. Some people have done over 700 on them so it's entirely possible. Haven't got a compressor map to hand to see what they flow be it efficient or not but it's totally possible. Would have thought running at the upper limits of efficiency would be the last thing they'd want to do though!
its going to be way out of its efficeny range! Would have thought a GT35r turbo would have been a much better fit.

chuntington101

4,046 posts

105 months

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gofasterrosssco said:
GTRene said:
does that also means that you tune a VX220 or the lotus Europa that way?
those also use a GM Ecotec or is that different...

700hp is mental biggrin
the 450hp setting would save the engine and his/her driver a bit I guess.
The V220 2.2 will have the same basic engine design yes, but I'd guess this is based upon the 'LSJ' 2.0 motor (supercharged) which is popular over in the States. The same basic 2.0L engine is used with a turbo in Vauxhalls and SAABs over here too.

The Europa and the turbo VX220 use a different engine.
The LSJ engines are ally blocks not the iron used in the VRX engines.
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