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Genelec

525 posts

16 months

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Ya know what, I kinda like it! Sure it does absolutely nothing but it looks better than most ready made body kits. It seems like he's not kidding anyone about performance and doesn't really care!

Certainly better than this.


JoPo1

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168 posts

26 months

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jeebus said:
Still nothing better to do ? May I suggest spelling lessons.
Have you got nothing better to do? Im passing time on a Sunday, Is that OK? Dry your eyes little man.

Ahhhh the good old spelling lesson put down. Im sorry i'm not the genius you are or maybe they are typo's?


Cock.


Edited for spelling so your little brain doesnt explode.

jeebus

314 posts

53 months

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Resorting to insults now, quite the troll I see.

JoPo1

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168 posts

26 months

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LOL You asked me if I had anything better to do and i'm the troll? Hmmm...right..OK.



rolleyes

TheEnd

12,075 posts

57 months

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He should put a number "1" on the door, race cars with "1" tend to be the fastest.
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veevee

869 posts

20 months

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Making a track car, swaps manual mirrors for electric ones?

rolleyes

djgritt

7 posts

33 months

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'Elite' Pistonheads forum members at their finest in here as usual...

billybob69

672 posts

14 months

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the clio 197 has a fake diffuser.

rhe bmw m3 has a fake air bonnet outtake.

loads of have fake/useless air intakes that do nothing.

To me it is a none story.

Gaz.

47,128 posts

120 months

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JoPo1 said:
LOL You asked me if I had anything better to do and i'm the troll? Hmmm...right..OK.



rolleyes
Well the insults normally means the bag of tricks is empty doesn't it.

BBS-LM

3,484 posts

93 months

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This guy has done allot of good work on his car, I like it, the Graphics are a little overkill, and the rear defuser hopeful, but apart from that it's a good effort.

SJW2511

28 posts

9 months

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veevee said:
Making a track car, swaps manual mirrors for electric ones?

rolleyes
Yep they aren't fitted to be electric its simply because the electric mech holds the mirrors securely the manual ones go floppy if you cut the adjuster cables

SJW2511

28 posts

9 months

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Ps. Thanks for making this go viral hopefully will lead to sponsorship for race team in my race car

Adam Kindness

516 posts

86 months

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its a better DIY effort than my DIY effort on a car that really is used for racing wink

It really is laughable that you are taking the piss out of the car and Steve for doing these changes. Do you expect him to nip off out to the wind-tunnel he has in the shed to verify data before and after? He drove the car as standard.... if its wildly different now I guess he'll know where to look. A front splitter like that wont make any problems as far as I can see (and to say it could be a little deeper is like saying your wifes tits could just be a little bigger.... in an ideal world I'm sure it could!!). The rear diffuser (when finished) should help smooth out air flow at least - yes, it is NOT a flat floor / tunnel.... but its going to be better. The exhaust was there before too... so not moving it hasnt made that aspect any worse!!!

I dont really agree that the 120bhp Puma needs all that bits n bobs but I must say its pretty decent work LOL

stE fixings though biggrin

s3fella

6,470 posts

56 months

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Fair play for having a go, but you'd have a faster car by just shedding weight from everywhere in the car, all this stuff you are adding is going the opposite way. Unless you have some serious serious power, your aero affects if any will be countered by the additional weight.
If it were me, I'd be junking everything heavy, including the cage and ripping out anything you don't need. Look at the glass weight next and consider some plastic.

Its all good fun what y our doing, but once you are done, put it up against another puma that has just been stripped down to bear bones, and it will be noticeably faster on circuit.
To see what I mean, have a look at some lap times from the 90s on hot hatch race cars etc. fiestas. 205 gti s etc, all typing the scales at about 700 kg max with 130 to 150 hp. My fiesta track car with 109 hp at the wheels would do Castle Combe 0.25 s quicker than my 350 hp big turbo Audi s3, and would do it for 20 to 30 laps, whereas the audi would have its brakes cooked within 8 laps.
Why....well Audi is 1350 kg, fiesta was 670! It's not just power to weight, it is getting it slowed and getting it through the turns. Less weight means smaller brakes, wheels, tyres, required and all th mech components get an easier time.


So by all means carry on, but try junking it all and shedding 100kg and see how fast you go then!

MrBrightSi

1,022 posts

39 months

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I have to admit, it looks pleasing to the eye even if it is a bit of a folly. However, the guys attitude is piss poor, i would hate to have to talk to him on a track day or similar, could imagine him to be one incredible bore and an incredible bellend.

SJW2511

28 posts

9 months

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Iv lost 200kgs from standard weight already, the brakes are lighter than standard too even though they are 6 pots as they are billet alu, windows are plastic, the fact you can't tell pleases me, cage is the major weight adder but I'd rather put my personal safety first

SJW2511

28 posts

9 months

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Boring is not really something iv been called before haha

Adam Kindness

516 posts

86 months

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read the thread.

its stripped, with perspec windows etc.

Telling him to remove the cage from a track car is a bit stupid.... fking retarded infact.

In principle I agree though. Not having the weight of the splitter/diffuser would prob make it quicker than having them.

Who knows, they may infact add a bit of high speed stabilty.

On one of our cars I've had to change the rear wing (from big GT wing to small OE spoiler) and then lost the splitter during a race. They made noticable differences at medium speed corners.

This puma can go round corners at potentially the same speed as a 'race' car... fitting this aero is normally to improve cornering which isnt really dependant on power. The drag may make the Puma slower on approach but if the corner speed is up then result LOL

Rickyy

3,317 posts

88 months

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I wonder how the engine swap has affected the handling? The 1.7 engine is quite a light unit compared to the duratec lump isn't it? Seems to have rear discs aswell. Bit of a non-story IMO, the guy isn't harming anyone.

s3fella

6,470 posts

56 months

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SJW2511 said:
Iv lost 200kgs from standard weight already, the brakes are lighter than standard too even though they are 6 pots as they are billet alu, windows are plastic, the fact you can't tell pleases me, cage is the major weight adder but I'd rather put my personal safety first
But you don't need 6 pot brakes on a car that should be 700 kg with 150 hp.
Lighter or not than stock, you can get away with smaller, less rotational mass, less unplug weight etc.

You're trying to follow the tuning from a play station game!

Lose the wood and all the crap. Get rid of that silly back box, go side exit with light baffled pipe. Consider smaller brAkes and wheels, you don't need what you have.

. Lose 100kg from what you have and it will go like stnk.
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