RE: Jaguar F-Type confirmed for Paris
Discussion
Let's be honest;
We all really wish for a spiritual successor to the E type, but that's like wishing for the spiritual successor for the original Golf GTi.
Crash legislation, emissions equipment and levels of equipment make that as likely as me waking up to Jessica Ennis....
I'll keep an open mind and hope its as good as we hope. Er, I'd that makes sense. I hope.
We all really wish for a spiritual successor to the E type, but that's like wishing for the spiritual successor for the original Golf GTi.
Crash legislation, emissions equipment and levels of equipment make that as likely as me waking up to Jessica Ennis....
I'll keep an open mind and hope its as good as we hope. Er, I'd that makes sense. I hope.
Imo Jaguar E-Type was a fugly shed, ive never seen the attraction, just ugly, as are nearly all old jags. The current model range is quite nice though.
This new car is absolutely fantastic though, pure and beautiful, its like a futuristic blend of Maserati, Aston and Jaguar and with 500bhp on tap, amazing big wheels, an exhaust note to wake the dead and sure to be a good drive, its one of the best cars ever made!
Ive lost count of how many people ive heard say.. "WOW i never thought id hear myself saying id buy a Jag, but this is beautiful, i hope they make it!"
Hopefully this ragtop is as beautiful as the coupe concept. Roll on Paris!
This new car is absolutely fantastic though, pure and beautiful, its like a futuristic blend of Maserati, Aston and Jaguar and with 500bhp on tap, amazing big wheels, an exhaust note to wake the dead and sure to be a good drive, its one of the best cars ever made!
Ive lost count of how many people ive heard say.. "WOW i never thought id hear myself saying id buy a Jag, but this is beautiful, i hope they make it!"
Hopefully this ragtop is as beautiful as the coupe concept. Roll on Paris!
Is there really a need for two versions with such similar power outputs - would most non-ph people know the difference between 340 & 380bhp? Is the cost of developing two variants with barely more than 10% difference in power cost effective?
Would seem more sensible if having 3 engine variants to have a greater spread, say 275, 380 and 500bhp, thus making the presumably cheaper entry level version fall into more people grasp.
Would seem more sensible if having 3 engine variants to have a greater spread, say 275, 380 and 500bhp, thus making the presumably cheaper entry level version fall into more people grasp.
Markytop said:
Is there really a need for two versions with such similar power outputs - would most non-ph people know the difference between 340 & 380bhp? Is the cost of developing two variants with barely more than 10% difference in power cost effective?
Would seem more sensible if having 3 engine variants to have a greater spread, say 275, 380 and 500bhp, thus making the presumably cheaper entry level version fall into more people grasp.
It does seem odd but maybe it makes sense when viewed from an emissions or tax band situation?Would seem more sensible if having 3 engine variants to have a greater spread, say 275, 380 and 500bhp, thus making the presumably cheaper entry level version fall into more people grasp.
rtz62 said:
Let's be honest;
We all really wish for a spiritual successor to the E type, but that's like wishing for the spiritual successor for the original Golf GTi.
Crash legislation, emissions equipment and levels of equipment make that as likely as me waking up to Jessica Ennis....
I'll keep an open mind and hope its as good as we hope. Er, I'd that makes sense. I hope.
You do realise the E-Type was sold in LWB format, 2+2 seating and with a 3 speed auto box and V12 engine. Pure GT rather than sports car. The XJ-S replaced this ethos perfectly just with different styling.We all really wish for a spiritual successor to the E type, but that's like wishing for the spiritual successor for the original Golf GTi.
Crash legislation, emissions equipment and levels of equipment make that as likely as me waking up to Jessica Ennis....
I'll keep an open mind and hope its as good as we hope. Er, I'd that makes sense. I hope.
The XK8 again stuck with the E-Type ideals and Even harked back to the E-Type with the bonnet bulge and general shape, not to mention the rather deliberate naming of XK8 (being as the E-Type was branded XKE in some markets).
Markytop said:
Is there really a need for two versions with such similar power outputs - would most non-ph people know the difference between 340 & 380bhp? Is the cost of developing two variants with barely more than 10% difference in power cost effective?
Would seem more sensible if having 3 engine variants to have a greater spread, say 275, 380 and 500bhp, thus making the presumably cheaper entry level version fall into more people grasp.
Well the 340bhp version is probably just going to be a detuned version of the 380bhp. BMW do this all the time offering the same engine in different states of tune. I can't imagine a different intake/software would cost them too much? Would seem more sensible if having 3 engine variants to have a greater spread, say 275, 380 and 500bhp, thus making the presumably cheaper entry level version fall into more people grasp.
HorneyMX5 said:
I reckon that's a reasonable job of hashing a render together from the clues avaialable.
If it looks like that it'll be awesome, especially in a nice bright colour.
Nick
pauloroberto said:
Not sure why anyone would by an XK/XKR over this, considering the likely price differential. My guess is the XK/XKR has not got much longer to go.
I've always seen the XK as the opposition to the Merc SL rather than any Porsche.I suspect that this smaller car which does the same job will actually target a completely new and essential market for JLR.
DonkeyApple said:
pauloroberto said:
Not sure why anyone would by an XK/XKR over this, considering the likely price differential. My guess is the XK/XKR has not got much longer to go.
I've always seen the XK as the opposition to the Merc SL rather than any Porsche.I suspect that this smaller car which does the same job will actually target a completely new and essential market for JLR.
Vocal Minority said:
It looks like and XJS and an XJ220 got drunk and the Christmas party, then 9 months later this popped out.
Think more Aston Martin 
The Jaguar XJ41 (coupe) and XJ42 (vert) was a cancelled "F-Type" project. I based on the XJS. It was later revised and given a mild facelift to make it more Aston looking and relaxed to the public as the DB7.
Although looking at the bonnet you can clearly see the XK8 lines. Itself another car based on the XJS.
varsas said:
DonkeyApple said:
pauloroberto said:
Not sure why anyone would by an XK/XKR over this, considering the likely price differential. My guess is the XK/XKR has not got much longer to go.
I've always seen the XK as the opposition to the Merc SL rather than any Porsche.I suspect that this smaller car which does the same job will actually target a completely new and essential market for JLR.
JLR desperately need products to bring in the younger market and also the female market. The Evoque seems to hit the spot on that side of the business and maybe the F Type is the product for the Jaguar arm?
300bhp/ton said:
rtz62 said:
Let's be honest;
We all really wish for a spiritual successor to the E type, but that's like wishing for the spiritual successor for the original Golf GTi.
Crash legislation, emissions equipment and levels of equipment make that as likely as me waking up to Jessica Ennis....
I'll keep an open mind and hope its as good as we hope. Er, I'd that makes sense. I hope.
You do realise the E-Type was sold in LWB format, 2+2 seating and with a 3 speed auto box and V12 engine. Pure GT rather than sports car. The XJ-S replaced this ethos perfectly just with different styling.We all really wish for a spiritual successor to the E type, but that's like wishing for the spiritual successor for the original Golf GTi.
Crash legislation, emissions equipment and levels of equipment make that as likely as me waking up to Jessica Ennis....
I'll keep an open mind and hope its as good as we hope. Er, I'd that makes sense. I hope.
The XK8 again stuck with the E-Type ideals and Even harked back to the E-Type with the bonnet bulge and general shape, not to mention the rather deliberate naming of XK8 (being as the E-Type was branded XKE in some markets).
The E-type could be a sports car depending on how you specced it. If you went for a two-seater with a manual gearbox, or took it to extremes and built a low-drag racing version, it was very much a sports car. However, the rot started to set in when they dropped the straight-six and two-seater coupe options for the Series 3, and from then on it was a GT.
There are Jaguar sports cars that should have been released over the years. Roadgoing versions of the Broadspeed XJC, TWR XJS and the various racing XK8s should have been available with manual 'boxes and tougher steering and suspension, but they were always unforthcoming for some reason.
I see this F-type as having the potential to be the successor to the XKSS, rather than the E-type.
DonkeyApple said:
JLR desperately need products to bring in the younger market and also the female market. The Evoque seems to hit the spot on that side of the business and maybe the F Type is the product for the Jaguar arm?
I've heard the JLR management refer to the F-type as 'Jaguar's Evoque'.
CarsGoVroom said:
No clue at all, however.....you obviously know with the scores of detail you refer to here.
Besides - the point is the weight hasn't been released yet, how do PH know?
Not released, 1600kg was presented previously with concept. I hope it is light. At least lighter than bulky corvette.Besides - the point is the weight hasn't been released yet, how do PH know?
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