Return of the hot rod?

[Ari]

Streetrod said:

A very nice custom



And another kick arse Hotrod



And now for something a little different, this is a Street Machine

Those are totally awesome..!

[DonkeyApple]

S2Mike said:

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I didn't realise it was that recent, thanks for the info.

The wardrobe was from the 80s though.

[300bhp/ton]

S2Mike said:

I remember seeing that is that where he got those injuries, the paralysed side of his face etc?,
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So does this mean we agree well almost ? Eh 300bhp

Edited by S2Mike on Monday 13th August 20:07

I'm good with that

[DonkeyApple]

Gaz. said:

American Hot Rod painted an incredibly bad picture of Boyd, he must have been livid with the final edits.

It certainly painted a picture which was at odds with the text.

But that is the function of a commercial editor. If a show is being created to generate commercial ad revenue then it's essential for the editor to create 'characters' and the easiest one to create is always the 'asshole'. Even down to having scene writers and stage managed scenes.

But, negotiate the correct contract and it'll pay you handsomely.

[King Herald]

Gaz. said:

King Herald said:

Many people saw the series, and instantly assume Boyd Coddington was a dick......

American Hot Rod painted an incredibly bad picture of Boyd, he must have been livid with the final edits.

As was Paul Teutul Senior, when he saw the first broadcast of the American Chopper series, screaming, shouting, childish tantrums et al, until he saw the the viewing figures soaring and the $$$$$$ rolling in.

[Cotty]

King Herald said:

As was Paul Teutul Senior, when he saw the first broadcast of the American Chopper series, screaming, shouting, childish tantrums et al, until he saw the the viewing figures soaring and the $$$$$$ rolling in.

Ok they probably played up to it in later episodes but that original footage had to come from somewhere.

[Athlon]

Have a look at this link : http://auto.howstuffworks.com/doane-spencer-deuce-...

In many peoples mind this is one of the ultimate hot rods.

[300bhp/ton]

Cotty said:

Not based on anything? Looks like a chopped down A rad with a dropped I beam, highboy. Looks like they have tried a modern interpretation if what people think of as a hot rod.

That's sort of my point though. It's completely new, Boyd designed and penned it. It's built fully of custom alumiuim parts (including the axle casing), runs an LS motor and sophisticated electronic gearbox with push button drive selection.

It's anything but old accept in passing shape.

Looks great though..

Cotty said:

How about this. Completly new vehicle, from the ground up.
http://www.factoryfive.com/kits/33-hot-rod/


Its not old but it looks the period

[King Herald]

Cotty said:

Ok they probably played up to it in later episodes but that original footage had to come from somewhere.

Hell yes, he has always been a childish, loud mouthed clown, but he just didn't like the idea of the whole world seeing him perform.

Until the dollars and viewing fingers became apparent.

I read some magazine article about five years ago, interviewed the guy, and he related this tale. Also mentioned that they had grossed over $60 million since the start of the series, in various ways, marketing, tv, bike sales, memorabilia etc.

[Cotty]

300bhp/ton said:

That's sort of my point though. It's completely new

There is an old quote in one of the custom car/hot rod magazines I used to read, it goes something like this "If you have to ask you won't understand"

[HBFS]

Streetrod said:

So here are a few examples, this was my first car which I still own 30 years later, although it looks like a Hotrod, it is actually a Custom/Street Machine because it is based on a 68 Beetle

Got any more pics of this? It looks fantastic and usualy I hate all Beetles!

[300bhp/ton]

Cotty said:

There is an old quote in one of the custom car/hot rod magazines I used to read, it goes something like this "If you have to ask you won't understand"

lol but no.

I'm a memeber NSRA forum too, joined there before joining PH. Just makes me laugh slightly at how many definitions there are, all 100% law, yet every single one just an opinion

I'm quite happy in what is a rod, hot or street or otherwise. Customs, Kustoms and many others. All just great cars usually.

[Cotty]

I still love this old film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QvKS68Zcac&fea...

[Cledus Snow]

300bhp/ton said:

I'm quite happy in what is a rod, hot or street or otherwise. Customs, Kustoms and many others. All just great cars usually.

[Hugo a Gogo]

300bhp/ton said:

lol but no.

I'm a memeber NSRA forum too, joined there before joining PH. Just makes me laugh slightly at how many definitions there are, all 100% law, yet every single one just an opinion

I'm quite happy in what is a rod, hot or street or otherwise. Customs, Kustoms and many others. All just great cars usually.

I never said it was '100% law' - I gave my opinion

rolymo - great stuff - I forgot about the 'hotrods' racing classes, that does muddy the waters I suppose

in the end, I think you can 'hot rod' any car, as a verb, but 'a hot rod' without any other definition to it, will always be a 20s, 30s or 40s open wheeled car, to me

newer cars, you'd have to use the verb and add the model, if you see what I mean "I've got a hot-rodded 55 Chevy, 911, VW, BMW, PT Cruiser, Mini, whatever"

again, my opinion

google image searching 'hot rod' seems to back me up, with 90-odd% of the pics being open-wheel roadsters

[300bhp/ton]

Hugo a Gogo said:

I never said it was '100% law' - I gave my opinion

Sorry, wasn't aimed at you. But it's amazing how feisty some of the rodders get over it.

Hugo a Gogo said:

rolymo - great stuff - I forgot about the 'hotrods' racing classes, that does muddy the waters I suppose

in the end, I think you can 'hot rod' any car, as a verb, but 'a hot rod' without any other definition to it, will always be a 20s, 30s or 40s open wheeled car, to me

newer cars, you'd have to use the verb and add the model, if you see what I mean "I've got a hot-rodded 55 Chevy, 911, VW, BMW, PT Cruiser, Mini, whatever"

again, my opinion

google image searching 'hot rod' seems to back me up, with 90-odd% of the pics being open-wheel roadsters

I guess it's all about perspective too. For instance I'm waaay waaay too young to have been around in the hay day.

But image if you where a young 20 something in the late 1940's and you rodded the car you had, it just happened to be an open wheeler or separate fender design. A few years later you have another car and you rod that - in exactly the same way as before. Only this time round the car didn't have separate fenders.

To that person I'm sure they'd consider both hot rods as they'd have done the exact same thing within a handful of years. But somehow just because someone 60 years later wants to classify them differently it means they aren't the same.

[mrloudly]

As a lad in the eighties there was a guy used to do them just down the road. Always remember he did one called "Lemon Popsicle" looked
lovely! I loved the old transit custom jobs as well. Always dreamt of doing one for pulling the birds, 'Wanna come for a ride in my Transit babe"
never really sure if that'd work LOL

[rpguk]

Some great cars there rolymo

That 'Viva' looks quite special.

[Streetrod]

300bhp/ton said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

I never said it was '100% law' - I gave my opinion

Sorry, wasn't aimed at you. But it's amazing how feisty some of the rodders get over it.

Hugo a Gogo said:

rolymo - great stuff - I forgot about the 'hotrods' racing classes, that does muddy the waters I suppose

in the end, I think you can 'hot rod' any car, as a verb, but 'a hot rod' without any other definition to it, will always be a 20s, 30s or 40s open wheeled car, to me

newer cars, you'd have to use the verb and add the model, if you see what I mean "I've got a hot-rodded 55 Chevy, 911, VW, BMW, PT Cruiser, Mini, whatever"

again, my opinion

google image searching 'hot rod' seems to back me up, with 90-odd% of the pics being open-wheel roadsters

I guess it's all about perspective too. For instance I'm waaay waaay too young to have been around in the hay day.

But image if you where a young 20 something in the late 1940's and you rodded the car you had, it just happened to be an open wheeler or separate fender design. A few years later you have another car and you rod that - in exactly the same way as before. Only this time round the car didn't have separate fenders.

To that person I'm sure they'd consider both hot rods as they'd have done the exact same thing within a handful of years. But somehow just because someone 60 years later wants to classify them differently it means they aren't the same.

300bhp, by your own admission you are way too young it seems to be fully aware of the rich and extremely well documented history of the Hotrod culture with its origins dating back before the Second World War. Your comments above about the two scenarios of two cars built a few years apart illustrate this all too well. The fact is that certain modifications that help define pre 49 Hotrod's cannot be applied to cars of a later design.

That the various governing bodies including the NSRA, SCTA, and NHRA etc have all adopted the pre 49 standard I think is all the clarification you need. And let’s not forget that all these organisations were set up by Hotrodders for Hotrodders as a way of organising themselves.

The pre 49 standard is not not a new thing, it has been universally accepted within the Hotrod world for over 50 years, talk to anyone with the community and I suspect they would say the same thing.

The Hotrod and Custom business is now globally worth multiply billions, and that does not include the ranks of modified modern cars. The biggest car show in the world is a pre 49 Hotrod show so any claims that the hobby is past its sell by date are somewhat unfounded

Edited by Streetrod on Tuesday 14th August 11:00

[300bhp/ton]

Streetrod said:

300bhp, by your own admission you are way too young it seems to be fully aware of the rich and extremely well documented history of the Hotrod culture with its origins dating back before the Second World War. Your comments above about the two scenarios of two cars built a few years apart illustrate this all too well. The fact is that certain modifications that help define pre 49 Hotrod's cannot be applied to cars of a later design.

That the various governing bodies including the NSRA, SCTA, and NHRA etc have all adopted the pre 49 standard I think is all the clarification you need. And let’s not forget that all these organisations were set up by Hotrodders for Hotrodders as a way of organising themselves.

The Hotrod and Custom business is now globally worth multiply billions, and that does not include the ranks of modified modern cars. The biggest car show in the world is a pre 49 Hotrod show so any claims that the hobby is past its sell by date are somewhat unfounded

Who said past its sell by date??

I love rods, a goal (if I ever have the money) is to build a chopped '32 5 window coupe.

It doesn't change the lunacy around what is and isn't called a rod though. And in many cases it really is just people being a little too precious about it, rather than simply enjoying the cars.

I like them all, who really cares about the name?