Return of the hot rod?

[AdeTuono]

300bhp/ton said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

you like all modified cars?

you can call them all whatever you like, for the rest of us, it's easier if we all have words that apply to different things

If I like to refer to all cars as 'sports cars' on the basis that any car could be involved in some sort of sport, that doesn't help us when someone else wants to talk about buying a new sports car

Nah that's not what I'm meaning.

For example if you post a poll up in GG and say "is this a Hot Rod?" with yes/no as the answers.

Do you honestly think most people will say no it's not a hot rod?







Yet it fails the pre '49 reg/law/rule/idea. So therefore can't be one.


Same story with the "aluma-tub" from Coddingtons. It might be in the image and style of an older car, but so is an X358 Jaguar XJ. It doesn't mean it is an old car in any shape, form or construction.

How would you class my '32? It's a Rodline body with a modern V8 & trans, but I can't see anyone calling it anything but a hot-rod. It would certainly be accepted at a hot-rod show/event.

[Streetrod]

Roo said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

yep, the prowler is definitely 'pre 49 style, just as much as something like Coddington's Aluma coupe

if it's standard though, it can't really be a hot rod though, can it?

there have been some rodded versions though, Chip Foose did one

Is he still credited with the original design?

The Prowler, despite its style , is only a modern day production car so in standard form is nothing other than that.

Chip is credited with designing the original concept for the Prowler. In later years he went onto to actually build his original concept the Hemisphere which you can see here as a limited run of cars:

[300bhp/ton]

Cledus Snow said:

Is a 2012 VW beetle a hot rod?

Well it's fits the definition, if only it was rwd

Prowler is quite a different beastie though.

[Hugo a Gogo]

Roo said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

yep, the prowler is definitely 'pre 49 style, just as much as something like Coddington's Aluma coupe

if it's standard though, it can't really be a hot rod though, can it?

there have been some rodded versions though, Chip Foose did one

Is he still credited with the original design?

The Prowler, despite its style , is only a modern day production car so in standard form is nothing other than that.

that's what I said

[300bhp/ton]

AdeTuono said:

How would you class my '32? It's a Rodline body with a modern V8 & trans, but I can't see anyone calling it anything but a hot-rod. It would certainly be accepted at a hot-rod show/event.

That's my point


BTW - I'm not actually voicing just an opinion or how I personally feel about them. I'm just saying... Some people claim very rigid things on what is or isn't a ht rod, but it often turns out to be somewhat hypocritical in how it's applied - that's my only point and NOT my actual personal view.


Great looking set of cars BTW

Edited by 300bhp/ton on Tuesday 14th August 12:41

[dmulally]

A hot rod is a look and smell thing to me.

[Cotty]

Is this a hot rod?

[Roo]

Hugo a Gogo said:

that's what I said

Sorry, I meant to quote part of what you said and part of another post.

[S2Mike]

300bhp/ton said:

S2Mike said:

I remember seeing that is that where he got those injuries, the paralysed side of his face etc?,
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So does this mean we agree well almost ? Eh 300bhp

Edited by S2Mike on Monday 13th August 20:07

I'm good with that

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Thats great, but good to thrash out your ideas with everyone, its the only way to understand.

[Streetrod]

Cotty said:

Is this a hot rod?

That's a good one, yes it could be if it was an pre 49 Beetle other wise official its a street machine or custom

[Cledus Snow]

300bhp/ton said:

Cledus Snow said:

Is a 2012 VW beetle a hot rod?

Well it's fits the definition, if only it was rwd

Prowler is quite a different beastie though.

Does a 'Hot rod' have to be Rear wheel drive? A Pt cruiser isn't and they're hot rods. And the 2.0 Corsa you mentioned earlier in the thread??

Hugo a Gogo said:

Cledus Snow said:

Is a 2012 VW beetle a hot rod?

oof, I'd say you could not make a hot rod out of a 2012 VW - feel free to try

Nah, A on B rails for me. 392 hemi with 3x2s and a 4 speed.

[Cledus Snow]

Streetrod said:

Cotty said:

Is this a hot rod?

That's a good one, yes it could be if it was an pre 49 Beetle other wise official its a street machine or custom

Custom with a 'C' not a 'K' though.

[300bhp/ton]

Cledus Snow said:

Does a 'Hot rod' have to be Rear wheel drive? A Pt cruiser isn't and they're hot rods. And the 2.0 Corsa you mentioned earlier in the thread??

I love how what I say is taken out of context and out of proportion - only on PistonHeads!


I didn't say it had to be RWD, although I think someone else did - hence me making a cheeky comment about it.

Also I never proclaimed the PT as a hot rod, I cited it as a "non samey" modern car design. Latter on I then gave some examples of modified or "hot rodded" ones, but I still didn't call it a hot rod. Maybe it was too subtle, but it was deliberate.

As for the Corsa, no I personally don't consider it a hot rod. However the ethos and idea behind what "hot rodding" is, is 100% bang on is still being done today to cars like the Corsa and many others.

Again maybe I was foolishly being too subtle with my meaning and I did say people wouldn't like it. But it is truth, while a Corsa might not be a hot rod, the modified scene around them is very much the 'hot rodding' ideals, just under a different name.

"Would a rose still smell as sweet by any other name" kind of paradigm.

[aeropilot]

LighthouseTrait said:

My suggestion would be to head to the infamous Ace Cafe. On a Wednesday, mid month they have a hot rod night. I'll post a few photos up later... The carpark fills up and there's plenty more cars on the street too.....with the occasional burn out!

Hot Rod night is on the FIRST Wednesday of the month.


To be honest, it's not as good as it used to be, having gone downhill a bit since the Executioners stopped organising it a few years back.

It's still OK though on the season starting spring meet and season ending autumn meets

Check the Ace website for the date of the end of season autumn meet.

[irocfan]

King Herald said:

300bhp/ton said:

LiamM45 said:

A PT Cruiser is not, and never will be, anything other than the butt of jokes in the Hot Rod world. Awful things.

Why? What is so different about them from all the other mundane and normal cars which are then hot rodded? Answer - sweet FA.

PT Cruisers were built to look like a hot rod, but it is a shame they didn't at least put a V8 in, and rear wheel drive. They aren't a bad looking car, but could have been so much more. I saw one at a show a few years ago that had the full on hot rod drag race rear end treatment, replete with huge tyres and wheelie bars, but it was still front wheel drive.......
Just saying.

Same with the Plymouth Prowler, only came with a V6 motor???? WTF. Big mistake.

I can actually see where 300 is coming from - we all bh about samey samey modern car and yet when one dares to try and look a little different it's severely chastised as being tasteless, crap looks etc. How much of that is disappointment that the performance didn't match the looks is open to debate - though there are some on here who would argue that the performance matches the looks EXACTLY <grin>. Personally I do like it - I'm not as keen on the owners who seem to have covered their car in glue and then just driven through halfrauds, but that is another arguement again.

As to what defines a hot-rod? Who cars TBH - it's a little like the anoraks at an MG meet who'll argue that car A is better than car B because it's got its' screw heads all lined up north/south and hasn't got any carbon in the exhaust pipe. In other words rules intervene, it all gets a little precious and the main purpose (FUN) is lost in bhing

[Streetrod]

Cledus Snow said:

Streetrod said:

Cotty said:

Is this a hot rod?

That's a good one, yes it could be if it was an pre 49 Beetle other wise official its a street machine or custom

Custom with a 'C' not a 'K' though.

With a "C"

[irocfan]

DonkeyApple said:

Gaz. said:

American Hot Rod painted an incredibly bad picture of Boyd, he must have been livid with the final edits.

It certainly painted a picture which was at odds with the text.

But that is the function of a commercial editor. If a show is being created to generate commercial ad revenue then it's essential for the editor to create 'characters' and the easiest one to create is always the 'asshole'. Even down to having scene writers and stage managed scenes.

But, negotiate the correct contract and it'll pay you handsomely.

interestingly though Foose never came across as a total cock, can't see it's hurt his bank balance any?

[Cledus Snow]

300bhp/ton said:

Cledus Snow said:

Does a 'Hot rod' have to be Rear wheel drive? A Pt cruiser isn't and they're hot rods. And the 2.0 Corsa you mentioned earlier in the thread??

I love how what I say is taken out of context and out of proportion - only on PistonHeads!


I didn't say it had to be RWD, although I think someone else did - hence me making a cheeky comment about it.

Also I never proclaimed the PT as a hot rod, I cited it as a "non samey" modern car design. Latter on I then gave some examples of modified or "hot rodded" ones, but I still didn't call it a hot rod. Maybe it was too subtle, but it was deliberate.

As for the Corsa, no I personally don't consider it a hot rod. However the ethos and idea behind what "hot rodding" is, is 100% bang on is still being done today to cars like the Corsa and many others.

Again maybe I was foolishly being too subtle with my meaning and I did say people wouldn't like it. But it is truth, while a Corsa might not be a hot rod, the modified scene around them is very much the 'hot rodding' ideals, just under a different name.

"Would a rose still smell as sweet by any other name" kind of paradigm.

I really don't care anymore.

I've tried several times to write a reply and there is no point, you'll just bash on regardless. ?


You win, You know best. Happy?

[CAPP0]

Just a suggestion, but perhaps if someone were to remove their headgear, and extract the buzzing, honey-making insect found inside, we could all return to the title of the thread?

[S2Mike]

If its Rods you want to see, almost without exception if you visit Shakespeare County Raceway, Drag Race Strip on Long Marston Airfield near Stratford upon Avon, at the next meeting, you will see Rods, Street Machines, Custom Classics, Rat Rods and every other combination imaginable both on the Strip and in the carpark. If unsure about what classification they are, just ask the driver, most will be happy and proud to tell you all about their car.
Next meeting will be on the website. . http://www.shakespearecountyraceway.com/events.asp 25-27 August 2012.