Another what car thread, opinions needed

[Animala]

So I'm going to be getting my next car in February and I've done my research and know the figures, but now would like some first hand experience opinions please

The cars I'm interested in (that are in my budget) are as follows:

2004 Mitsubishi Evo 8 - 265bhp version

2006 Subaru Impreza WRX - 230bhp

2004 Subaru Impreza STi - 265bhp

Any year Nissan 350Z Coupe - any version

And the wildcard - 2000 Porsche 911 - 320bhp

All cars are manual and will be used for commuting 14 miles average every week day. They all do roughly the same MPG. I work at a main dealership and can get servicing and general maintenance done fairly cheap, so I'm really just after love and hate stories on each car that can push me more in the direction of one than the other.

At the moment the one I like the most is the Evo but I'd also love a V6/flat 6 rear wheel drive coupe. Also I put the power of each vehicle down because that's mainly how I tell them apart from all their variations.

[Rob282828]

Mitsubishi GTO?

3.0L V6
4/5/6 Speed Gearboxes
276hp (Twin Turbo)

Are you asking us to make some other suggestions? It's rather confusing the way you've wrote it, hence why no replies.

[Animala]

Nah, don't want front wheel drive again. I know there's an AWD version but they're a bit too......what's the word I'm looking for? not old, but I'd rather have a car that's at least a couple of years newer than mine (an 02 reg).

Nah not looking for other suggestions, I know I want one of them. I just don't know anyone that has any of them and was wondering how good they are for daily drivers and just in general.

For example I love the Evo but I remember hearing on Top Gear years ago they need to be serviced at ridiculously short intervals. Just after tips and that really, hope that clears things up

[300bhp/ton]

Animala said:

So I'm going to be getting my next car in February and I've done my research and know the figures, but now would like some first hand experience opinions please

The cars I'm interested in (that are in my budget) are as follows:

2004 Mitsubishi Evo 8 - 265bhp version

2006 Subaru Impreza WRX - 230bhp

2004 Subaru Impreza STi - 265bhp

Any year Nissan 350Z Coupe - any version

And the wildcard - 2000 Porsche 911 - 320bhp

All cars are manual and will be used for commuting 14 miles average every week day. They all do roughly the same MPG. I work at a main dealership and can get servicing and general maintenance done fairly cheap, so I'm really just after love and hate stories on each car that can push me more in the direction of one than the other.

At the moment the one I like the most is the Evo but I'd also love a V6/flat 6 rear wheel drive coupe. Also I put the power of each vehicle down because that's mainly how I tell them apart from all their variations.

What sort of budget and are you talking cash or finance?

What sort of running costs are you looking at?

And I think you need to think about what you want. Sorry to be blunt but your post really just seems a bit too "Top Trumps" to take it overly seriously.

[Animala]

300bhp/ton said:

What sort of budget and are you talking cash or finance?

What sort of running costs are you looking at?

And I think you need to think about what you want. Sorry to be blunt but your post really just seems a bit too "Top Trumps" to take it overly seriously.

I know those cars I've listed are in my budget so not a problem, will be cash with no finance or anything though. Running costs aren't worrying me. Like I said I know what MPG they do, I can get them serviced, maintained, repaired (if needed) etc, without great woe. But that service interval thing on the Evo might be annoying.

I guess yeah it kind of is a which is the best, top trumps kind of thing. So any horror stories about any of the models will be appreciated or likewise stories about how especially great one of them is.

This is really aimed at drivers of these models specifically, would have been best in Jap chat but the 911 put me off from putting it there =X

[300bhp/ton]

Animala said:

I know those cars I've listed are in my budget so not a problem

Are you sure? I honestly have no idea what money you are looking at, but I wouldn't have said all of the cars you've listed are the same cost to buy. Just seems a little odd an as though not for real.

Animala said:

will be cash with no finance or anything though.

That's great to be in that position, but seems odd in some ways. Some of the cars you've said about I'd have thought are some reasonable money to pay cash and your car history doesn't sort of hint at this.

Animala said:

Running costs aren't worrying me. Like I said I know what MPG they do, I can get them serviced, maintained, repaired (if needed) etc, without great woe.

What dealership do you work at and would you truly get such a good rate?

Animala said:

But that service interval thing on the Evo might be annoying.

Why, you've said you only do 14 miles a day. Even with the shortest service interval that'd only be 1 service a year in mileage terms. Something smells fishy here.

Animala said:

I guess yeah it kind of is a which is the best, top trumps kind of thing.

Right ok...

Animala said:

So any horror stories about any of the models will be appreciated or likewise stories about how especially great one of them is.

All cars have horror stories, best bet would be to try Google and hit a few owners forums.

Animala said:

Nah, don't want front wheel drive again.

The GTO is AWD.

Animala said:

I'd rather have a car that's at least a couple of years newer than mine (an 02 reg).

Yet you list a 2000 Porshce??? Again fishy....

Edited by 300bhp/ton on Sunday 12th August 19:14

[Dactub]

300bhp/ton said:

What sort of budget and are you talking cash or finance?

What sort of running costs are you looking at?

And I think you need to think about what you want. Sorry to be blunt but your post really just seems a bit too "Top Trumps" to take it overly seriously.

You can almost tell the direction of your posts before you read them. You seem a very knowledgable person but why do you always come across as a condescending prick. I'd go with the Evo op from what I've heard from friends who have owned a few of the cars listed.

[Dactub]

300bhp/ton said:

Yet you list a 2000 Porshce??? Again fishy....

Do you have any hobbies other than trying to pull apart peoples threads on the Internet ?.

[Dangermouse58]

The 911 is the classiest of those you listed, thats what I'd get. As another suggestion how about a nissan gtr?

[911p]

For daily driving the 996 is probably the best of the bunch - the Mk1 model which you've listed (Mk2 starts from 2002) is 300bhp though.

[Animala]

Dangermouse58 said:

The 911 is the classiest of those you listed, thats what I'd get. As another suggestion how about a nissan gtr?

Would LOVE a GTR but two things, my budget for the cost of the car is £13K and also, I don't fancy an Auto ;P

911p said:

For daily driving the 996 is probably the best of the bunch - the Mk1 model which you've listed (Mk2 starts from 2002) is 300bhp though.

I was just going on what was on auto trader, I don't know a great deal about Porsches, I just saw a sub 40K mile 911 for about £13K that was less than a grand for me to insure so thought why not ask?

[300bhp/ton]

Dactub said:

You can almost tell the direction of your posts before you read them. You seem a very knowledgable person but why do you always come across as a condescending prick. I'd go with the Evo op from what I've heard from friends who have owned a few of the cars listed.

Well I often ask as it can hugely vary the answer. In this instance it seems odd to be looking at the least powerful Evo's rather than the FQ's.

Even more so when the OP has said it's a Top Trumps kind of thing. This would also seem at odds when they are also then looking at a WRX and an STI. If it's about power and performance why would you look at the lower model?

But it's the 911 one that puzzled me slightly, with 320hp that isn't a base model or an early example (well they've said MY2000 anyhow). I'm a little hazy on what year had 320hp and wasn't an 'S' but I think it's the latter 996's, at least 01 onwards. But either way having a quick look in the classifieds you'd need £12-15k to give you a choice of 2000MY 911's. Whereas a 2006 WRX can be had from £5.5k.

This all seems a little odd.

Also if they were buying on finance I daresay it's harder to buy a 12 year 911 on PCP than it is to get a newer car that you'll likely find at a main dealership still.

So it's not anything about being conceited, just looking at what they've typed.


If they are genuine, then my advice to hit Google would still be my advice. I think they need to read up on the cars they've listed and figure out if they really are comparisons for their budget, then see which appeals the most.

[300bhp/ton]

Dactub said:

300bhp/ton said:

Yet you list a 2000 Porshce??? Again fishy....

Do you have any hobbies other than trying to pull apart peoples threads on the Internet ?.

So now your upset that I was actually correct?

[Animala]

300bhp/ton said:

Dactub said:

You can almost tell the direction of your posts before you read them. You seem a very knowledgable person but why do you always come across as a condescending prick. I'd go with the Evo op from what I've heard from friends who have owned a few of the cars listed.

Well I often ask as it can hugely vary the answer. In this instance it seems odd to be looking at the least powerful Evo's rather than the FQ's.

Even more so when the OP has said it's a Top Trumps kind of thing. This would also seem at odds when they are also then looking at a WRX and an STI. If it's about power and performance why would you look at the lower model?

But it's the 911 one that puzzled me slightly, with 320hp that isn't a base model or an early example (well they've said MY2000 anyhow). I'm a little hazy on what year had 320hp and wasn't an 'S' but I think it's the latter 996's, at least 01 onwards. But either way having a quick look in the classifieds you'd need £12-15k to give you a choice of 2000MY 911's. Whereas a 2006 WRX can be had from £5.5k.

This all seems a little odd.

Also if they were buying on finance I daresay it's harder to buy a 12 year 911 on PCP than it is to get a newer car that you'll likely find at a main dealership still.

So it's not anything about being conceited, just looking at what they've typed.


If they are genuine, then my advice to hit Google would still be my advice. I think they need to read up on the cars they've listed and figure out if they really are comparisons for their budget, then see which appeals the most.

It's funny, literally just came on here to get some opinions on some cars I like the looks of and in just a few posts this guy has basically said I can't afford these cars due to my car history, doubts I understand how things work at my own job, thinks I'm literally only ever going to do 14 miles on week days while I own it, thinks I don't know how to go on Google and find owners forums. I came here to get a more personal touch rather than look through every single slightly related thread on a website and lastly doesn't seem to understand the term "wild card".

Also I think it's "fishy" when someone looks way too much into, what I thought, was pretty straight forward question. Out of the cars I listed, who here owns/has owned any of them and has a particularly bad/good experience with them?

And btw, sorry, I didn't realise it was a crime to ask to about different variations of the same model. My bad.

[Dactub]

300bhp/ton said:

Well I often ask as it can hugely vary the answer. In this instance it seems odd to be looking at the least powerful Evo's rather than the FQ's.

Even more so when the OP has said it's a Top Trumps kind of thing. This would also seem at odds when they are also then looking at a WRX and an STI. If it's about power and performance why would you look at the lower model?

But it's the 911 one that puzzled me slightly, with 320hp that isn't a base model or an early example (well they've said MY2000 anyhow). I'm a little hazy on what year had 320hp and wasn't an 'S' but I think it's the latter 996's, at least 01 onwards. But either way having a quick look in the classifieds you'd need £12-15k to give you a choice of 2000MY 911's. Whereas a 2006 WRX can be had from £5.5k.

This all seems a little odd.

Also if they were buying on finance I daresay it's harder to buy a 12 year 911 on PCP than it is to get a newer car that you'll likely find at a main dealership still.

So it's not anything about being conceited, just looking at what they've typed.


If they are genuine, then my advice to hit Google would still be my advice. I think they need to read up on the cars they've listed and figure out if they really are comparisons for their budget, then see which appeals the most.

Sorry but I stick to what I said you come across as condescending, arrogant and trying to make people look silly seems like a few others agree on here reading past threads. Good luck op with your car the Evo would be the one for me I've drove a wr1 before my mate sold it to get the Evo and he prefers the 8.

[300bhp/ton]

Animala said:

It's funny, literally just came on here to get some opinions on some cars I like the looks of and in just a few posts this guy has basically said I can't afford these cars due to my car history, doubts I understand how things work at my own job, thinks I'm literally only ever going to do 14 miles on week days while I own it, thinks I don't know how to go on Google and find owners forums. I came here to get a more personal touch rather than look through every single slightly related thread on a website and lastly doesn't seem to understand the term "wild card".

Also I think it's "fishy" when someone looks way too much into, what I thought, was pretty straight forward question. Out of the cars I listed, who here owns/has owned any of them and has a particularly bad/good experience with them?

And btw, sorry, I didn't realise it was a crime to ask to about different variations of the same model. My bad.

Getting arsey when asked a few simple questions hardly reinforces the fact this is for real though.


So curious why are you considering £5K cars and £13k cars and no Evo FQ's, which would be within you budget with ease?


Out of the cars you've listed the 911 is the clear winner in the performance, driver and appearance stakes. It's also the least practical and likely to cost marginally more to run should something major break on it.


And out of interest how cheap is service and maintenance, will you be getting the parts in or getting work to supply them. If the latter this might not be so cheap with Porsche parts, might be worth considering.

[300bhp/ton]

Dactub said:

Sorry but I stick to what I said you come across as condescending, arrogant and trying to make people look silly seems like a few others agree on here reading past threads. Good luck op with your car the Evo would be the one for me I've drove a wr1 before my mate sold it to get the Evo and he prefers the 8.

Maybe that's just how things read. Doesn't mean that's the aim. But seriously you find nothing odd in a person comparing a £5000 WRX to a £13,000 911? Even more so when they claim they are only doing 5100 miles a year and then are worried about too much servicing on an Evo.

I truly hope they can afford it and end up with a nice car.

[Animala]

300bhp/ton said:

Dactub said:

Sorry but I stick to what I said you come across as condescending, arrogant and trying to make people look silly seems like a few others agree on here reading past threads. Good luck op with your car the Evo would be the one for me I've drove a wr1 before my mate sold it to get the Evo and he prefers the 8.

Maybe that's just how things read. Doesn't mean that's the aim. But seriously you find nothing odd in a person comparing a £5000 WRX to a £13,000 911? Even more so when they claim they are only doing 5100 miles a year and then are worried about too much servicing on an Evo.

I truly hope they can afford it and end up with a nice car.

The Evo needs servicing every 4,500 miles, just found out, maybe someone can verify that? That's what I was concerned about. And like I said before, I don't just drive to and from work. I tend to go out and have a life. This may be an alien concept to someone who has nothing better to do on a Sunday night than pick apart someones perfectly innocent question and try and make it seem like some massive conspiracy.

Like I said, the 911 was a wildcard and if you don't have any useful/helpful insight into any of the cars listed then please kindly fk off some place else and try and pick apart someone else's thread.

Thanks =)

[Embryonic]

300bhp/ton said:

Loads and loads... and loads more

Jesus Christ, I'm sure you mean well but for fk's sake, do you ever give it a rest?

[Dactub]

300bhp/ton said:

Maybe that's just how things read. Doesn't mean that's the aim. But seriously you find nothing odd in a person comparing a £5000 WRX to a £13,000 911? Even more so when they claim they are only doing 5100 miles a year and then are worried about too much servicing on an Evo.

I truly hope they can afford it and end up with a nice car.

And there you go a again "I truly hope they can afford it". maybe you don't know your doing it but every post is condescending and quite creepy how you over analyzing people.