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LordGrover
18,592 posts
81 months
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doogz said: marshall100 said: When the s  tus went in for a service the other day I had a quick butchers at the 86 that was in the showroom. Nice enough looking, not massive, but why would you buy one when you could get the same s ts n giggles from a used Nissan 350z? At a guess, because the 350 is heavier, thirstier, older, bigger, doesn't handle as well, and will cost more to insure and tax?  All true. I have a zed and am waiting for an 86. Doesn't mean the zed is any lesser the car though - I love it but it's time for a change.
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Pixelpeep
821 posts
11 months
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ewenm said: Pixelpeep said: 0-60 in the late 7's ? 200hp? looking like that?!
£1200 worth of Saxo VTS next to you at the lights and you'll be sliding down the headed leather avoiding eye contact pretty quick! Are many teenagers going to be driving the GT86/BRZ? Anyone else surely doesn't give a damn about that sort of thing. I don't think thats the case at all.. When purchasing a performance car i would suspect performance would come up at least once in conversation. I actually love the styling of both, its just they 'look' faster than they are - and to me, that's an automotive no-no
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otolith
19,345 posts
73 months
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vintageracer01 said: They started with a nice idea of having a proper RWD chassis... But why the h.ll is the body design sooooooooo extremely awful and old looking... What a missed chance here. This was a much nicer and more modern design:  Look at the front overhang on that! I think the front engine - rear drive layout gives proportions which look old fashioned to some. Modern coupes are front drive and look like shoes.
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ewenm
24,428 posts
114 months
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Pixelpeep said: I don't think thats the case at all..
When purchasing a performance car i would suspect performance would come up at least once in conversation.
I actually love the styling of both, its just they 'look' faster than they are - and to me, that's an automotive no-no There's far more to performance than 0-60 times though, and you specifically mentioned the traffic-light grand prix which IME is the territory of teenagers (and those who wish they were still teenagers).
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otolith
19,345 posts
73 months
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Pixelpeep said: I actually love the styling of both, its just they 'look' faster than they are - and to me, that's an automotive no-no Ah, so they should have made it look a bit s t?
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dtrump
1,275 posts
60 months
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My dads old car from back in the early 1990s was big, fat, heavy, s t and a rover This is lighter, has more power and is slower Brilliant edit: the rover of course hated corners of any kind
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otolith
19,345 posts
73 months
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LordGrover said: doogz said: marshall100 said: When the s tus went in for a service the other day I had a quick butchers at the 86 that was in the showroom. Nice enough looking, not massive, but why would you buy one when you could get the same s ts n giggles from a used Nissan 350z? At a guess, because the 350 is heavier, thirstier, older, bigger, doesn't handle as well, and will cost more to insure and tax? All true. I have a zed and am waiting for an 86. Doesn't mean the zed is any lesser the car though - I love it but it's time for a change. We have a Z, and I agree.
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BBS-LM
3,486 posts
93 months
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I think this first sentence explains the full story, and why I just did not read anymore. "It's the comparison test we've all been waiting for and yet realise, deep down, is ultimately totally pointless" No s t.
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Pixelpeep
821 posts
11 months
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ewenm said: Pixelpeep said: I don't think thats the case at all..
When purchasing a performance car i would suspect performance would come up at least once in conversation.
I actually love the styling of both, its just they 'look' faster than they are - and to me, that's an automotive no-no There's far more to performance than 0-60 times though, and you specifically mentioned the traffic-light grand prix which IME is the territory of teenagers (and those who wish they were still teenagers). I get what your saying, its about the experience as a whole...and my opinion is highly subjective. just, for me, if the car was a bit more brutal power wise, it would be the perfect package. I am sure i am not alone! 
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Pixelpeep
821 posts
11 months
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otolith said: Pixelpeep said: I actually love the styling of both, its just they 'look' faster than they are - and to me, that's an automotive no-no Ah, so they should have made it look a bit s t? Noo... increased the HP to suit.
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DanDC5
6,911 posts
36 months
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Fittster
14,918 posts
82 months
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Pixelpeep said: I actually love the styling of both, its just they 'look' faster than they are - and to me, that's an automotive no-no Lotus Elise always been a no-no to you?
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doogz
18,667 posts
56 months
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LordGrover said: All true. I have a zed and am waiting for an 86. Doesn't mean the zed is any lesser the car though - I love it but it's time for a change. I had one for a week a few months ago when my Impreza was in the garage, a Fairlady Z to be precise, and it was a cracking car. But it's not really the same thing, and IMO, comparing new cars with old cars is a bit silly.
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russy01
2,072 posts
50 months
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katulu said: I wonder how long it will be until either some insane tuner, or subaru themselves fits the subie with a turbo and AWD? Then, I will be quite interested... Surely that will pretty much be the latest shape imprezza then. I'd rather see a RWD supercharged gt86.
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Pixelpeep
821 posts
11 months
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Fittster said: Pixelpeep said: I actually love the styling of both, its just they 'look' faster than they are - and to me, that's an automotive no-no Lotus Elise always been a no-no to you? Yes, but for different reasons. I don't think my back could cope with getting in and out of the thing
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300bhp/ton
26,483 posts
59 months
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otolith said: Surely if you live in the states and you are into drag racing you wouldn't be buying one of these even if it were a bit quicker. I bet they're pretty crap at off-roading too  Reckon you might be surprised. Every road test in the states will likely mention or test 1/4 mile. Check out the BRZ Motor Trend test in YouTube. Also drag racing is just so accessible that all sorts of cars are used the "import" scene is pretty big in America.
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Killboy
620 posts
71 months
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I'm sure these things are going to get some other engine configurations. I'm actually pretty interested in them, although I'll be honest the power/performance figures are a little on the low side. If this comes out with a little bit of an upgrade, I will make some space for it outside my place.
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jamespink
402 posts
73 months
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braddo
2,980 posts
57 months
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otolith said: Modern coupes are front drive and look like shoes. Or in the case of the Scirocco, a cane toad.... [/shudder] 
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doogz
18,667 posts
56 months
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jamespink said: What does a sub 20MPG 4WD estate have to do with a small and light RWD sports coupe?
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